Good idea but...
...from this government who knows who will get the training.
I don't want to right them off a chance to do something decent but its the government/prison service I don't trust.
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This is a great aircraft and since there is nothing else out there to meet our specific requirements it should operate well.
The thing is with military technologies, somebody always (or claims to) know better. Sometimes you just have to let them get on with it.
And the rolling vertical is the solution that was put forward a fair while ago, its simply not worth buying a massive super carrier since we don't have the infrastructure to support it.
Its just your kind of "out there" theories which mean we put ourselves at risk because the government is hesitant to buy new stuff.
I don't know whether you have noticed but not all the countries in the world are our friends, some of them have boats. Therefore without a Navy then we would be defenceless.
And I like the way you say the last 60 years, what about the Falklands War, defending British soil for people who wanted to remain British not Argentinian. That was 25 odd years ago.
And of course we should have all been Russian by now because they are using such old attack methods like boats, silly people and during the Cold War (1945 - 1980s) they were not interested in our country.*
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that nobody has thought up a defence (yes, 'merkins it is spelt using c!) for this. Which of course there is, it may not be published or talked about or even known by me and you but there will be a plan.
Don't forget that not so long ago the US Air Force was tasked with defence of cyberspace "in the air, space and cyberspace" (or something like that) goes the slogan.
My coat is the one with the CAT-6 cable on it!
I think you're little naive in your thinking there. An uncontacted tribe were spotted by plane purely because they could ONLY be spotted by plane...I don't think you realise the density of the rainforest, the peoples in the tribes here are not denied its because they are simply not reachable. There are members of tribes in the Peru/Brazil are who do leave and contact the modern world and some tribes co-exist without changing at all.
And don't forget some of the tribes in Africa continue to remain un-modernised through choice.
It's pretty surprising that a system designed to distribute messages cannot be read at any point by anyone.
Its no wonder when its down its down for so long...they have no idea whats going on on their network. They can't even send a test message because they can't see the content!
And to think that no third party would be able to read the messages is a little naive.
Bill because even he is more open than this!
...except the Type45 comments (though I do agree they are way, way overpriced!), I don't agree that the carrier can effectively defend itself as a carrier in the USN sense also has a small fleet to operate.
The job of the carrier is force projection so therefore it is tailored that way, and so will be tailored that way, therefore to avoid compromsing that a ship has been built for defence of the carrier AND any other ships within a sizeable radius. Looking at the ageing fleet we have and very low anti-air defence capabilities something had to be done, the Type45 is the answer but at the wrong cost!
And also once again, relying on the tech of other countries is not the question here but picking the best of what is out there. Not forgetting that mighty US is looking beyond its shores for technologies and best practice (the JSF F35) will be partially built by BAE Systems in the UK. And the point of the Eurofighter is not relying on other countries to achieve the goal but joining together to make a better product, something which seems to have worked (ignoring the huge cost factors).
Jolly Roger...for it seems the pirates still rule the seas!
Not being funny but every other machine on the planet comes with a warranty, and costing the £10m quoted I would these have too. By the description given by the Sun I would have thought we could ask for some warranty service plus expenses, anyone care to put a price on the SBS service offered and the RAF Harrier service?
And the Watchkeeper program should go the way of some of our other unsuccessful Euro projects. Yes some do work, Eurofighter and MBDA kit but most over priced under-specced. We could even do a "it was a nice idea at the time" and put in a museum. Shows how much faith people have in the project when BAE Systems are already testing another possible contender for service, TARANIS with full MoD.
...who make new and fantastic ways of killing each other, there was constantly the commanders that came in saying there was just too much information to be useful.
Surely this is just more, I can imagine this is useful for special forces to be able to see if the men you sent out to do the job are alive without giving away the position but anymore than that.
I would imagine though that this will as well as vitals will send back it will show a position, then again maybe not.
This is absolute tripe and hype.
I'm sure if I really wanted to (but I don't!) arm myself to the teeth with stuff bought off Ebay and the like and camp out in the forest with MREs for months but why?
And thats where the money should be spent? Why do people want to attack Americans, British and Europeans? I mean we all know really but what motivates these people (especially home grown ones)?
They might as well just have added the subtitle "I don't trust/understand IT and the Internet so it must DANGEROUS!"
Fire? We are all going to hell in a handcart!
I agree with most people the way DSG run their business is near criminal, over priced and ill informed advice. Wrong label pricing, poor displays and 'internet price' scams.
I can see why they have got away with it for so long, think about the layman. You want a PC and where is guaranteed to sell the PC World, its all in the name.
They all die in the end with their last century attitude, look at Trend, Time and Byte.
Paris because she is better than The Tech Guys any day!
So here goes:
@ Brian Morrison, sorry I meant untold as in it was lots of people but I don't know the figure. I guess the implication was lost in written words. And what I was doing is pointing that considering the countries involved were as a country are likely to be a much bigger target due to our actions.
@ Anonymous Coward, ETA have a different goal, different tactics and require a different approach and possibly be resolved in a political manner. That is why they are different, I used the term "lesser crimes" because that was the language used in both the El Reg article and report.
@ Steve, yes that would be true. Whether they had knowingly prevented attack or not it had not happened before so they were more successful.
Heart, because a I love a big debate.
I think comparing different terror threats is a dangerous game and then to conclude that because arrests are down that it's all over is rather foolhardy.
Lets not forget that while Basque separatists and Corsican groups do (as you rightly point out) lesser crimes, the Islamists killed untold numbers in Madrid and over 50 people in London, the two should not be compared.
And our rate of arrest shouldn't be compared with Germany who so far have committed little to Iraq (probably wisely) and a little to Afghanistan, the same goes for France, we have positioned ourselves as a target (rightly or wrongly) through our actions and likely to have different results.
Lastly success should not be measured in number of arrests but length of time between attacks. Target based policing was the worst thing this country introduced in terms of crime and punishment.
Helicopters can land and take-off.
F-35 can land and take-off, has swing role capabilities, has an excellent over-the-horizion radar.
CVF has an escort of Type 45 with its PAAMs and SAMPSON radar will adequately defend the ship against air attacks.
Why does everyone look back at the Falklands to point flaws in MoD thinking, there are flaws but their strategic thinking is often pretty good considering the restraints they are held in, the execution is often their biggest flaw.
Because Bill's Windows for warships will do the job at half the cost.
And as the anonymous coward above says it really is the wrong audience.
It really smacks of a start-up company, let alone one that ignored the channel sellers for however many years and then all of a sudden wants a piece of the pie.
Paris...any publicity is good publicity i suppose.
sometimes the "evil" MS just keep going as they are going and the competition falls apart by entrenching themselves further in a 'specialist' or 'expert' product with a price tag to suit.
Netscape was good and definitley my first introduction but by IE 4 the inerface had lost out and just stayed that way a bit too long.
whats the point of all this encryption when dullards are just sending it out to anyone that looks vaguely right.
And does Patriot Act stop this? Of course not and to think this is found by accident not some high level secret investigation. They are sending it out to anyone who looks familiar in adressing terms.
The weak point in any security is the user.
Flame? We're all going to hell in a handcart thats why!
No only you and the other "top end" over priced manufacturers who use James Bond et al to sell products which lost their value for money long ago.
Nobody can justify that price for laptops anymore, no matter how good looking they are.
Paris? Because she can afford it...all.
Boot other foot? You show me a fatal incident in the last 5 years involving friendly fire from British troops against US troops.
I am guessing you are American and therefore find it difficult to take critisism from a country whose army are used to train armies all over the world, admired and respected for their resilience, control and effectiveness despite limited size and equipment.
We mostly all respect the US on some level but you should never mistake this for blind respect ignoring all previous incidents.
Nobody is perfect.
I did mean some security by diversity with a little lateral thinking.
Though by previous defence procurement history the chances of this are very slim!
As for the EU Court, they are so right-on hippy headed judges what they say has no bearing on the argument. Just look at all their previous decisions in the human rights courts.
I like Apple's style too, its fantastic they can bring out the best product in the industry and then apparently just a couple of months later bring out one just a little bit better!
16GB is no good if you can't take decent (nee industry standard) pictures or have 3G. C'mon there is so many better products out there.
Stop because people need to stop and think about what they are buyin.
Just a number of things you could gain from a downed satellite. Not sure what the 'fail on deployment' is but here is a quick list.
1) Encrytion keys for existing comms or certainly the format, layout and rough method.
2) Capabilities
3) Comparison on power sources, quality of parts, reslience and structure.
You have to keep in mind that each country builds its military satellite 'blind' because you don't share that data with anyone (not even 'allies') so any insight into what others do would be priceless.
Even if you don't get much this would be major coup to get your hands on any of it, even if just for PR.
It is in theory a massive hole as a lot of big companys are, as secure as anything is there is always a hole, its just a case of finding that hole. Think of the Trojan Horse (yes the real one not /troj), defense is only as strong as its weakest point.
Whether those holes were exploited we will probably never know, the internet is very murky!
about being secure and making us all bend over backwards just to get some insignificant data. Then they send it in an unencrypted CD, unprotectivley marked, and without any security.
It wasn't nicked because the theif probably couldn't be arsed!
Mac users say "it was originally designed to be more secure" and how is that exactly? No one has yet been able to tell me in detail how the OSX OS is anyway more capable through coding to deal with any of the modern threat.
I doubt several thousand professional hackers, malware writers and clever kids with no friencds who will make a determined effort to break OSX on a weekly basis will be stopped by the original coding made over a decade ago. And neither would any OS.
It may seem more secure but don't rest on your laurels please.
with a normal SatNav? Put in the wrong village no? I thought not because its all perfect eh?
I think you'll find that the name/place system they are using is on the delivery trucks not the tanks themselves...since they don't actually drive the tanks between bases.
Still much better to jump on the bandwagon against all things military/British/purchasing.
Having said that they were doing their job, I think though until it was fully investigated the US should having kept it on the lowdown.
As for electronic intelligence gathering, the VHF channel is unsecured and the 'ship to ship' US comms are always live so could be hacked any time (in theory of course). I doubt this was the reason but you can't rule anything out.