Great, a cheap, good OS....... Now make it run on any intel platform with non specific hardware. Then, maybe then it will be worth having a look at it. Keep paying top $ for a cheap OS???
13 posts • joined 27 Mar 2008
This will be the most tested version of Windows yet, 1 year of Alpha under code name Vista, 1 year of Beta under code name Vista SP1, 6 months of RC. M$ should have this one right.
The free upgrade should go for all genuine Vista owners.
Too bad the alternatives are too expensive or too complicated.... Ubuntu 9.04 is now my best friend and I will live with the extra complications to make what I want work properly.
Taking Linux to the masses... I love the concept but unfortunately Linux distros have not been able to do so.
I have tried many flavors, revisions, brands and versions and it always boils down to the same issues. Windows is easier to use. When you get an installation package for windows, it installs, without the end user having to do much at all. Linux is not the same. Try to install OpenOffice 3.1 on Ubuntu 9.04... Instead of a single .deb package, there are many and you have to get to the terminal, use sudo and still it does not work 100%. Launchers are not created, depedencies are not installed. Too complicated for the masses.
Don't get me wrong, I love Linux and have been using for years, but I understand why the masses are not willing to adopt.
For the masses to adopt, the various flavors of Linux must agree on standards, especially in application packages. RTM vs DEB vs creating you own is not good enough. Maybe if the Linux world was uniting, it would force the hardware manufacturer to provide better support, which would certainely help the cause.
Netbooks are perfect for Linux, low resource, fast, in a lot of way better than the crippled XP flavor. Try to install something and here it goes again.
We can argue as much as we like, but a browser has to be bundled with an OS. Apple do it, all Linux distros do it. Same as a mail client, text editor etc.
The browser however should not be part of the OS and the OS should be able to provide all functionality, including updates etc, without relying on a particular browser.
So for Outlook express to display html messages, it would have to rely on it own rendering capability, effectively being a "browser as well", same for the update services etc.
Being able to choose which components of the OS you want to install is the step in the right direction. Windows should offer a custom install option so one can pick and choose only what is required for the purpose of the install (Linux distros model). If I only want to edit videos and nothing else, do I need networking, indexing, parental control....
Win7 beta 1 really should be a beta 2. I believe that Vista is beta 1 of M$ new OS. Call it Windows 7 or Vista SE or what ever.
Win7 is better than Vista in every way. It it perfect? NO but no other OS can pretend to be. I am unfortunate to have been forced to buy Vista with my new hardware. M$ has admitted that Vista was a flawed product, SP1 has fixed some bugs, but has not addressed the core issues (hardware incompatibilities and performance [resource hunger]).
I say the Windows 7 upgrade should be free to all Vista customers, because Windows 7 is what M$ wanted Vista to be in the first place. M$ has sold an Alpha release (Vista pre SP1) as well as a beta release (Vista SP1) to its customers. If Vista was a car, it would be recalled and fixed.....
Since Windows 7 appears to be a version of Vista with less bugs and a few new features, will M$ offer a free upgrade to all poor customers who were forced to by Vista via OEM?
or at the very least, release the necessary SP's to bring Vista to the exact same level as Windows7, GUI included.
Vista is no way near ready for the workplace. Thankfully, companies like Dell have understood this and still provide business hardware with XP and I hope they will continue for at least the next 4 years.
I also hope that hardware manufacturer like Intel, AMD (ATI) and NVIDIA will also continue developping drivers for XP. So far so good.
Since MS has admitted selling a bit of unfinished software, I believe that all those who purchased Vista should get the finished product for free, being via SP or by upgrading to Windows 7. If MS had any balls, they would make this promise now.
Since the OS is faulty, maybe a recall is needed? It would be the case for any other industry.
Vista is a major milestone. I agree 100%. It has encouraged thousands to have a look at alternative OS. I believe that Open Source will be the big winner.
As per "learning from our mistakes", it is obvious MS does not learn as Vista is the same mistake as ME. Again why should the customer pay for MS mistakes?
Installed SP1 without a problem. It has made some difference in speed, especially the startup process. Was it worth 400mb download? I would say yes, because it probably has saved me 200mb of updates.
My only gripe is that my VPN connection does not work anymore. It is a known issue and other forums indicates that MS is working on it. It was reported to MS during the Beta testing.
Now to support. I have tried and tried and tried again to reach MS via the web portal dedicated to Vista problems, but each and every time the web page indicates "Unknown error has occured, try again in a few minutes". Tried via telephone, but here in OZ, it is very hard to get through. Once you get through, it is a nightmare to get actual relevant information. Took me over 40 minutes to get the answer that there is no fix at this stage.
Free support, but you get what you pay for...
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