* Posts by bazza

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LightSquared screams 'conspiracy' over leaky test results

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@Tom 35

"They should have stayed "reserved for satellite communications"

Wouldn't have helped. The satcom phone itself is also a transmitter operating in the very same band. It has to be, unless you want a one way conversation... And guess where the satcom phone would be? Right next to the GPS receiver that the owner also has.

GPS receivers aren't fussy - they'll quite happily get jammed by any adjacent interference, whether its coming from a satcom phone or a LightSquared base station. Had that old satcom service ever have become popular we would have seen this problem years ago I reckon.

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Ice Cream Sandwich

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True purpose?

"Nailed on Google search Widget"

Nothing demonstrates Google's revenue stream more clearly. You don't use that widget, Google don't make money.

Not that there's any difference between Google and MS and Apple. Except Apple will take $hundreds of you first and then extract advertising revenue from your data.

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US Martian nuke-truck launches without a hitch, but...

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I think that Windriver's VxWorks RTOS has more or less captured the entire Martian market too.

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Huge mob swarms phone launch – but it's a BLACKBERRY

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Interesting points

You raise two interesting points which phone manufacturers (Apple in particular) should learn if they know what's good for them.

Firstly, the killer app for a mobile is still communications. If a smartphone doesn't do messaging and voice calls effectively then it's market potential is limited.

Secondly, "non-western countries" arguably amounts to several billion people, whereas "western countries" perhaps does not. So phones meeting the needs of the majority have greater market potential than those that don't.

So does that mean that Blackberry have actually got it right from a worldwide marketing point of view? Despite their outage a few weeks back they remain the benchmark against which others are measured when it comes to messaging.

Have Apple, by focusing on the apparent needs of a comparatively few app crazed incommunicative Westerners missed out on the wider world wide market where battery life, voice and messaging are the prime selling points? The reported problems with battery life and iCloud bugs don't exactly commend iPhones to those who can't charge up every day / mealtime / hour (as the trend would appear to be) and want to call or text their mates.

Will Android manage to appeal in these emerging smartphone markets? Clearly yes because local manufacturers can tailor it for local non-google services (almost certainly not what Google intended) for local people, as has happened in China. But that results in more Android fragmentation.

Time will tell I guess. If Indonesians are heading towards being Crackberry Addicts that could indicate that Apple and Android are reaching the limits of their world wide market potential. Given RIM's low share price, does that make their stock worth a punt?

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Oracle says HP is paying Intel to prop up Itanium

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@asdf; That's a little harsh...

"the money losing Itanium which are pure garbage."

Well, it depends on your point of view. They do boot and run, and as Turing taught us that is good enough to do anything. And I'm sure there are some workloads that are well suited to their deeply unfashionable instruction set. The philosophy that instruction pipelining and parallel execution should be under the control of the compiler instead of the processor is fine. It means that you need fewer transistors on a chip to achieve a set level of performance *provided* you get the compiler right. That is the part Intel got wrong, at least initially.

It doesn't bode well for Intel. So far their only attempt at replacing the creaking x86 has been unsuccessful. Now that the world has discovered the benefits of low power the need for Intel to get rid of x86 is paramount, but they almost dare not try. X86 is really going to struggle to be as efficient as ARM, and Intel need to change ISA to properly compete. There's an even chance they will be forced to change to ARM...

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Not so fast: Italian boffins say neutrinos not faster than light

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Grand Theory of Super-Luminal Neutrinos

Here's my untutored explanation.

All neutrinos are super-luminal. They are created across a spectrum of velocities faster than the speed of light. However, they are still subject to the quantum uncertainty principle. Thus their instantaneous position, and therefore their instantaneous velocities, are a little uncertain. Those travelling just slightly faster than the speed of light will occasionally have an instantaneous velocity slower than the speed of light. At this point they are able to interact with normal matter, and thus we can detect them through a collision with an atom in, for example, a vast tank of cleaning fluid. Those travelling a lot faster than the speed of light are lot less likely to have an instantaneous velocity lower than the speed of light, and so are lot less likely to interact. My conclusion is that the rarity of neutrino interactions is due to the rarity of neutrinos having a super-luminal velocity sufficiently close enough to the speed of light for the interaction mechanism described above to take place.

There. That's my tuppence ha'penny's worth. If it's right, please will El Reg forward my Nobel physics prize (and especially the cheque) on to me.

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Will Intel slay or flee fearsome Snapdragon Win 8 tab?

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Competitor?

"You may be thinking about Moto's competitor for the Intel 8086, the 6800."

The 6800 was an 8 bit core. The 8086 was a 16 bit core, and came along some time afterwards. Different sorts of beasts really, and didn't really compete. The commercially relevant competitor to the 8086 was really the 68000, which is what Apple picked.

It's quite noticeable how even back then the 8086 architecture was a problem; only 16bit. The 68000 was a 32bit core, much more future proof as history would show. It took the x86 community something like 15 years to fully make the 32bit switch.

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Microsoft seeks patent on employee spy system

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You've not heard of Google?

Nuff said.

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China decrees in-flight cellphone calls are safe

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Am not convinced...

If a single Lightsquared base station can interfere with GPS receivers over a wide area, why wouldn't 400+ mobile phones flying in close formation interfere with the GPS on top of the plane?

I'm not convinced that they've got a way of discovering whether a plane crashed because of interference or straightforward equipment failure. Are we about to see a string of inexplicable plane crashes? They will happen, but if they're rare will anyone bother to find out why? I suspect not.

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@Daryl

Boooooooooooooo!

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World's first Win 8 malware 'bootkit' to debut next week

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@You're missing the point

All OSes, even Windows, are getting better from a security point of view. A lack of secure boot is the chink in that armour. As time passes that lack is going to become glaringly obvious because it will be exploited more and more. If the industry doesn't address that problem then OSes will always be exposed. MS seem to recognise that and are suggesting that certain features of an existing standard are actually used to help. There is nothing else viable at this point in time to help.

However, whilst it is worth recognising that MS's plan will bring about security improvements, it is worth revisiting recent history. Essentially secure boot relies on some keys being kept private and securely stored deep inside every PC sold. But when you examine previous comparable systems (DVD, Blu ray, PS3, Wii, X box to name but a few) the private key has always leaked out one way or other. Along with needing thorough technical measures (e.g. a TPM), secure boot will rely completely on all the manufacturers being able to protect the key from theft, compromise, carelessness, etc. We are kidding ourselves if we think that the magic numbers will remain secure forever. And if the private key does leak then an enormous security hole will have been blown straight through the whole scheme.

I don't think that there's anything MS can do about that - they're just doing the best they can by their customers within the limits of the technology available to them. I'm sure that the hardware manufacturers will want to protect their Linux sales by putting in some way of allowing non-secure boot (though if bootkits were a real threat the open OSes will then necessarily be "less secure" then Windows). But if we are ever going to really solve that problem we are going to have to sort out the key distribution problem to eliminate the need for a single shared private key.

Anyone got any good ideas?

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Hackers port iPhone 4S' Siri to rival devices

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Test to perform

So does this mean that if you ask Siri "Can I use Siri on Android or Blackberry" it will now answer with "yes".

I may go into an Apple shop and try that out. It would be especially amusing if someone did just that, but used an Android phone to do so...

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US anti-hacking law turns computer users into criminals

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@chris 228

Yeah right. US prosecutors are well known for their sense of reality, reasonableness and balanced opinions. Any system that pays its prosecutors through an incentive schemes where pay is based on successful convictions is always going to encourage them to look for easy wins.

Similarly the European arrest warrant system is being heavily abused. The measure was intended for serious cases only (terrorism, etc), but so far has resulted in only very petty cases indeed. For example, the recent case where the Portugese authorities had a British woman arrested on charges that actually related to her former boyfriend from years ago and his possession of forged currency. How does that even make sense?

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In case you think it doesn't apply to us Brits...

...think again. With the current state of the extradition arrangements between the UK and the US the federal authorities could get you with no due process in this country.

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Rest easy...

...El Reg is British, so blouses of all sorts are most welcome.

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Mozilla promises more speed with Firefox 9 beta

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Firefox needs to be careful...

...especially over plugins. Sooner or later they're going to break Flash (probably by mistake). As soon as they do that most people will defect immediately.

Also, they don't seem to realise that most people out there don't give a stuff for the technical advancements, etc. etc. All that most people want is a browser that just works OK in the same old way. People who use software get used to how it works and don't want it to change. Hasn't Mozilla seen the fuss over, for example, Microsoft's ribbon interface? Developers are practically the last people on earth who should be allowed to make UI design changes.

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Nokia's Windows comeback: Great but what's next?

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Seen it...

...And is on my seriously-considering-it list when my current contract runs out.

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Fujitsu readies 23 petaflops Sparc FX10 super beast

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Neutrinos

Either The Reg swapped my posting order round, or my broadband got routed via a CERN neutrino SuperC datalink...

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I wants one

And I wants it really really badly. And I've not even read the whole article yet.

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Read the article now

And I still want one.

That's an awful lot of double precision performance.

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NASA tells Voyager 2 to save its strength

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Not commonplace yet

I still think that any manned space flight is very impressive. I think even you would be impressed if you were strapped to the top of rocket with the fuse lit and the sky beckoning!

Terry Pratchett in one of his book pointed out just how weird we are. Boredom - we're the only species to have it so bad that walking on the moon became not worth the TV air time after just two landings.

NASA have been stunningly successful in their unmanned program. Pretty much all of their deep space probes have sent back amazing results. And in the case of Voyager, it still is.

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Compact Disc death foretold for 2012

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@as2003 It is convenient only if...

...you have a broadband connection. A considerable number of people who buy music on CD don't have broadband.

I'm fairly sure that current CD sales will not translate into the same number of digital downloads. The CD market might not be dominant, but it is still money worth having if you're in the music business. Though I can see them becoming something you can get only by mail order.

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Are we in the middle of a patent bubble?

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@AC 14:48 , Quite right

"Seriously; this would destroy the value of many American and European companies, leaving those who manufacture products, rather than those who design and invent them, with all the profit."

Quite right. Without the financial incentive provided by patents, no one would bother to make anything new because there'd be no substantive reward. And then we'd end up in a society quite like that of the old Soviet Union. Dull, drab, and nothing getting better than it already is.

Private investment has driven the technology of the world for the past 200, 300 years. Take away the incentive, and you're then reliant on government to drive things forward. How likely is that to be a good thing?

Your point about the evaluation of patents being at fault hits the nail on the head.

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The Great Smartphone OS Shoot-out

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Not always the case

3 uk do a skype client for Blackberries (and many other phones too) which works over the 3g network, and is *free* to use within the uk. They've done a good job of integrating it with BB notification system too, and it also goes to voicemail.

If you really want skype it's a very, very good combination. It decided things for me - always on free skype anywhere everywhere.

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UN set to dump GMT for tech-friendly Atomic Time

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And it isn't even hard to fix

The astronomers have had to deal with the various world timescales for years. The International Astronomical Union has a library for the Standards of Fundamental Astronomy, and there's some good routines in there to convert between utc, tai, ut1, etc. taking proper account of known leap seconds. Only trouble is that it needs updating every time there's a new leap second.

It really would be trivial to adopt that library, add it to ntp or whatever and have every networked computer system automatically updated with a current leap second table as and when necessary.

Putting off leap seconds and having leap minutes instead just makes the problem bigger, though rarer. How does that make things better?

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Americans' right to hang fake balls on trucks left dangling

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Only in America...

'nuff said.

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LightSquared pulls out all the stops to get FCC approval

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@Lance 3

The original designation of Lightsquared's band as being for satcoms is largely irrelevant. The satcom mobile phones themselves would likely have caused similar problems for GPS as Lightsquared's base stations. Ever heard a GSM mobile phone interferring with a set of loudspeakers? That's the sort of problem I'm on about. The problem would have been more proximate to the satcom mobile phones (they'd not have been as powerful as a basestation), but at the same time more widespread because everyone would have been carrying one.

The GPS industry got away with it because the original owners of Lightsquared's band couldn't make it commercially successful, so the phones weren't widespread so no one noticed the problem. But the potential for a problem has been there all along ever since the band allocations were made decades ago.

Also, we can't have a valuable piece of spectrum going unused just because the GPS industry can't be bothered to actually build their kit right. If you feel ripped off, complain to them, not Lightsquared.

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@AC

"What I would really like to see happen is the FCC go after the GPS makers for breaching their licence, but I'm too cynical to actually believe that is ever going to happen"

AFAIK You don't need a spectrum license as such to make a gps receiver. It is a receiver, not a transmitter. However, the stock FCC compliance statement that all the manufacturers have been putting on their GPS saying that it works turns out to be something they're not complying with afterall. They could be sued for misleading their customers.

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BlackBerry nicks iPhone's UK smartphone crown

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@Gordon10

"You seriously believe that chavs care for the technical solution of how their walled garden messaging works?"

Well, I find it very hard to believe that BB, the functional tool of the hard nosed businessman, was some how deemed 'cool'. Some kid somewhere must have worked out that BBM was cheaper to run on their limited pocket money and stingy allowances on pay-as-you-go SIMs than SMS or anything similar from anyone else. I doubt very much that that kid looked at *why* it was cheaper; the fact that it *was* cheaper is probably why BBM has become popular with kids in the UK.

But the reason it was cheaper is because of the way RIM have implemented push.

Incidentally, does the notion behind a BB PIN remind anyone else of Compuserve's xxxxx.yyyy style addresses? RIM might need to take care if they ever open up BBM to incoming messages from the internet; it would represent an easy spamming opportunity.

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It seems that some disgruntled down voting fanbois can't stand the fact that you are happy with your choice. Have yourself a rebalancing thumbs up.

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@cloudgazer, re:BBM advantage

I think that 'destroy' is too strong a word. 'Erode' would be more like it.

RIM's way of doing push is very good, being well optimised for minimising network traffic and maximising battery life. Blackberry is popular amongst cash starved chavs who have recognised that those characteristics save them money and hassle.

It is going to be very difficult for Apple or anyone else to surpass Blackberry push on purely technical grounds. That may translate into an inability to attract customers who demonstrably already do care about bills and batteries. Though Apple's reality distortion field does cause some very strange purchasing decisions...

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Apple admits iPhone battery suckage, promises fix

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@davidp1

Carrying a spare battery is a lot more sensible than carrying a charger... And if battery life is a problem then it's even more sensible to select a phone with good stamina.

It seems that iPhones have reached the point where they won't last long enough for quite a large fraction of their normally enthusiastic user base. It doesn't matter how shiny a phone is; people *can't* use it if it goes flat on them. And there's nothing like unavoidable loss of service to put people off what is actually a quite expensive device.

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As iPhone 4S battery suckage spreads, fixes appear

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Switch to Android

And indeed you are not alone. Many have switched, and there is certainly more app development activity in the Android space.

Personally speaking I find Android's terrible update mechanism (in fact, what update mechanism?) very off putting. Coupling that with the continual stream of reports of flaws and security mistakes in Android plus a not very good web browser makes it a non-option as far as I'm concerned.

Being a self confessed techno geek I like the architecture of QNX. It's much better than shoe-horning unix in to a mobile as Apple and Google have done. I don't think that MS have done anything particularly revolutionary in their kernel either. It will be interesting to see if RIM can build on QNX's cleverness to deliver an obviously better product (better battery usage, smoother app experience, etc). For example the playbook, whilst currently somewhat flawed, does a fantastic job of web browsing and multitasking. RIM will certainly be hoping so, but I fear that Apple and Google have shown that mere technical superiority is not a market factor.

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@Peter 66, Apple Long Term Support

"Can we admit that Apple have supported their products longer then any other manufacturer have supported an Android phone?"

Absolutely! Though of course there are tales of Apple withholding new features from older phones "because they're not powerful enough". Shame for Apple that the hackers generally get them going on older phones anyway. And then there's the things that most Apple upgrades seem to break...

So Apple are definitely along the right road when it comes to updates; updates yes, but still trying to force people to buy new handsets.

Android is terrible for updates and, if any kind of common sense prevails, will end up costing Google dearly.

MS and RIM seem to have updates well under control. In the case of MS it could become a significant reason to give a Win Phone a go. It might not be perfect (though initial reactions seem positive), but a couple of meaningful upgrades in the handsets' lifetimes seems a real possibility. Service packs and updates have kept Win XP viable for ages; why not the same in the mobile market?

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Sounds like it's a lemon

It's incredible how Apple get away with such crap software. We've all come to expect that the first iteration of an iSomething will be rubbish, and some how the market thinks that's alright.

But Blackberry has their first outage in years lasting a couple of days and people are reaching for their lawyers.

Either Apple customers are complete mugs who care not about service reliability and a Blackberry outage is such a rare event that it warrants extraordinary attention. Or no one takes iAnything seriously so long as it's shiny but otherwise rely upon Blackberry's services like their lives/businesses depend on it.

In short, what gives?

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French nuke biz slapped in mystery cyberattack

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@Completely Hatstand

"as *SERIOUSLY* expensive as a terrorist attributed meltdown?"

The problem is that company shareholders and accountants are rubbish at understanding risk, consequences and costs. Risks with extreme consequences but which are very unlikely to happen are often ignored. Why spend money mitigating something that is unlikely?

For example, Tepco had to be strong armed by the Japanese government to install pressure release valves at Fukushima. Turns out that they need those. Without them Japan would be looking at the ruins of four exploded reactor cores instead of four minor meltdowns.

Tepco are in real trouble anyway. They were pressed by various engineers and inspectors to shutdown the old reactors at Fukushima years ago. Had they done so they would be looking at a minor loss of electricity sales instead of complete corporate extinction.

In comparison, connecting vital corporate systems to the Internet seems much more likely to result in complete corporate disaster. So why do it?

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HP Project Moonshot hurls ARM servers into the heavens

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@All Names Taken

Well done HP indeed. I think that the power consumption figures quoted in the article will certainly attract a lot of interest. There would appear to be a lot of real world applications out there (web serving) that would benefit handsomely.

I'm beginning to wonder whether HP have rediscovered their R&D mojo. Their enthusiasm for ARM could really pay off big time. They are also putting a lot of effort into memristor memory technologies from which they could easily end up owning what is currently the whole DRAM, HDD and FLASH markets. These are two very big bets indeed, and the payoffs would be truly monumental.

All the other tech companies out there should really be paying attention. HP are technologically very close to stealing large fractions of their businesses from underneath their noses. Some of them need to get on the ARM bandwagon very quickly. For others I think it is too late - Hynix have already done some sort of deal with HP.

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Applied Micro leaps ahead in ARM server race

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Mini ITX servers as you describe would be great. Hopefully the power consumption advantages will drive the ARM genre on quickly, so we may not have to wait too long :)

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OS porting

You raise a fascinating point about the whole HP ecosystem. I suppose we have to consider the possibility that in the long run HP will port VMS to ARM. Now that really would be a strange event in history indeed!

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@Mage

"Intel can use their design expertise and fabrication to make an ARM that Texas, Samsung or Qualcomm can't compete with."

Yes they could easily do that. But that would mean that Intel are just another supplier in amongst a whole host of others. Intel's wafer baking expertise would mark them out though.

However, I'm pretty sure that Intel are desperate for the world to stay with x86 for servers, because then they'd keep the whole thing to themselves. At the moment they have only AMD to contend with. In the ARM market there's hundreds of other companies to compete against, and it would be difficult to dominate them all.

The moment Intel start fabbing ARMs will signify that they've finally admitted that x86 is a crappy, out of date architecture. That would really make them wince, especially as it would be an admission to their shareholders that the game is up, the big days are over.

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Safe as Windows: Smartphones' security nightmare

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Interesting comparison

The networks really want to be able to skin handsets so as to emphasise their brand. Google in effect said "Do whatever you want, here is the source code". But Microsoft seems to have said "This is what it's going to look like and you can't change it". That allows MS to push updates direct to users.

The networks and handset manufacturers may not thank MS for this; no skinning by the networks, less sales of handsets as updates from MS keep older ones going. But end users will benefit.

RIM and Apple do their own thing anyway, though I agree with Stallman concerning Apple's walled garden.

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Couldn't agree more

The lack of updates is going to mark Android out as the one to avoid. Bugs will always come to light and get fixed but unlike Google, RIM, Apple and MS can get fixes out to end users.

So how many people will continue to be willing to invest in expensive but difficult to update hardware? Potentially not many. So Android will have to become disposable, therefore cheap, therefore low spec...

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ARM specs out first 64-bit RISC chips

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ARM have to hurry?

"Intel has a lot of time to make Atom a better chip, and AMD still has time to do whatever it is going to do. ARM needs to move faster – or AMD will."

Intel haven't moved very fast as yet. If this doesn't chivvy them up a bit I don't know what will. It's almost as if Intel's strategy has been to wait for ARM to pose a serious threat and then pull out all the stops on a proper low power development.

That seems awfully risky. Intel have to make huge improvements all round because ARM's performance / Watt is beginning to look seriously good. AMCC are talking about 3GHz quad core ARM64 in the middle of next year! There's no word as yet on power consumption, but if it conforms to the norms of what ARMs seem to achieve then it's going to be a very cool running chip indeed. Whereas Intel have to pull off a large step change in their chips' power figures and get it right first time.

Look at it another way. ARM64 fails, ARM and Intel survive as they currently are. ARM64 succeeds, Intel lose out, ARM win big time. Intel won't be threatening ARM in the mobile market anytime soon. They way I see it Intel are probably in it for survival at the moment.

And look at it another way again. Itanium must surely be a dead end now. Intel can't possible afford to waste engineers on Itanium when the ARM threat has to be addressed. Very soon no one is going to be at all interested in Itanium servers unless Intel can somehow make them low power too, and I don't think we've even begun to hear the merest peep about that on any roadmaps.

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HP hooks up with Calxeda to form server ARMy

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Quite right

But it is highly likely that MS have realised this and that is why there is all sorts of ARM-ish noises coming from them. Of course Linux is already there really but has to cope with the wide variety of ARM SOCs. But if MS can standardise ARM machines in a way similar to PCs currently are then that would help Linux too.

Watch out, Intel.

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Apple gets patent for ‘unlock gesture’

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Oh that it were that simple

I applaud the sentiment, but I fear it won't work that way. All they need to do is get a court ordered import ban, and that's it. The state will then do the dirty work :(

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Anonymous shuts down hidden child abuse hub

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No, the police didn't do a good job there at all. But only the legal system can put these people behind bars. And putting them behind bars is necessary. Publishing a list of usernames may embarrass those that stupidly used their real names, but it won't send them to jail.

The police certainly need technical improvement. Sitting on the outside moaning (and in the case of Anonymous making their job harder) won't help any children at all.

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Important point missed though

I too think that getting rid of such servers is no bad thing. But the article goes on to say:

"or making it difficult to argue that evidence has not been corrupted by hackers."

There's a very real danger that none of the users of the servers that Anonymous compromised can be successfully prosecuted now (depending on jurisdiction I suppose). This would mean that they'd be free to disappear into the background and carry on their disgusting practices, only more carefully than before. How's that going to help children?

It is supremely arrogant of Anonymous to think that they're the only people who can do this, the only ones who can "save the world", whereas they are probably making things worse in the long run. If they want to make things better they should get proper jobs, perhaps in law enforcement.

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Leaked Nokia WinMobes ready for midrange scrum

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Fragmentation?

"With so few users, Windows Phone hasn't had the chance to fragment or sprawl just yet."

Aren't you missing the point of Microsoft's entire strategy? They're allowing some diversity in spec, quality, etc. whilst ensuring that there's a level playing field for all when it comes to software, thus deliberately preventing fragmentation.

Android is rapidly moving to the point where software Devs have to account for 4 or 5 actively used versions of Android on dozens of different hardware specs. Maintaining their software across all of that so as to maximise sales is a big job.

In contrast, whilst there might be fewer Windows phones they're all the same from the software Dev's point of view. So the Devs win on maintenance costs, which may well amount to higher software sales at the end of the day.

The old maxim "Write once run many" has real commercial clout if you're a software Dev, and Android is surely going far away from that.

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Deep inside ARM's new Intel killer

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Because

They're not especially slow or low performing. They tend to be well matched to the things that people actually want to do. That's why they've been so successful in smartphones in particular.

What interests me and many others is whether that right-sized characterstic translates over to the datacenter. Your average Intel chip is doing a hell of a lot of things. But to make economic sense it has to, it's burning through 100+ Watts. So could you do the same amount of work with a few ARM chips? If the answer is yes then you use them, because you'd likely save a lot of power. Even if it took 10 ARMs that'd still be OK - that'd be about 20 to 30 Watts, saving 70 Watts. 10 ARMs would be 10 cores at 1+ GHz - not bad really when you think about it.

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@fearnothing

The Core series was nothing more than a couple of Pentium 3's stuck on to the same package with a miserable excuse for a front side bus to join them together. Hardly any work was involved at all, and it was seen at the time as something of a desparate measure.

The fact that it took them 'two years' to accomplish that is not very impressive at all, frankly. In that timescale *the* Skunk Works team were quite capable of delivering entirely new types of aircraft such as the F117a prototype, the U2 (the A12/SR71 took a little longer, but not much).

However, Core was a marketing success which as is so often demonstrated far more important than technological success. Intel were able to exploit the fact that most customers would open the spec, note "dual core" and look no further. However, with power consumption becomming ever more important the customers are likely to take specs more seriously.

All it will take is some large-ish datacenter operator to fit out with ARM based hardware and give it a go. Not that straightforward, granted, but LAMP is LAMP be it on x86, ARM, etc, and MS are busily putting all sorts on to ARM so it's getting easier. It is quite likely that that datacenter operator would achieve a major power saving. And that is a major cost saving. And that is a major profit increase. And that *will* get noticed by others, because their shareholders will start complaining. And that will get Intel into big trouble, because they can't respond without tossing x86 in the trash bin and starting again.

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