* Posts by h4rm0ny

4617 posts • joined 26 Jul 2008

Ten years in the clink, file-sharing monsters! (If UK govt gets its way)


>>"But isn't that only because of the persistant fear and scaremongering that exists now thanks to the ilk of the Daily Mail, et al."

I wouldn't have thought so. Sex with a prepubescent child is intrinsically damaging to that child and equally is inescapably taking advantage of a child through one's greater power over them. It is not arguable that sex with a child isn't both harmful to the child and lacking in even the pretence of consent. It is inherently wrong. Anyone who was a good person and found themself sexually attracted to children is going to suffer distress about their urges. Hence why any good person who finds themself suffering from this would want and need help.

>>"Do you tell everyone about your sexual attractions? Do you tell everyone that you're a heterophile? Homophile? Podophile? Zoophile? Whatever attraction floats your boat? No, probably not."

I tell anyone who asks that I'm heterosexual because I am. However, having seen the distress homosexual people have suffered historically (and may still do today with their families), I can see how having to keep a sexual attraction, even one that is harmless like homosexuality, can cause immense distress for the person who has to live the lie.

>>"You mean child molestation? By that logic, what's stopping you, a person with an attraction, from raping every person that you meet?"

Well I have no penis, so I guess lack of the necessary equipment for a start. But you're badly failing to comprehend what is being said to you which is that sexual attraction can lead to horrific outcomes. Which it can. I didn't say that someone who is a paedophile necessarily will - that part was covered by the suffering in my first part. But I do go on to say that unaddressed paedophilia is a risk. I would think a lifetime of any unfulfilled sexual desire would have a high chance of leading someone towards giving in at some point. What's up for debate in that? So again, the OP wasn't unreasonable in saying they need help. You're being unreasonable in contesting that.

>>"For the purpose of Devil's Advocate though. [...]"

No. You're arguing against points I didn't make through your own inability to understand. Additionally, this is a massive distraction from what the article is actually about. What is happening here is plain: you have some particular issues with paedophilia and having seen an off-hand reference to it in someone's post are now going into some death spiral of arguing about it for your own reasons. I'm satisfied that the points I made are clear and reasonably uncontroversial to any bystander so I decline to derail this forum discussion any further for the sake of your issues. I am done on this.


>>[citation needed]

You really need a citation that if a generally good person found themselves attracted to children they wouldn't feel distressed about that? Or that keeping your sexual attractions secret from everyone you know wouldn't lead to suffering? You genuinely question whether a sexual attraction to prepubescent children can lead to horrible outcomes?

You're a moron.


Re: So disproportionate

>>Someone on TorrentFreak's comments posted this link: http://www.thelawpages.com/court-cases/maximums.php to a list of the current maximum sentences.

Okay. Let's examine this:

>>Walk into Piccadilly Circus with an AK-47 - 7 years.

Carrying a firearm. Not shooting it, not killing anyone, not murdering anyone... just carrying it unauthorized in a public place. Our prisons are pretty over-crowded anyway, isn't seven years fine for this? Is carrying a firearm without actually attempting to use it or evidence of planned murder (both of which could bump it up to Life) inherently worse than causing millions of pounds of lost profit through software piracy (real example of a multi-year sentence).

I mean you're example is really incredibly stupid. Simply 'possessing or distributing a prohibited weapon' carries a maximum of 10 years and a minimum of 5 years whilst 'Possession of Firearm with Criminal Intent' carries a maximum of Life. You're contriving a situation in which someone legally owns an AK-47 in this country and then without any criminal intent carries it into a busy public place just so that you can try to show the penalty is 'only' seven years.

You are, quite plainly, being dishonest in your attempt to misrepresent proportionality here.

>>Have sex with your 12-year-old daughter - 7 years.

There's a boatload of crimes that would be committed here, not least of which: "Sexual intercourse with girl under 13" - which can carry a life sentence and rape, which can also carry a life sentence.

You've skipped over these very deliberately in your list and then gone down to find attempted versions of the crime. So yes, if a person tried to seduce a twelve year old girl, they might get away with seven years. But if they have sex with her complicitly or uncomplicitly, those crimes carry life sentence maximums.

Again, you're misrepresenting things deliberately. You're lying, in fact.

>>Download some films off the internet - 10 years.

False. You'd get a fine. We've never had a 10 year sentence for this in this country. Even case of someone trading fifty million in pirated software as a commercial business only got seven, iirc.

If you want to lie to rile people up and get them angry about something that isn't true, your post is going about it in the perfect way. If you want to actually deal with accuracy and fair argument, you've badly lost your way.


Re: In other news...

>>A few moments of research revealed that... "All ORG materials, unless otherwise specified, are published under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license."

That's ORG materials. ORG members are also private people with careers and contracts. I would not be surprised if more than one of them worked in software and depended on copyright law for their income.

>>"Perhaps next time one should do some research before one spouts?"

Given that you didn't actually answer the GP's question...


>>>>Paedophiles need _help_


I guess because it's a sickness and left unaddressed leads to suffering and potentially horrific consequences.


Re: His (her) Master's Voice

>>"Frankly Oriowski I wish you would piss off."

And I am very glad he's here as he actually backs up his articles. I can also spell his name!

Whenever Orlowski posts in the comments on El Reg., I always picture him as George Bailey in It's a Wonderful Life: standing in front of the mob when there's a run on the bank desperately trying to explain how the system works as people keep shouting for their money.

Beer for our resident IT masochist.


Re: You COULD NOT...

>>"If you really wanted to harmonise the sentencing guidelines then you could lower the penalty for the physical crime."

Yes, you could resolve it either way. But in the case of someone who was pulling down £400,000 from advertising on the back of other people's work and funnelling that money secretly via international banks to hidden accounts in South America (not a hypothetical example but one of the rare cases of someone in the UK getting a mult-year prison sentence for this kind of stuff), should it be lowered? Frequently cases like this are not prosecuted simply because the complexities in the law have made it difficult to proceed. This clarifies and rationalizes the law and that's a good thing. If you want to argue that industrial-scale fraud should have its penalties lowered to inline with what some home torrenter might get (a fine), then that's going to need some support.

>>"It is perfectly reasonable to use stronger laws (fraud etc) to prosecute the more serious cases."

Discretionary sentencing is a valuable tool in the British legal system. Without it you get an inability of judges to be lenient. and cases being thrown out because the prosecution picked the wrong gradient of the crime. E.g. dangerous driving can be anything from a fine to two years in prison. And if you kill someone it can go up to fourteen years. What happens if the prosecution pick the variant of the crime and don't meet the necessary burden of proof for the ten year dangerous driving law, but would have met it for the eight? And it leads to US-style plea bargaining.

Discretionary sentencing is, if not vital, certainly very important.

>>Sorry. I fundamentally disagree that you could be locked up for 10 years for sharing an ISO.

You wont be. The article has misled you. If you're talking about sharing some popular movie, you'll get a fine, same as you always would. This is about commercial-scale piracy which your example certainly doesn't meet the criteria of.

>>And I disagree just as strongly with the way that policy was created.

Public consultation followed by vote by elected MPs? What would be your preferred method of enacting and removing laws?


>>"So, this is legislation for a problem that has already been solved?"

No, because previously the same crime was handled differently depending on whether it took place online or offline. This rationalizes the law on the subject so that there is no double-standard.


Re: Disproportionate

If someone slapped or punched me, that would be assault and a "crime against the person" as you call it. Would that inherently demand a harsher sentence than if I'd had spent two years working on a computer game and then that same person took it from me and shared it online costing me tens, maybe hundreds of thousands of pounds and wasting two years of my life? Because that's what you've just argued. And then you've declared that only "a cretin" would think otherwise.

You should review what you've written here. You've allowed this (admittedly very biased and one-sided article) to lead you into thinking this is about ten years for occasionally downloading movies. It isn't.


Re: So if you wrote a book...

Bullshit. If you spent two years of your life working on something, e.g. a computer game, and then someone took it for free and shared it to the world free, you'd be livid. You'd want them fined to get recompense for the lost sales and I'd lay pretty good odds that you'd be angry enough to want them to go to prison as punishment.


>>"Piracy hurts only big fish in distribution, don't even try to give me the shit that it hurts artists. Artists get peanuts from MAFIAA for their work"

It hurts everyone involved in the music and movie industries. If you work in the movie industry - whether you're a caterer, a carpenter or a movie star, you're hired on the basis of expected profits and paid by investors who look at returns on previous films. Anything that reduces profits on a film impacts investment in future films. Which knocks on all the way through the system.


Re: Actually, no

Thanks banks weren't lying (generally, that we know of). The ratings agencies, e.g. Standards and Poor, were lying. They rated packages as AAA when they knew they were no such thing. And the reason for that is almost undoubtedly that the banks wanted them to. So in fact, there was wilful deception involved. The film The Big Short which came out recently is worth watching on the subject.


Re: Actually, no

>>"It's not a persecution complex or paranoia if they actually are out to get you."

That's the point, they're not. You're not going to get ten years for torrenting a few current movies. This whole article is click-bait and I'll happily debate the author on it and tear their argument apart piece by piece if they'd like to engage me on it.

>>"On a related note; what's the penalty for defrauding billions with sub-prime mortgages and causing a global depression? Yeah, I fucking thought so."

If you're now using Goldman-Sachs et al as a way of making yourself look moral, you need to raise your standards. A lot.


Re: His (her) Master's Voice

>>"If i steal a warehouse of cd's and dvd's they're gone, i nicked em and made a profit selling em. I have deprived someone of real things. If I copy a mates mp3 via bluetooth on my device, no one has lost out."

Both are methods of depriving the content producer of payment for their product. Unless for some incalculable reason you think the primary cost of producing a movie or album is the plastic that goes into the DVD, then it really makes no difference how you take it without paying for it. This is a fact.

>>"I wouldn't have bought it anyway, so no loss of sale."

This is you deciding unilaterally the worth of someone's work and depriving them of a say in it. You declare it's not worth £10 but is worth £0, so it's therefore okay for you to take it for £0. Trade depends on both parties being able to negotiate on a price. If the seller prices it too highly, you choose not to buy. If you find it worth the price they demand, you do choose to. Taking it at a price that the seller does not agree to is theft, even if (especially if) that price is £0. The customer always wants everything cheaper, that's why they don't get to set the prices of it unilaterally.

Also, utterly absurd to argue from a position that piracy doesn't cost sales. Whilst the comments sections of IT news sites seem to be filled with people who pirate nothing that they would ever buy, the real world contains people I know who absolutely use piracy as an alternative to buying, renting or cinema.

And before I get the utterly predictable retort that this doesn't mean that every pirated good is a lost sale, let me point out I haven't made such an argument.

All of the above is fairly straightforward logical progression from supportable premises. You're trying to justify piracy and doing a piss-poor job of it.

>>"And now they wanna lock me up for 10 years."

No, the article is misleading you. They want to slap a fine on you and say "don't do it again." Unless you happen to be engaging in large-scale software piracy for profit which is more what this is about despite the frothing rant that has just attempted to pass itself off as journalism without so much as pretending to consider the opposing view.


Re: You COULD NOT...

>>"Just checked - you get less for Manslaughter with anything other than 'Low Provocation'..."

And here come the silly comparisons. Though it's usually driving offences that are preferred, car analogies and all.

Presumably everyone outraged by this also thinks that when an ISP promises "up to 100Mbps" that's what they'll get. Or that because you can get up to two years for dangerous driving, you'll get two years for accidentally going through a red light.

This is about harmonizing offline and online penalties so that someone producing knock-off DVDs gets treated the same as someone transferring ISOs online. It's not about upping the penalties.

Let's look at actual prosecutions resulting in multi-year sentences in the UK. To recall two, we had a guy who traded in $20million of pirated software and made a very handsome profit on that. He got seven years, iirc. The other multi-year sentence I can recall was someone running a piracy site and he was channelling about £50,000 advertising revenue per month through Latvian banks to South American-registered companies. I don't recall how long that person got, but it was less than ten years.

If you're someone at home distributing some movies via BitTorrent, you're not going to get a decade inside, you're going to get a fine, in all but the most exceptional cases.

Discretion in sentencing is a thing and exists for a very good reason. Meanwhile El Reg. and Ars Technica go into a feeding frenzy of click-bait profits whilst freetards go into moral outrage and complain about comparisons to manslaughter. Well home torrenters aren't going to be sentenced the same way as people committing manslaughter and if you throw out all historical evidence from this country to the contrary, and refuse to acknowledge that maximum sentences are not the be all and end all of how you assess a law, then you're wilfully [b]trying[/b] to be outraged because you enjoy it.

Microsoft, Google bury hatchet – surprisingly, not in each other


Re: Following up on the patent truce story

Spurious claims by who? As someone replied to your previous post on this, MS were making lots of money from the patents that Android infringed on. It's free money to them.

Also, isn't this rather shoe-horned into this topic?

European Union set to release anti-competition hounds on Google


Thank goodness this is nearly over.

We'll have left the EU soon and then we can negotiate with international corporations as a small independent nation rather than a large, powerful trading block. I'll be glad of the extra protection that Theresa May and David Cameron give us once their hands are no longer tied.

Furious customers tear into 123-reg after firm's mass deletion woes


I can't believe this.

I accept that the company has actually issued these statements and I accept that El Reg is reporting it. But I honestly find it no easier to believe than if I saw a cow begin to levitate in front of me.

A company could just not be this incompetent. It just doesn't compute in my brain.

Idiot millennials are saving credit card PINs on their mobile phones


And pre-Millienials were tech savants?

Can we ditch honing in on "Millenials"? I'm sick of every bandwagon news site suddenly starting to throw the word around every other article as if it has some actual significance. If anything, I would have thought "Millenials" probably have a higher average IT knowledge than older generations.

Maybe they just don't care because there aren't any well-paying jobs and there's nothing IN their bank-accounts except ten grand of student debt, did you think of that?

Grumpy icon for grumpy post ----------->

EDIT: And yes, I read the article. If they're five percentage points higher than the previous generation likely to store the numbers in their phone, I suspect that's more to do with smartphone ownership and use of online banking than tech expertise.

How to not get pwned on Windows: Don't run any virtual machines, open any web pages, Office docs, hyperlinks ...


Re: Sad pretty much not being able to use the PC

>>"Yet somehow your phone and tablet can be on the Internet wherever you go all day long with nary a twitch. It's almost as if there were a specific software vendor involved in all of this PC malware mess."

I'd lay good money that you would also be critical of the Windows Store. In fact, given that this is Mikel, long-time poster on El Reg. noted for virulent anti-Microsoft posts, I'd say it's almost a certainty you've been against it. Yet you compare Windows (open and free to install what you want) to locked down systems like iPads and Windows RT. If you can't see the relevant distinction between an iPad and a Windows OS machine is not vendor but user privileges, you're wilfully blind.

Oh, and you should check out Android sometime (the most popular OS used for phones) which even at one's most charitable could not be described as having "nary a twitch" when it comes to security.


Re: How not to get pwned on Windows...

>>"Security bugs are a fact of life in all software - the bigger the code base, the more you can expect. Saying "my OS is less likely to get pwned than your OS" is just stupid."

It's not stupid. There are actual variations in security flaws between different OSs. Back in pre-Vista era, Windows was inherently less secure than GNU/Linux. That's no longer true. Windows is probably slightly more secure than GNU/Linux these days. And maybe that will change again over time - who knows. But it's not right to reject comparisons between OSs. It's useful. If nothing else, it keeps different vendors trying hard to compete in the area of closing down vulnerabilities.

>>"We all know that the "many eyes" theory spouted by the OSS hardliners is complete bullshit."

It's not "complete bullshit". It's a valid argument that Open Source benefits from people being able to inspect the source and find flaws. The problem is that the more complex the project, the more specialized you have to be to notice flaws. I can find a flaw in the MySQL source code. I can't find one in Firefox source - I simply wouldn't know where to start with their code base. But that doesn't mean that other people can't or that it's "bullshit".

The biggest security advantage of Open Source, though, is not guarding against accidental flaws, but against deliberate ones. It lets you examine the source for deliberate backdoors by the vendor. That has a lot of value, imo.

Flying Spaghetti Monster is not God, rules mortal judge


Re: Pastafarianism is under attack!

What's the feminine form of Pope. Is it Popess? Or Popette? I quite fancy being a Popette.

Hail Eris! She what done it all!


Re: Excellent

All I know about Jehovah's Witnesses is that the one I worked with never mentioned his religion in the entire time I worked with him (I found out from someone else) and he was one of the nicest and most helpful people I worked with, going out of his way to help and patiently dealing with some extremely trying situations.

I don't know how much of that was because of his faith, but I can conclude that one shouldn't judge people's character by their religion.


Re: Excellent

>>"So which religion isn't based on a work of fiction?"

In Discordianism, you actually have to be fictional to attain the higher levels of sainthood. The reasoning is that fictional people are more able to approximate the perfection needed to be a greater saint. If you're a real human being (and not a cabbage or something) the best you can get is level one saint, even if you're Emperor Norton or similar.

We make no distinction fnord between reality and fiction because effect is what matters and one can be equally inspired by Captain Yossarian as by a real person.

Personally, I'm more concerned in this case as to why the prisoner is being denied books of any kind. Is knowledge and learning withheld in US prisons unless you can justify it as part of your religion? Fiction or otherwise, let them have their books. Hail Eris!

Cinema boss gives up making kids turn off phones: 'That's not how they live their life'


EMPs are fiddly to create and require explosives to properly generate a pulse which is both noisy and requires a fairly unwieldy length of coil that you'd have to lug around and into the cinema.

Bullets are superior in every way.

Line by line, how the US anti-encryption bill will kill our privacy, security


Re: Unwanted consequences

US Intelligence has previously been known to pass on Airbus's confidential information on big deals to Boeing. This is known in the EU. So turnabout is fairplay, I guess. Even if it's self-inflicted on the US part.


Re: The government [of USA] can lead by example...

>>"Or perhaps it's simpler: Feinstein, Burr, et al are insane."

Simpler than that. They're interests just don't align with the publics. Nor has a farmer's interests ever truly aligned with the chickens. They might both want to keep the fox out, but the farmer still wants to keep the chickens in.

GCHQ is having problems meeting Osborne's 2020 recruitment target


Re: Ethics

>>"everyone who posts on this forum is already on a watchlist"

Good. When everyone is on a watchlist, a watchlist is meaningless.

Not Bitcoin, but close: Red Hat and Microsoft bite into blockchain tech


Re: tracking ownership of digital products

>>"Have you ever read the EULA for a piece of digital software?"

Silly question. No-one has. Have you ever read the "EULA" for a piece of digital music, say an mp3 purchased from Amazon? I have. I own that MP3. The file includes (usually) metadata from my purchase identifying me as the owner as well in case I distribute it. If you don't understand the difference between ownership of copyright and ownership of a product, then you must go through life very confused. For example, whenever someone says they bought a car and it blows your mind that they think of it that way even though they don't have ownership of the patents needed to produce it.

>>"I suggest you learn more about digital copyrights and ownership, rather than down voting the people who tell you how it is in the real world."

Yes, I have multiple accounts and all those downvotes are just me logging in and out of the Register just to downvote the response to me.



Re: tracking ownership of digital products

>>"The way our society works, the "ownership" of the digital product is with the artist or their agent. As an end-user, at best what you have is ownership of a limited right-to-use."

You can own a product. You can own copyright on something. These are different things. If I own a car, I own it. Even though I don't own the patents that would allow me to manufacture copies. If I own a book, I own it. Even though I don't own the copyrights that would allow me to print copies. And I own a number of digital products. Even though I don't own the copyrights that would allow me to distribute copies. Again, there is nothing inherent to a product being digital that requires the model to be different. So hopefully my question can be answered rather than just have people pontificating on their views on copyright. Especially when even in your own post you concede that what I say is correct.

>>"Airlines could make airline tickets transferrable. They choose not to for the same reason."

Yes. And they did that when you had paper tickets as well. I own several products that I am free to sell on if I wish. So what I am interested in is whether this technology can be used to track ownership. It's a pretty simple question asked genuinely by someone interested in this technology for this purpose.

>>"Yes, such rights could be transferrable. This doesn't require a blockchain: it just requires that the real owners are happy to have transferrable rights, and any way to record that."

This is incorrect and why I am asking my question. With a digital product, reproduction is trivial. If we want to sell a digital product under the same model as a physical product, we need two further things to do that well. The first is to be able to prove legitimate ownership in a scenario where there could be two instances of the same thing (unlike physical goods where if B gains, A loses by an equal amount); and second is for a third party to be able to follow it in order to enforce copyright law. It seems to me that this technology could meet both of those needs very effectively, but I'm hoping that someone who knows about this will reply to me rather than a couple of soap-boxing freetards who conflate ownership of copyright (creation and distribution rights) with ownership of a product.


Re: tracking ownership of digital products

Nothing inherent to digital products requires that the right to use be non-transferrable. So yes, you can own digital products. Nor that they be "domestic personal use only". Just like you can own a paper book, you can own an ebook. In neither case does copyright allow you to distribute copies of it.

So, to get back to my question...



This seems to be a generalized approach to tracking ownership of digital assets. Could it be used for tracking ownership of digital products such as movies, music, ebooks, etc? That would make it more viable to resell digital products which is an unsatisfactory area right now.

Just how close are Obama and Google? You won’t believe the answer


Re: Downvotes?

All the way through reading this article, I kept having Human Leagues' "Don't You Want Me Baby" running through my mind. Something about "I put you where you are... And I can put you back down too."

Microsoft lures top Linux exec from Oracle to Redmond


Re: And as a side-note ...

>>"And I'm sorry for genius Dave, but like many, he too confused the forest with the trees when it comes to understanding the UNIX model."

How so? Back that up.


Re: For shame!

I think you mean Stallman. He's the one that - for better or worse - has always been self-consistent in his principles and doesn't waver.


Re: They have hired top Linux people before

>>"Windows server hell"

See, I could accept an argument that MS's GNU/Linux involvement is a rear-guard action and wont see competitive support. I don't think that's true, but I could see it as a supportable argument. But then you go off on one about "Windows server Hell". There might be people who feel that way if they're a GNU/Linux shop and they have one odd Windows server needed for some piece of critical software and they don't really know how to maintain it or have processes to manage it. An odd inconsistency in your processes is always a PITA. But Windows as an OS is pretty solid. And it has a lot of very good enterprise tools to manage it. So I conclude that you don't know what you're talking about.

Tracy Emin dons funeral shroud, marries stone


Hand fasting.

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Re: It wasn't me

Doesn't your name mean "stone stone". Your parents had a sense of humour. :)

William Hague: Brussels attacks mean we must destroy crypto ASAP


>>"Mr Hague should go back to delivering barrels of beer in his beloved Yorkshire."

We don't want him back. You keep him.


Hague was the one that led the case for British bombing of Libya to try and sponsor their foreign-backed "popular uprising" (that popular uprising that involved importing troops from Qatar and foreign Special Forces). Libya is now exporting terrorism around the world. Whilst terrorist bombings like we've recently seen aren't a right response to our involvement, they are in significant part a response nonetheless. First Hague wants us to get involved for the sake of British oil interests, then Hague wants us to give up all privacy to the government to deal with the fallout.

No matter that the bombings are terrible, I remain more afraid of the government than I do the terrorists.

Come on kids, let's go play in the abandoned nuclear power station



That was interesting. Do you have a blog or anywhere you write stuff like this? If so, I'd certainly be interested in that as well.

Paris Hilton

Re: Steel Fuel Tubes

I wonder how many people who don't understand MSR either modded up your comment just because it said that we (the British) know more about MSR than you do (the USA).

More than one, I suspect. ;)

Brits shun nightclubs and CD-ROMs for lemons, coffee and woman’s leggings


That's just the marketing and justification. I know at least one person who uses them just because they're cheaper so they can have more.

And I think some others use them because it lets them pretend they're healthy whilst still getting their nicotine fix.

State should run power firm spam database, says... competition watchdog


Re: Oh for crying out loud

There's only one form of competition regulation I'd like to see out of these people, and that's to regulate wind power so that it isn't massively subsidised by my purchase of electricity from other sources. If this body is so keen on competition, let's have some.

(N.b. to carbon fanatics - I'm pro nuclear).

Microsoft has made SQL Server for Linux. Repeat, Microsoft has made SQL Server 2016 for Linux


Re: I'm sure some will recall...

>>"...when Microsoft came up with it's own version of Java. It was like an attempt to hijack the standards and make everyone do things the Microsoft way and make Java theirs by force."

Are you referring to the very nice C#? Or are you mixing up Microsoft with Google because it's Google's I-Can't-Believe-It's-Not-Java language on Android that seems to really fit what you're describing. ;)


Out of interest, where do you find Postgres starts to creak on large data sets? I find Postgres excellent but have never used it on very large-scale datasets so curious about your experience.

Hacker 'Guccifer' extradited to US


Regardless of conditions, he is being taken to a place where his family and friends can no longer visit him. He is being separated from people he shares his language and culture with. Those by themselves are a devastating punishment. Especially when enduring life in prison which is a major hardship.

And US prisons are not exactly comfortable B&Bs.

Forget data thieves, data sabotage will be your next IT nightmare


Re: Not a new problem

Depends. Once you have a criminal record - no matter how irrelevant or what the circumstances - you are effectively barred from using any talents more sophisticated than picking litter or working on an assembly line.

How exactly do you rein in a wildly powerful AI before it enslaves us all?


Re: Let's just hope AI's will be smarter than these researchers

>>"That's knowledge, not intelligence"

No, it's intelligence. The OP is quite right. Firstly, knowledge is part of intelligence. Secondly, decision making also takes place outside of the human brain in books and other repositories. When a book details advice, case studies, accumulated best practices, instructions... Then human intelligence is taking place outside the organic brain. It's not just "knowledge".

Apple fires legal salvo at FBI for using All Writs law in iPhone brouhaha


Re: Completely pointless anyway

I suspect they figured this would be a high-profile incident - mad gunman, etc. - that they'd get a lot of angry public support on which would put Apple on the back-foot. "Apple helps vicious killer!" sort of thing. Unfortunately for the FBI, it's not having that effect. Well, it appears to have worked on Donald Trump but apart from him I mean...

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