* Posts by sed gawk

307 posts • joined 1 May 2008


Oregon can't stop people from calling themselves engineers, judge rules in Traffic-Light-Math-Gate

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Re: @swarthy

Saying that software is not engineered is a bit like saying "we build bridges, we design bridges, but we sure as fuck don't engineer them." Now, one can slap a couple of planks across a stream and have a non-designed, non-engineered bridge, and one can copy pasta from Stack Overflow and create the equivalent software.

Or one could research how much weight said bridge will have to carry, how long/wide the bridge must be, is it foot or vehicular traffic, etc and engineer a bridge with the requisite strength, give, and support.

The distinction is a false one, bridges were indeed built by "non-engineers" and people died, leading to licensing of civil engineers. And to carry on my earlier analogy, if you only need to cross the stream once, it doesn't matter if you used a couple of planks, or "engineered" a solution using the appropriate materials.

I am not saying that all software is engineered, but you are saying that none of it is, and you are wrong. I didn't say that, you may have taken me to mean that but that's not what I said.

I said that "software engineering" is a misnomer, software is fundamentally a literary work, and wisely recognised as such under English and Welsh Law. Software in so much as it departs from making hardware operate, just doesn't meet any reasonable definition of engineering.

The source "material" itself is an encoding of an idea, which is itself an encoding of a requirement.

The output artefact may be built perfectly and still fail in unpredictable ways which cannot be "engineered" out, it's not engineering.

That's okay, it's okay that software is its own thing. It's a wonderful thing, it can delight and amuse, and it can be produced to a very high standard, but it's not engineered. It's largely bespoke, rarely reusable, and almost always completely lacking in anything that might pass for engineering.

Knowing what hardware your software runs on, ranges from essential to irrelevant. Ensuring that the circuit is (a) fused, an (b) said fuse, *will* trip prior to your wires melting is engineering.

Now what makes it engineering, is that I don't need to do the calculation.

2.5mm twin and earth, in installation [Method] will support value from [BS7671 Appendix 4 for 70°C PVC cable]

That is not true of software, and until it is, we don't have software as an engineering discipline.

We still use voodoo as an estimation method in a large percentage of development shops, when we start doing scrumban in the materials engineering world, I'll take the argument more seriously, but for now, nope, not convinced.

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Re: @swarthy

I count knowing what hardware you will be using (usually a given or derived requirement) and it's associated capabilities as a "known tolerance". EG: If you are writing embedded software, it will not tolerate using PHP.

I see your point but it's incorrect. An embedded device with suitable amount of ram and suitable toolchain will support C and by extension PHP and its dependancies, https://www.instructables.com/id/Control-an-Arduino-with-PHP/

But an arduino is not "proper embedded" like a few 100 bytes of rom embedded, perhaps, and at the extremely tight level only assembler will do, but that is about resource constraint, not tolerance.

Tolerance is it will fail outside of this range of e.g. temperature.

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Re: @swarthy

You did not say "that great code is indistinguishable from mediocre code, until a situation where the mediocre code fails and the great code continues to work"; you said that there is no difference. I am pedantic, and whilst the former may have been what you meant, it is not what you said.

I accept that as fair comment, it is indeed not the original wording.

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Use your handle to replace "known tolerances" with "Given and derived requirements"

Requiring an artefact to not fall on your head is not the same thing as a known tolerance.

Try to understand that "known tolerances" is not the same as "requirements", it means that If I need to support X amount of compressive force, I can locate a suitable reference material which will support that force properly installed. I can look that up and *engineer a solution* using the table for the material, like this one for steel https://ascelibrary.org/doi/10.1061/%28ASCE%290733-9445%282004%29130%3A1%28147%29

Per your argument about scale, I have seen instances where that scale was 1 user; you may as well be saying that if no-one finds a bug/vulnerability, than said bug/vuln doesn't exist.

No, I said that great code is indistinguishable from mediocre code, until a situation where the mediocre code fails and the great code continues to work, This is compounded by disposable software, who care if it only stays up for a week at a time if the life of the software is measured in days.

and "known materials and techniques" with "appropriate languages and algorithms", and see that you're spouting bollocks.

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Oh look at that, "appropriate languages and algorithms" doesn't seem to work, perhaps that's because we "write" software, we "design" software, but we sure as fuck don't engineer it.

I see I have offended you by disparaging remarks about the tea-boy, in apology I shall have a black coffee with no sugar thanks.

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Re: Great for this Engineer

Software Engineering is a is misnomer.

Software is something between literature (it's not real) and law (except when it is).

In any event, Software production, is not building to known tolerances with known materials and techniques, it's simply not engineering.

Sadly it's only at certain levels of scale that the difference between what a master can produce and what the tea-boy spewed onto the keyboard becomes apparent. And if you never hit that level of scale, there is no difference.

Serverless is awesome (if you overlook inflated costs, dislike distributed computing, love vendor lock-in), say boffins

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Re: not true IF DONE RIGHT, and for the RIGHT projects

FWIW the article pointed out a good use case.

A - trigger small script based on an AWS event.

So some webby front end is given write access to a named S3 Bucket (Input Bucket).

A JS client side read only front end is served from another S3 bucket (Output Bucket).

When an object is uploaded to (Input Bucket), use Lambda to run a script taking the newly uploaded Object as argument, and process it in some way, writing the output to the (Output Bucket).

Now that you could do with a single VM and polling of S3, but it's a workable use of lambda and the likely costs of having a small VM running constantly are likely to exceed the compute costs.

Yes - this is trivial and contrived, but it's simplistic async RPC.

That's useful if you want to scale RPC on a per request basis.

The (sometimes)useful side-effect being that every RPC has its own security policy, and can fail.

Who's watching you from an unmarked van while you shop in London? Cops with facial recog tech

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Re: caps on

Perhaps because, your every utterance drips with arse gravy

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Re: Funding cuts lead to this

Obvious Troll is obvious.

Because the last Labour government emptied the coffers buying off parts of the electorate, then got themselves unelected when people realised they couldn't meet all their spending commitments.

Bollocks - 2008 fiscal crash nothing to do with Labour.

The LibDem/Conservative Coalition got in and started cutting some of Liebour's pet policies until the LibDems realised they were (a) having to get off the fence and actually commit to unpopular decisions and (b)unable to play both sides of the street while actually in power. More Bollocks.

The libdems sold themselves to "call me dave", and were surprised that having lain with dogs, they arose with fleas.

The Tories continued cutting all costs at all costs and are just starting to save a little in case of emergencies They savagely cut the tax base to the point were services are starting to collapse in a politically motivate assault on the poor and disabled. https://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=23881&LangID=E

Still, when Liebour get back in Sorry - Tories - contempt of parliament, https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-deal-latest-theresa-may-crisis-contempt-labour-conservative-parliament-government-a8665576.html home sec forced to resign after lies in the house of commons https://news.sky.com/story/home-secretary-amber-rudd-quits-over-claims-she-misled-parliament-11353254

Fuck off back to the daily mail.

Taylor's gonna spy, spy, spy, spy, spy... fans can't shake cam off, shake cam off

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Re: So let me see if I get this straight

While not being a fan of super intrusive tech.. or the singer in question.

Some private company decides they have the right to use state-level tech under the excuse that a fucking pop star might be confronted with a stalker ?

It's not state level tech - its a crappy camera, openCV and a laptop, I could knock it up for you in couple of days.

I don't really have much sympathy for the "right to harass" a fucking pop star.

This is gross misconduct at the very least. In a country that calls itself a democracy no less.

The US is a republic, it's about as democratic as the DPNK.

Although the final vote tallies are not yet in, the indications are that Hillary Clinton will become the fifth presidential candidate to lose the election despite winning the popular vote https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2016/nov/11/clinton-won-more-votes-trump-won-the-election-and-its-not-the-first-time.

FWIW demos = people. kratia = ‘rule of’.

so democracy means *some* "people are ruling, not that *you* get your own fucking way on everything.

It literally mean multiple people get to shit on you, as opposed to a single person shitting on you.

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Interestingly a caution is not a conviction and as such was historically not subject to the rehabilitation of offenders act meaning that it didn't "age out". https://www.nacro.org.uk/resettlement-advice-service/support-for-individuals/disclosing-criminal-records/rehabilitation-offenders-act/

This was changed a few years ago, so that the cautions are not required to be disclosed.

But that is not the same as being "removed from criminal record", if you got caught and cautioned or convicted. That is entered in the PNC and there is no way of removing that information.


Doom at 25: The FPS that wowed players, gummed up servers, and enraged admins

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Re: One of the things Carmack will pay for at the perly gates

TBF: AI is basically rubbish.

All the machine learning stuff now is various classifiers, or curve fitting in a pipeline (so called deep learning).

He wrote what was needed to make the game fun, I suspect that had you applied the current approach to ML/AI to doom era gaming, you'd not have ended up with a playable game.

A good read is Mike Abrash's black book of graphics programming and the work needed to wring performance out of the VGA hardware show you how few cycles they had to spare.

He did a great job and earned his place in the history of our industry.

RE: Porn - Porn with a storyline worth a damn is not Porn, it's "erotic fiction".

Privacy, security fears about ID cards? UK.gov's digital bod has one simple solution: 'Get over it'

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Re: @ Velv

A passport isn't a proof of address. Nor voting rights.

However do you expect the Government to take back control of the streets and deport foreigners etc. if you don't submit to compulsory ID, hmmmm?

Just think of the sovereignty!!!

The .gov will apply the time honoured tradition of using the ethnicity of the people to decide if they are entitled to stay in the country or not, see the Windrush trial which worked a treat, some minimal outcry, but no real consequences.

Just ask the xenophobe in chief, too afrit to allow Parliament the "control" she claims to be returning to them.

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User: My wife left me, I've lost my job, and I'm about to be deported.

Consultant: Have you tried blockchain?

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Re: @ Velv

(As I have said elsewhere on El Reg, ID cards are essentially an instrument of public administration.)


I have a passport, I don't need an ID card.

I don't want to be stopped in the street and told to produce papers, without the right, nay, the obligation to direct the questioner to employ the advice given in arkell vs pressdram - http://www.lettersofnote.com/2013/08/arkell-v-pressdram.html

I'm more than capable of understanding that the kickbacks are ready and waiting to be spent on yet another shitty oracle frontend, with bored, underpaid, and untrained staff in some hellcage merrily conflating people with names like "Nish Kumar" with names like "Nish Patel" https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/dec/03/my-name-is-nish-kumar-so-please-stop-calling-me-nish-patel

Sorry, I'd rather the existing mess of ID which makes life harder for fraudsters, viv la confusing hodgepodge of identity documents.

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Re: Here we go again...

Meanwhile out in the Real World, people who consistency fuck up eventually end up unable to get another job.

Sadly this is just not true, we are outnumbered by the idiots.

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Re: another iteration

It might make it impossible to appoint a full cabinet, maybe not even a single minister.

You say it like it's a bad thing..

I wouldn't trust the current shower to

"...understand things like when elections are fought, for example, in Northern Ireland – people who are nationalists don’t vote for unionist parties and vice versa.”

It's tragic that we have no way of removing them, and no way of moderating their behaviour, https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/dec/10/activists-convicted-of-terror-offence-for-blocking-stansted-deportation-flight

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Re: another iteration

Amber "stop techies sneering at me" Rudd, would need a decent period of remedial education prior to reaching the heady intellectual heights of idiocy.

Good to see that you can lie to parliament, and get back into the cabinet without any bother.

FFS, please someone introduce a minimal level of understanding prior to appointment to cabinet posts.

Expired cert... Really? #O2down meltdown shows we should fear bungles and bugs more than hackers

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But this doesn't often happen becasue the developers are so focussed on what they want it to do.

Devs these days largely work under the thumb of a fragile project manager, the incentives for the fragile project manager are to ensure that delivery deadlines are met.

Of course the delivery date is often a fantasy date that is rarely based on the work required for completion.

In short, shit buggy software on time = bonus.

High quality, robust software, 10-20% late = no bonus = no chance.

The quality of the software doesn't matter to delivery managers and so its difficult to prioritise improvements to robustness over delivery dates, that's why the software developed using the fragile process is *fragile*.

That's okay, keep blaming the dev's and not the line of oversight all the way up to board.

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Re: Graceful reconnect...

Not out of fashion everywhere,

I'm consulting at a UK Uni at present, and I was pleasantly surprised to see something not very far from the classical clean disconnect and reconnect patterns in a recent pull request crossing my desk.

Space policy boffin: Blighty can't just ctrl-C, ctrl-V plans for Galileo into its Brexit satellite

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Re: @codejunky A minority

So, again, I've asked you to offer some advantage to leaving.

Ok. So you assume I need an education on the subject which again is your assumption and again I take that as you saying I need an education on the subject. And still am not impressed with your contribution so far. Also I was amused at your mock 'for shame' crap playing the poor victim.

It means, I think you are incorrect, and I'm not claiming victimhood, call me what you like, I don't much mind. I do think it shows the lack of argument that you have to offer.

Weaponised, your vote has been used to allow a right wing coup, that is the correct use of the word, weaponised. Accusing me of selling my country in print, is slander. As a Brexiteer, I don't expect you to have sufficient education to understand the distinction, that is an insult.

TTFN I'm bored of this.

sed gawk

Re: @codejunky A minority

We just have different opinions. In fact our discussion here started with you misunderstanding voters and population as I corrected someones big mistake.

What I actually said was "A world in which less than fifty percent of the population who were eligible to vote, voted on an advisory basis.." thereby making it clear what I meant..

The referendum ignored such boundaries so no. It was a simple majority referendum. In the GE's there was overwhelming votes (in number as well as boundary adjustments) for a referendum, and the only major party for remain was all but wiped out Again, people don't vote in G.E. for single issue parties, hence the dismal performance of UKIP (the single issue leave) and LibDems (single issue remain).

You claimed I needed an education and bated into being weaponised

I made no such claim, I clarified that I meant you needed to study the subject as your conclusion is demonstrably erroneous, take that as you will.

No its more to do with you assuming I am uneducated on the topic, assuming your opinion is more valid and your expressed position is how good the EU is. And your claim that there is zero benefit to leaving. My opinion is that the .gov in this country is more of a threat to me than the EU28.

For me E.U. derived legislation - conduct regulations 2003 - worth 20k to me personally, comes from Directive 2000/12/EC. That's a clear example of how being in the E.U. made my small business able to protect itself from larger business, and the sort of protection that the brexiteers have weaponised you against. I not despite the slander, you've blusters but not offered any benefit of being out of the EU yet..

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Re: @codejunky A minority

@ sed gawk

"They lied to you. This is not about what you want, no-one, least of all the people behind brexit, gives a single shit what you voted for."

"You are aware that the alternative (your position) is to invalidate the democratic vote (2 GE 1 referendum) because you disagree with the result."

My position, was not advanced. Such as it is, It might suprise you to learn, that I think a hard brexit is the best possible outcome, chiefly so that people learn what we got from the EU, and the issue is killed off for another generation.

It might suprise you to point out, in general, "the will of the people" is given fairly short shrift in this country, hence we (rightly) don't have a death penalty and have not abolished taxation.

Here "The will of the people" happens to accord with what some rapacious disaster captalists want for our country, so magically, it has gain import, sorry not convinced.

They dont need to give a single shit about me, I hope your not deluded to think the remain politicians give a rats testicle about you either. This is where we are all equal with a vote of equal value and the result is clear. We are not equal, and our votes don't count the same. Depending on where you live in the country, your vote counted or not, demographics and grade boundaries dominated this referendum and every G.E. in my living memory.

"You were weaponised against our country and sadly you took the bait,"

The cute thing is you seem to assume I dont think that about you. You voted to sell the country to the EU.

Outrageous slander. I voted in the interests of my country, and the accusation of "Selling the country" is just cheap and shameful, for shame sir, for shame.

The good news is we have a democratic vote where we all get to vote on our belief and remain lost. Twice.

While we are counting votes, Boaty mc-Boatface won the vote, I don't see you being outraged that "the will of the people" was ignored there, despite that being an *informed* vote.

And we had a General Election, not a second ref. Brexit matters to you and to me, but most people are not political junkies and just voted the same colour as they normally do, sadly that's British Politica for you.

I voted to retain protections against the political class that has decimated this countries youth, manufacturing and education sectors.

As an example, I invite you to read the ideas directly expressed by the leading proponents of Brexit - https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=britannia+unchained&index=aps&tag=googhydr-21&ref=pd_sl_87o827ankl_e&adgrpid=53559286979&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=259024162983&hvpos=1t1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17641411775915843556&hvqmt=e&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9045628&hvtargid=kwd-299456062213

Should you take up the challenge, I offer my condolences, as it is a depressing and turgid read, devoid of insight or illumination, quite apropos in the circumstances.

"Incidently, "your friends from outside the EU" have zero to do with European freedom of movement."

Very true. But freedom of movement has something to do with my friends outside the EU.

Like what, leaving EU28 makes little difference, the vast majority of migration is from outside EU27 in anycase, making your point difficult to see, to be clear, I'm saying that leave or stay, makes no difference to your friends.

"Again, there is zero benefit to Brexit, educate yourself, please."

And I am to take that on your word? Why? You dont seem to be very well clued up (in this brief exchange)

Perchance, is that because I disagree with your conclusion, in support of which, you've offered not a single fact, and instead made an assumption about my unexpressed position.

and I am educated thanks.

Strawman, I didn't suggest otherwise, I advocated educating yourself on the subject, which would enable you to elucidate the numerous benefits that are eluding me.

If you wish to discuss feel free but if it just gets you frustrated that things didnt go your way then I am not going to make you feel any better.

I'm not frustrated, I predicted a Leave vote, and I was correct. I win either way, Hard Brexit, Soft Brexit or No Brexit.

I run a small company, and do high-end work for which I've been competing in a global market without geographic barriers to entry.

If you think Brexit is going to change that, for better or for worse, I'd be interested to understand how I've been protected thus far and will be exposed.

I was making money in the 90's, the 2000's, the 2010's and somehow I think I'll manage in 2019/2020 onwards.

I do think this country which has educated me will be left poorer and weaker as a result of leaving EU28, simply as we are now utterly at the mercy of the .gov.

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Re: "She's a nasty misogynistic, racist, lying xenophobe."

"I would say a political nerd with poor interpersonal skills. Naive also, but not evil. Possibly easily lead."

What evidence do you have?

She doesn't seem naive in the slightest, ignorant, racist, vindictive and spiteful, yes but naive.

She knew exactly what she was doing, "citizens of nowhere" "go-home".

People mistake that when she spoke of the nasty party, she was bemoaning the lack of ambition, that they had sunk to merely being nasty.

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Re: @codejunky A minority


They lied to you. This is not about what you want, no-one, least of all the people behind brexit, gives a single shit what you voted for.

You were weaponised against our country and sadly you took the bait, Incidently, "your friends from outside the EU" have zero to do with European freedom of movement.

Again, there is zero benefit to Brexit, educate yourself, please.


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Re: @codejunky A minority

Nice strawman - I made no such claim to the value of the pound.

I suppose you can take the crack at the "brexit groat" as such, but well I wrapped it in sarc tags so shrug.

FWIW I don't want to be right, but I do think brexit will be horrible for our country, our economy and our democratic process.

I will point out that if you are seriously in any doubt that a decent part of the motivation of brexit, is to depress sterling in order to profit from currency speculation. Then I've a bridge you've got to see, only one careful owner..

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Re: my respect for Mrs. May has actually risen.

The misogynistic aspect is more incidental, most of the austerity policies and immigration policies cause dispropotionate hardship to women, due to existing structural inequalities.

Several programs e.g. "Sure Start" which helped women into work, were slashed by her administration.

You can add to the list that she personally benefits from Cannabis prohibition in the UK. due to her husbands investments in British Sugar and its forty-five acre estate https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/10/25/british-sugar-to-cultivate-cannabis-plants-in-norfolk-for-gw-pha/ (sorry for the torygraph link)

This FOI request attempted to discover just how much the UK tax payer was subsidizing May's campaign to have her competition locked up - Sadly it was denied - the estimate across the entire population is around 30% of total inmate are drug related, it's unknown what percentage relates to Cannabis


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Well said, I'd add incompetent to that list.

The official rationale for the go-home vans was that immigrants did not integrate and had not learnt English(half of the costa-del-sol raises a hand), so she commissioned vans to tell "non-English" speaking immigrants to "go home" in English.

Jesus wept.

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Re: Strangely in the last week or so....

Exactly this, someone else watching closely.

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Re: Strangely in the last week or so....

Great Britain is the largest of the British Isles, hence its still "great".

But to your wider point, yes, we've been royally mugged off to the general horror of our friends and the complete amusement of our enemies.

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@codejunky A minority

TL;DR; 52 % of < 100% is not a majority of the population.

A world in which less than fifty percent of the population who were eligible to vote, voted on an advisory basis, on something with rather more import and less understanding than might have been employed.

That is a minority basis, and despite being useful to the people pulling the strings, sadly, you are unlikely to benefit from Brexit.

<sarc>On the plus side, my investment in popcorn shares should be paying me a handsome dividend, as soon as I can establish a suitable rate of exchange for the Brexit groat.</sarc>

I hope you can articulate what you think will improve our country, once the removal of our rights of free movement has been completed.

I personally am in favour of bringing back the ducking stool to test the veracity of political promises. Why not? We've taken back control, why not take back control over causality?.
what's that you say? no basis in reality! I don't care, I voted why don't we just get on with it, why haven't we brought the ducking stool back yet.

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Re: Strangely in the last week or so....

@ Androgynous Cupboard

No chance of 2nd ref.

May wanted a hard Brexit, and she's managed to setup the cards so we'll get one.

Grieve (Dominic) had a chance of stopping it but at the reminder that he was a Tory, promptly threw the country under the bus.

So pass or not, we are leaving with no second vote, no general election and no deal.

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Re: Strangely in the last week or so....

@ John Mangan

...my respect for Mrs. May has actually risen.

For shame sir.

It's terrible to confuse being completely insulated from consequences with determination.

The entire ERG debacle is a side-show to distract from the desire to rescind our rights, and if putting ones fingers in one's ears and singing la-la-la is all it takes to earn your respect, might I suggest you excavate the bar from its current subterranean position.

Canuck couple returns home after night on tiles to gaggle of randomers hanging out in their flat

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Re: It always pays to carry a Micro-Uzi in a shoulder holster

Afghanistan is a special case of a place that looks the same after bombing the shit out of it.

It's a place that's easy to take and hard to hold.

America - Britain and most of the developed world doens't meet that first point.

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Re: It always pays to carry a Micro-Uzi in a shoulder holster

jake, you are normally quite sensible, surely you don't seriously think the right to bear arms is effective defence against USAF/other branch of the professional armed services, directed by a tyrannical government against the people.

I like guns, I think they are fun and can be used safely, I'd rather have one and not need it, than need it and not have it. But, a gun as defence against tyrannical rule seems overly optimistic.

On an unrelated note, would you mind documenting your greenhouse setup, you've mentioned it over the years, and I'm finally in a position to have my very own slack powered greenhouse, so in the market for tips.

Baroness Trumpington, former Bletchley Park clerk, dies aged 96

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Re: Advocatus Diaboli

Oh leave Chakrabarti alone, she's a very nice lady who's entire professional career has been helping campaign for our rights, such as post 9-11 attempts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-terrorism,_Crime_and_Security_Act_2001 to curtail our freedoms.

I reckon our pair of Baronesses would have got on famously and had a lot more in common than you might have expected. There seems to be some really distaste, on here, towards lefty do-gooders, even the ones actually *doing good*.

People trying to keep us out of the grips of overly authoritarian government are A Okay in my book.

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Re: Advocatus Diaboli

I'm sure she was a rude pain in the arse, but frankly your "English rose" stuff is just guff.

Why does she have to be "a rose" to have helped, or to be worthy of a title.

What exactly did she do for the Tories to get her title?

She served her country at a time of existential threat, She helped.

The notion of being worthy of a antiquated and inequitable honours system is quite a stretch given the typical accomplishment of the holder is simply having been born.

Behold, the world's most popular programming language – and it is...wait, er, YAML?!?

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Re: Go, a scripting language??

@glen1 I don't see what an operating system has to do with it.

So if you can address memory and produce/consume exact binaries you can talk to hardware.

So python with FFI can meet this definition. C natively meets it, Java with JNI meets it, Go/Cgo meets it.

RPython seems like a translator from python to C, not sure if you cite this for or against.

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Re: Go, a scripting language??


Compiled vs Interpreted is not the correct axis to split languages when determining scripting vs programming.

Scripting languages talk to the software, Programming languages talk to the hardware.

Mobile networks are killing Wi-Fi for speed around the world

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Re: Cost?


I've watched an entire boxset on it over an month without problems, YMMV but I think that I could saturated the bandwidth all month with only speed throttles as penalty.

I don't feel short changed, I still prefer good old wired connectivity but TV is the only time I miss a fixed line connection, and a quick ssh tunnel through a server with a fixed connection provides a decent enough buffer that it's perfectly fine for watching e.g. IPlayer etc.

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Re: Cost?

@ BOBSta

The range is shit but good enough for laptop and tv in same average sized room.

Battery use is not really too bad given the "battery backing" idea is more on the move, given it spends almost all its time plugged into a usb dock.

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Re: Cost?

1) buy Android phone that does "mobile hotspot"

2) buy Three mobile payg sim.

3) buy 35-quid unlimited data + calls bundle for three mobile

That's it really, I browse - ssh, do various Linux tasks, watch iplayer, netflix etc.

I can only offer the complaint that when using the telephony ability of the handset, the wifi throughput tends to degrade to the point of unusablity.

An oft overlooked benefit of this approach is entirely battery powered nature of the endeavour.

If Shadow Home Sec Diane Abbott can be reeled in by phishers, truly no one is safe

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@ken, Re: Austertity is a choice

I call bollocks on that one. The reason we didn't *start* paying back until 2010 was because Gordon didn't want to. He was, in fact, the first example of a politician jettisoning austerity because it was politically useful to do so. It didn't mean the money wasn't due.

It's not a loan, it's an investment which is now starting to return some of the costs, so in the longer term this will be a very good deal for the taxpayer.

On the so-called profit, I would ask what was the opportunity cost of investing umpteen squillion in a bank, only to get umpteen squillion and one back a decade later.

We were rather forced into the position, and the dire truth was that it was marginally cheaper to recapitalise the banks on the expectation of a future return, than to compensate all the individual account holders under the government backing of deposits in bank accounts.

On the wider point of printing your own money, this *might* be true if we were the only country in the whole world. The point about issuing your own money is that you can inflate away your debts. It also allows you to lend yourself unlimited sums of money with only inflation as a penalty - obviously http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/content.asp?Bnum=735 (TANSTAFL) applies here.

In practise, the whole money system is rather baroque and illogical, but despite that it has been rubbing along with occasional crashes for quite some time now.

The amount you can buy with a fiat currency depends just as much on how much other nations value it, unless you are 90+% self-sufficient in everything.

This is not quite the point, that is an exchange rate and not the point of "floating" currency, the idea is that inflation is controllable by manipulation of interest rates. The only other lever to control inflation is taxation, (removing money, dampens the growth of inflation).

The central point of issuing your own money is that taxation is not required to fund spending, but rather to control inflation as TANSTAFL indeed will start to effect the pricing of your securitized debt (guilts/bonds) meaning the .gov would need to offer really high interest rates to price in the depreciation in the value of the currency relative to something else, e.g. euro clearing rate on day of purchase.

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Re: Eh?

Nurse, Sed is out of bed again

Pass the dried frog pills Bursar. ;)

sed gawk

Re: Re:Re:Eh?

Totally agree FPTP is a travesty and both sides should have fixed it.

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“What I say to people calling for a second referendum now is you should be careful what you wish for, because my suspicion is that if we had a second referendum now, the same people that voted Leave – who are not largely speaking in London – would vote Leave again, saying ‘didn’t you hear us the first time?'” On QT last night - sounds like the kind of wise head we need.

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Re: I doubt she'll ever be Home Secretary, but...

And the only reason "our" stake in the banks returned a profit is because he fixed the rules so it would be impossible not to.

Explain why making sure we made a profit on a huge loan is a bad thing, I'm not seeing it.

He's a politco, they lie, but he was quite good with the money on balance. It went tits up all over and we were doing nicely far quicker than anyone else, till we voted the con-dems in.

Maggie broke the pension link in 1980 - Blair - then Brown carried on a Tory-Lite policy tempered with some moderate social policies and a good dose of sleaze.

I personally have a bigger bone over PFI then the pension scheme, as basically the issue with the pension is as much cost of living as the actual number.

So, winter fuel allowance, free bus pass, discounted council tax, etc and other means would be the Brown way of tackling that, and indeed the roughly 5Billion a year in tax credits went unclaimed, completely by accident I'm sure. But again, we can make sure that people can have a decent retirement and are allowed and encouraged to save both privately and collectively.

Its collectively saving if we have for example nationalised energy generation such that you could then make it cheaper. But I agree, changing the rules out from under you is unfair.

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Re: I doubt she'll ever be Home Secretary, but...

I don't care about who consenting adults choose to spend adult time with.

That's a matter for the people invoiced and their partners, not my business.

I do think a prurient interest in other peoples sex lives is a poor trait for a democracy.

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Re: Eh?

She had to choose between privilege of rank and position and upholding and living by the values of her political party and it's socialist position and she chose privilege.

No she had a choice between giving her kid the best she could or the schools in hackney at the time, which were dreadful and are now much better, I want principled politicians but the person who puts their political future ahead of their child's future is not a good parent. And conversely she was as good as her word, those schools are hugely better now.

She worked her arse off to get where she is, why should she not help her kid.. Do you seriously expect people to disadvantage their children in the hope of appealing to some random, less interested in "why the schools were allowed to fall into such a state", than claiming a scalp for inconsistency.

I don't quite see the issue, unless you'd like to insist that a market in providing educational services should be the exclusive preserve of the public sector. That's never been labour policy to my knowledge, so it's seems consistent to say "School is too shit for my kid, tough that you can't exercise that choice, but I'll do my best to make sure that your kids school is fixed ASAP".

This is why there's no choice between the parties any more.

Bullshit. flat out bullshit. Voting tory = "renting the house to a crackhead".

Voting Green = "Homoeopathic levels of belief in my vote mattering to someone"

Voting Labour = "Roulette", You could get a Liability (Kinnock), a Tory(Blair), a Wet(Miliband) a Democrat(Corbyn), Opportunistic sleazeball(Chukka)"

How can you not be thankful for such an embarrassment of riches.

People should be aware this is why there is little earnest drive to improve public education, out leader have no stake in the outcome beyond ensuring the buck doesn't pause outside their door and hinder their career prospects.

Flagrantly untrue, the drop in standards is due to Blair's target of increasing participation at university level without addressing the route cause, e.g. childcare provision. Resulting in pressure to assemble course in ways that are easier to assess without having to assume a larger body of pre-existing knowledge, at each level of schooling post-nursery. The quality of after school care and the chances to passive learn something fun are also not evenly distributed.

You cannot slate him for doing something, while also saying noone has any interest in doing something.

Lots of people are trying, it's a really hard problem, and so far all our efforts are just keeping level, much less impovement.

sed gawk

Re: I doubt she'll ever be Home Secretary, but...

@ken - you is you and me too, one was not forced to raise ones buttocks from the comfort of one's chair to answer the siren call of the donations bucket as we raised a few trillion from a whip round - was the point I was making.

Austerity is a political choice, the "contribution" as you put it began during the 2010 con-dem regime, and was not needed, has damaged our economy and has been jettisoned every time it was useful to the .gov to do so. Austerity and the 2008 Fiscal Crash, are not related.

Its a good story, and it's just seems nice and neat, we paid a lot of money, so we "have to balance the books", but We print our own money, bluntly the lies are not true.

Hint "we paid the money already" so we clearly didn't need to raise it in tax *before* spending it.

So balancing the books clearly not that precise an art, as in real life you'd need a creditor, but we don't have one, as we printed the <bob-geldof>f-gg money</bob-geldof>, hence paying it back by slash and burn = poltical con-trick - clue is the name "Con"...

If you will accept my work and provide an exchangeable token for doing so, we have a fungible asset.

If you add a nation state backing the issued token, and a central bank to authorising issuing these token, you can print as much as you like, that's really as barmy as that.

It works provided you don't poke at it, because your happy with the work, I'm happy with the beer token, the publican is happy with the token, and so forth.

You cannot cut your way out of a crisis, you pay people lots of money, so they spend lots of money, so you tax them lots of money. Cutting people's wages, support, or benefits is counter-productive.

We have made a profit on the bank bailout, now The dividend is worth £240m and the Treasury will receive £149m as RBS is still 62%-owned by the government. "https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/aug/03/rbs-to-pay-its-first-dividend-since-2008-bailout"

We are paying the cost of voting Tory.

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Re: Is it positive that maggie was the first female pm


Don't get me wrong. I disagree with Thatcher politically. But its no small thing what she did. She was smart, ruthless, and a really effective political thinker. She got to the top in a sexist society without having to shake her arse, or get her kit off.

Yes, I don't think the country came out of thatchers policies well but, for example when she got in she made a massive difference to the economic model of the country, for example joining EEC, transition away from heavy industry etc.

I don't like how she did stuff, that doesn't mean she was wrong. Her personal views, and the outcomes, I have issues with, but its a positive that Britain had its first Female PM. Yes, I'd rather it wasn't maggie but she actually is quite a two-headed beast. On the one hand, you have https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Bodies_(Admission_to_Meetings)_Act_1960 and on the other you have a clear wooing of the national front voters "the British character has done so much for democracy, for law and done so much throughout the world that if there is any fear that it might be swamped people are going to react and be rather hostile to those coming in" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Thatcher#CITEREFJohnson1991


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