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Hitwise and Compete: the user data ISPs do sell

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Pirate

Industrial Espionage

Its not just the USA, Hitwise claim they have data from 8 million UK subscribers if I recall correctly.

If you have an online presence, a web site, an ecommerce business... UK ISPs consider they have the right to scam your copyright content ,and sell marketing intelligence about your visitors and customers to third parties... so that your competitors can benefit from your efforts.

Its automated mass industrial espionage.

If it were happening to telephone comms, you would expect people would be jailed.

Its no different for web traffic. Web comms are private point to point connections between web sites/online businesses and their visitors and customers. Not some kind of broadcast.

A communication company stealing that data and flogging it without the consent of either party is simply utterly illegal.

BT's Phorm small print: It's all your fault

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Keep BT and Phorm Off Your Web Site

The muppets at BT need to learn the hard way; "content is king".

If you don't own the content, if you can't provide access to content, you are nothing.

Get blocking scripts and deny directives from here;

https://www.dephormation.org.uk/index.php?page=7

https://www.dephormation.org.uk/index.php?page=39

Do not participate in BT's list washing scam to get your sites excluded from Phorming. The are required to obtain a licence to exploit your content *in advance*.

BT's third Phorm trial starts tomorrow

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Responding to those visits from Moscow etc...

Add the following address ranges to .htaccess;

deny from 78.110.48.0/20

deny from 89.145.64.0/18

deny from 83.223.96.0/19

deny from 67.84.160.0/20

deny from 71.240.0.0/12

deny from 86.128.0.0/10

Phorm mulls incentives for ad targeting wiretaps

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Pirate

What about web site creators and ecommerce firms then?

Would you prefer

a) to have your creative work scammed without your consent?

b) to be subject to industrial espionage, and lose business?

c) see your web site plastered with unwanted and unexpected ads for competitors?

or

d) Phorm to go out of business and leave the country?

I'd vote d, but of course they won't ask content creators, because they know the answer they'd get.

Fingers crossed its not too long now before the cash runs out, and this bunch of scamming idiots leaves the country, with the UK technical community jeering them as they board the last commercial pedalo to sea of eternal oblivion.

American ISP giants: If we Phorm, we'll get consent

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Pirate

Err, what about copyright, and the web site owners consent?

Just a thought.

A common ingredient of an IT systems catastrophe is a failure to engage with all stakeholders, and understand the impact (and reaction) caused by your clever plan.

If US ISPs can't provide a secure, private data communications system with integrity... How do you think web site creators will respond?

Regulation isn't required, at least here in the UK/Europe. It already exists. Its obvious to anyone who isn't deranged that if you don't have privacy/security/integrity you don't have a trustworthy communication system.

Trust is everything.

Police drop BT-Phorm probe

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Alert

If you're with BT...

call 0800 800 030 / 0800 328 6738, get a MAC code, and leave.

Because no aspect of your data communication is protected. The Police, ICO, Home Office, Ofcom... no one will listen to you when you find your data has been intercepted and flogged.

If you run a UK web site, particularly ecommerce, you need to be *fully* encrypted. If you are communicating from outside UK into this country, you need encryption. If you use email, VOIP, Instant Messaging you need encryption.

Because all of your communication traffic has just become 'fair game' for BT marketing and adware pushers to use and abuse as they see fit.

And your consent is implied.

BT's secret Phorm trials: UK.gov responds

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Pirate

If you want countermeasures...

and IP ranges to block they are here: www.dephormation.org.uk.

But the priority is not countermeasures, its complaints and FoI requests, appointments with your MP at their surgery, letters to your MP, letters to BERR, letters to the Home Office, letters to ICO, letters to the EC, letters to your ISP. Don't let these evil people strip you of your communication privacy/security/data integrity rights, and scam your copyright web pages.

"All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing"

Edmund Burke

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Pirate

@aimee

Getting techy is playing straight into the hands of Phorms PR strategy. Talk of web technology confuses Joe Public. Getting tech heads suckered into raging debates about cookies is Phorm PR strategy #1.

The truth for everyone is simple; for the first time in the UK the communication industry want to sell your private communications, and violate the confidentiality, security, and integrity of our communication services.

If you don't want that, the solution is to immediately and vociferously start complaining, and switch ISP away from BT/Virgin/TalkTalk without a moments hesitation.

Keep the tech debate until we see if it launches. Then we'll have an eternity to find cunning ways to fight Phorm, and an eternity to lament sitting like stupified little bunnies in the headlights.

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Pirate

@aimee - accept the inevitable my ar5e

You'll find all manner of counter measures on Dephormation.org.uk. Does that mean I think its inevitable? No, thats the kind of compliant servile defeatist attitude that turns you into a slave for the rest of your life...

Phorm is not inevitable while I've got a pen and paper to write letters of complaint. Pick up a pen and write letters to your MP, MEP and the European Commissioners. Start fighting this evil with every fibre in your body. The pen is mightier than the sword. So reach into your coat pocket, grab a pen, and ram the nib in their eye sockets (metaphorically, not literally).

PHORM MUST BE STOPPED

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Is this the end of unencrypted data comms in the UK?

So the UK Government are stripping web site creators/electronic commerce business/online publishers of the right to privacy, security, and integrity in their unencrypted data communications.

Never mind the rights of copyright owners in the UK and abroad.

If you're with BT its time to get a MAC code. If your business uses BT to host web applications its time to find a new hosting service provider. And if you run a web site, time to consider blocking BT IP address ranges, or charging a premium to BT customers, or invoicing BT for copyright royalties. If you send data to or within the UK, consider encrypting those communications because BT cannot be trusted to carry that data.

This Government has lost its mind.

This is perhaps the beginning of the end for all unencrypted communication in the UK. And why? Marketing and advertising idiots dictating the design of a communication network, and a deranged misguided corrupt Government.

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Is this th

So the UK Government are stripping web site creators/electronic commerce business/online publishers of the right to privacy, security, and integrity in their unencrypted data communications.

Never mind the rights of copyright owners in the UK and abroad.

If you're with BT its time to get a MAC code. If your business uses BT to host web applications its time to find a new hosting service provider. And if you run a web site, time to consider blocking BT IP address ranges, or charging a premium to BT customers, or invoicing BT for copyright royalties. If you send data to or within the UK, consider encrypting those communications because BT cannot be trusted to carry that data.

This Government has lost its mind.

This is perhaps the beginning of the end for all unencrypted communication in the UK. And why? Marketing and advertising idiots dictating the design of a communication network, and a deranged misguided corrupt Government.

Police quiz BT on secret Phorm trials

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Watching with baited breath...

hoping and praying BT Directors face jail for this.

Its in my interest. I don't want my web sites scammed, I don't want my kids profiled.

And I don't want reckless criminal bandits at the helm of trusted blue chip companies like BT.

Its not in the national interest to have UK businesses scammed, and UK citizens subject to mass surveillance.

Phorm: Our business is fine, honest

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Stop

Seemingly BT/Virgin/TalkTalk regard Web Site creators

... as sub humans who aren't entitled to privacy, security or data integrity in their data communications.

First they came for the Web Site authors,

and I didn’t speak up,

because I wasn’t a Web Site author...

Next P2P, next VOIP, next email, next ftp,

PHORM MUST BE STOPPED

Microsoft dishes dirt on IE8 'pr0n mode'

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This would be same Microsoft

who tapped Instant Messenger using DPI so they could read^h^h^h^h analyse private communications now suddenly championing the cause of privacy by doing the same thing as Firefox has done for ages.

How about something really impressive, like 'tor mode' ?

Microsoft 'proves' six degrees of separation theory

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So to paraphrase...

... researchers at Redmond have been keeping copies of messages sent by all users of its IM service since at least June 2006.

And the messages were stripped of identifying information before being handed over to Eric to read^h^h^h^h analyse?

Oh fine, because anonymisation is so easy to do on the internet, with a simple magic spell that can read all languages/understands all identifiers.

I'd always thought MSN Messenger was untrustworthy; I think if you were in doubt this 'research' would confirm it beyond doubt.

Brits terrified of online fraud, but want magic cars, says BT

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Joke

Douglas Adams had it all wrong

Its not the hairdressers, tired TV producers, insurance salesmen, personnel officers, security guards, public relations executives, management consultants who need to leave Earth on the 'B' Ark.

Its the Marketing trade. All of them. They can leave Earth first, and we'll all follow.

"The idea was that into the first ship, the 'A' ship, would go all the brilliant leaders, the scientists, the great artists, you know, all the achievers; and into the third, or 'C' ship, would go all the people who did the actual work, who made things and did things, and then into the `B' ship - that's us - would go everyone else, the middlemen you see.". He smiled happily at them. "And we were sent off first," he concluded.

UK ISPs agree to menace their filesharing users

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Users need educating about copyright?

That would be the same hypocritical ISPs who are proposing mass copyright theft of web pages using Phorm Webwise spyware?

Infotainment video for ISPs who don't understand why stealing copyright pages might get them into lots of trouble;

http://www.dephormation.org.uk/video/copyright.wmv

And for everyone else, cut them off. Find a Phorm free ISP.

EU tells UK to deal with Phorm - or else

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@Thomas

"BT upper brass are living in some airy fairy fantasy world, unaware and uncaring that the illegality of their actions has actually been noticed"

I can promise you, after the BT 2008 AGM, the top brass are very very much aware that they have been noticed. And about 800 shareholders have also also had it brought to their notice too...

http://www.dephormation.org.uk/?page=27

I just wish they'd publish minutes and/or the video footage.

NebuAd looks to 'spyware' firm for recruits

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Pirate

Phorm,

Gator was sued in Virginia on June 25 2002 for copyright infringement.

Looks like the same business model, different label to me. Why would anyone invest in this cack?

Steal web pages, sell ads, pay damages, go to jail.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w08568bkQK0

Jolly Roger because its mass piracy.

Phorm failed to mention 'illegal' trials at Home Office meeting in 2007

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Alert

Can it really be a coincidence...

that 24 hours after Home Office link to Phorm is published, all Phorms web servers move from Gyron in the UK over to PSInet in the USA?

And 24 hours before the EU supposedly have a secret meeting with the UK Government?

What on earth is going on here?

EU mulls intervention over BT's secret Phorm trials

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Coat

Breaking rocks in the hot sun....

The point the ICO miss completely is this; while there may be little measurable economic damage... BT have no idea how much economic damage they inflicted... because they didn't care to measure it.

BT didn't care what privacy or security risks they exposed their customers to... because they didn't care to consult customers, offer an opt out, or even talk to the Home Office.

That's the problem if you rely on the assurances you get from someone with a criminal vested interest. They don't care about the consequences, because its not their problem.

BT are still, **still** leaking user names and security credentials to Phorm's webwise.bt.com server days after it was first reported. Anonymous my arse.

BT must be punished, without mercy.

And the Information Commission must be punished too. For being a berk. Get your coat.

Cavalcade of privacy watchdogs bark for data pimping probe

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Boffin

The 14,000 privacy watchdogs in the UK bark

Only 15 privacy watchdogs in the USA?

We've got 13,974... 13,975... 13,976... nearly 14 ***thousand*** of the smartest privacy watchdogs on the planet petitioning the UK Government.

Only twenty four chances left to say "my name is in the first 14 thousand"!

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/ispphorm/

Privacy? Forget it. Sell your brain and desires to the highest bidder

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Jobs Horns

Final Paragraph of 1984

"He gazed up at the enormous face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark moustache. O cruel, needless misunderstanding ! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast ! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother."

I think our political leaders may have sold our brains for us already. :(

US Congress questions legality of Phorm and the Phormettes

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Jobs Horns

"Midas" touch

I read somewhere that DPI advertising was like a Midas touch, you could turn 'trash' to gold by taking supposedly 'worthless' third party websites, copying the (copyright) text and using them as profile fodder, selling the info to advertisers, and even insert ads into the unexploited pages to make them more 'valuable'.

The problem is I'm certain the copyright owners of those sites don't see it quite the same way. When you start ripping them off you will suffer grievously.

In particular ISPs doing this in the states want their heads tested.

"But wait, how can I spot the culprits?" Ooh look there's the IP address in the request. This isn't like the sneaky days of spyware. We will know who's doing it, and how often... they reveal their ISP with every page impression. (kerching kerching kerching).

Its like the legendary burglar with his name tag sewn into a balaclava by his Mum.

"King Midas has a donkey's ears".

Activist coders aim to deafen Phorm with white noise

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@Richard Cain - you need a new ISP

@Richard Cain

I wrote it. Your problem is not solved. You need to change ISP if you are dependant on Dephormation.

Dephormation was originally intended to demonstrate how daft Phorm's design is, on the assumption that someone in BT/Virgin would get slapped. Sadly, I was wrong.

I'm not with Virgin any more. When you need to take measures to fight your own ISP, the solution is staring you in the face. Get a new ISP.

Pete.

American cable giant joins data pimping club

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Joke

www.parasitestxt.org

Solution for web masters, the new opt-in parasites.txt standard;

http://www.parasitestxt.org/

Phorm in phormulaic logo phorm storm

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Stop

Kent: All your content belong to us

This is the Phorm modus operandi.

Steal valuable content from people who take time to design and create it, and use the keywords obtained to advertise third party sites.

And assume the consent of the creator, because its waaay too difficult to actually bother asking for permission before you gorge on the juicy luscious forbidden fruit.

If content creators don't want to splatter ads their content? They get ripped off and exploited, but that's ok because Simon Watkin @ Home Office says so. The consent of the creative types can be assumed.

Complain to your MP, and get these evil chimps stopped.

Top security firm: Phorm is adware

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Stop

Argh its not *just* Webmail, its desktop mail, desktop apps too! STOP PHORM

We (peeps in Virgin NGs) discovered last night that content in Microsoft Office applications, and Open Office present the same 'user agent' as Internet Explorer.

To a web proxy (like Phorm) the requests will be indistinguishable from the requests submitted by a web browser.

The practical effect of this is that most popular desktop applications will be vulnerable to profiling by the Phorm profiler too.

Phorm' s oft repeated claim to operate user agent white list is a complete red herring (because all these applications appear to be Internet Explorer 7.0).

Applications like Word 2000/2003, Outlook 2000/2003, Open Office will effectively betray your desktop privacy to Phorm.

For example, the emails you read, and the domains and URLs where they came from.

The content within word processor documents, and the domains and URLs where they originated.

Phorm will not be able to differentiate between Microsoft Office applications during wordprocessing or email operations, and Internet Explorer.

The privacy and personal security risks associated with Phorm are simply too profound to be tolerable, not even as as an opt in model.

For details see

http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewforum.php?6

STOP PHORM!

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Dear ISP, I am not a target market

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Stop

Well done! Great article.

At last someone gets it..!

OPT IN.

No silly cookies, no opt outs, no add ons.

Its not rocket science. It simply has to be opt in.

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