Symbian != S60
S60 is a particular UI + symbian.
Indeed Nokia are designing new UI based on QT for symbian and Maemo.
(They bought Trolltech)
QT != Quicktime
Qtopia != QT, but a family of UIs written in QT.
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S60 is a particular UI + symbian.
Indeed Nokia are designing new UI based on QT for symbian and Maemo.
(They bought Trolltech)
QT != Quicktime
Qtopia != QT, but a family of UIs written in QT.
Is Android only technically OSS?
* Secret Road map
* New Versions in Secret, then released as "Open Source"
* Now booted out of Linux Kernel
Nokia with Symbian seems to be "really" going open source, but with Google is it just marketing?
It's really only on isolated sectors/isolated rural cells/very large cells that this is any use. In normal cell configuration the distance of the cell beyond the next cell limits the power otherwise the handset/modem in that cell would have poorer performance.
For most situations this makes no difference.
With more Smart phones, iPhones, iPads, iTablets, mobile Sling, 3 modems, then you need more smaller cells to increase capacity and power is not a problem. only money to pay for backhaul and bases. Current Data is subsidized by expensive voice calls.
If the % of data use rises and cells thus have to be smaller to increase capacity, then data prices will quadruple.
A thousand of my server on it's "1Gbps port" would about use up the 250Gbps and 16,000 of them to use up the 4Tbps rack.
If you put 2 x 5 disk RAID5 with 2T drives, that's 256000 Terabytes via a 4Tbps rack, using maybe 4 mega watts of electricity.
You could maybe cache all of the useful bits of the Internet on that?
If Users had 20Mps download... that would be 2 Million simultaneous users to eat your 4Tbps rack.
At typical levels of traffic/contention (as people take breaks to sleep, read the content etc) you could supply a largish country. Or a small one with peak time true HD quality VOD.
Who are these 4Tbps racks for?
A real HW firewall/NAT router will protect you.
Minority sports on laptops.
Consoles is main game market. Serious PC gamers use Desktops so they can change the graphics every 3/6/9 months.
Likely ARM will have SoC HW transcode support if a market demand. Even quite slow ARM core can do HDTV out by using MPEG HW in its SoC. TV bluRay or HD setboxes only use CPU for "tuning", UI etc, all the "heavy lifting" is DSP HW/Firmware, not general CPU SW.
x86 isn't going to go away, but MS and Apple (for different reasons) have made x86 less attractive and ARM more acceptable for a Netbook. Some PMPs are almost ARM tablets.
Since an x86 CPU uses x100 to x400 more transistors than an ARM cpu core, Intel can never ever compete on SoC integration cost and power consumption.
Archos 605 (does have flash) and later ARM based Archos, Android phones, Symbain phones, iPhone and iPad are all ARM cpu based. x86 exploits can at worst simply crash them if tjhey do anything (which is unlikely)
The Problem is not Flash. But C and C++ and other derived languages programming model, especially for strings. That and the mentality of how virtually all C/C++/C# WinAPI libraries are written. If it wasn't Flash it would be something else.
You can BSOD windows with a Java program. Thus an exploit could be crafted.
JAVA is nicely cross platform and very "objectafied" but it's a slow painful development process and slow runtime. VB6 running p-Code easily beats it.
A insightful Orlowski article with Comments Enabled?
* The iPad is a glorified photo Frame. many of Those now have WiFi and access to Flicker etc.
* The iPad is an appliance, not a Tablet computer, as such for people that want a large iTouch/iPhone rather than managing the complexity of a Netbook or real tablet, it will be successful.
* It may sell well.
* It may make ARM/nonX86 internet gadgets more acceptable. But Archos has had 3 generations of those (A605, A705, A5, Android A5), some even with 3G.
* It's not going to affect the internet much, except that Media & Gadget sites will have iPad links as well as the current iPhone links for custom app or content from them.
Google OTH is getting quite worrying.
The ipad is a really an Apple Controlled Browser appliance. Not a Tablet. I'd never buy it preferring something *I* have control over (Win7, WinCE, Symbian, Linux, Maemo, XP etc..)
ChromeOS should not be called an OS really. It's a more basic version of iPad controlled by a Monopolist.
No need for IE6
Opera, Seamonkey, Safari, Firefox, Chrome and IE7 all work on XP for me.
Admittedly I only use IE7 for .CHM and other Microsoft stuff that doesn't work with Firefox.
Why on earth MS supporting IE6 for so much longer? If you have something that only runs IE6 you are in deeper trouble.
Actually Teletext is Digital and over 30 years ago the BBC demonstrated (slowly) Colour photos + text prototype.
Sadly there is no BBC ceefax on satellite any longer, even though it takes very little space (transmitted in it's own serial digital stream, not in VBI). The Interactive on Sky box is very slow and my non-Sky satellite receivers only do teletext (very fast as they store entire magazine).
A £30 3G Modem aka Dongle, unsubsidized can cost more than $130.
Without subsidy, or lock to a Mobile Network, $130 for add-on 3G is about right.
If this is popular it might eat x4 the data per user of an iPhone.
If it used on 3G instead of Broadband to view video, then the 3G networks will die at peak time (< 200kbps or even 50kbps), though to an extent the Data Cap will manage Contention. Networks with 1G Cap per month /30days will be much better performance than 10G download cap.
If you watch near HD quality video streaming, then 3G can support on average 3 users per Mast! The 7.2, 14.4, 21 and 42Mbps speeds are Sector PEAK speed for a single connected user with a perfect signal. Actual average throughput on a real sector changes by less than 2% moving from 3.6Mbps HSPDA to 21Mbps HSPA+ as the higher speeds need ever better signal and all 15 CDMA codes (i.e. only one connected user).
With more than 15 simultaneous connections on a sector the speed and latency goes to hell. Latency can rise to over 1200ms (compared to 120ms with a couple of connections) and speed drop to 50kbps. By the time all CDMA codes are in use the 3G cell can shrink to 1/4 size and the average throughput can drop to less than half. The big advantage of WiMax and LTE is thus not the peak speed, but virtually no loss of efficiency or cell shrinkage under load (i.e. 20 simultaneous streams might get 1/20 of speed). Though the peak speeds on LTE & WiMax are also best signal and one user. Real life for one user is typically 1/4 to 1/8th of peak with one user, and divide by number of simultaneous connections.
You need WiFi and decent uncapped real Broadband to watch Video.
Or get a 2T byte PVR and record ALL the channels at once off air on rotating 2 week loop, watch whatever you want on real HDTV or on the Gadget.
Did I mention that with multiple users, through a Wall, even 802.11n can't do true HD? Which is why BTvision installs Ethernet over Power Comtrend (PLT) adaptors.
I've had an Archos 605 WiFi with 160G storage and 800x480 touch screen for 2 years. It works as a "Portable Telly" via Web + Flash, vTuner application (WiFi) and H.264, Xvid, DivX etc files. It's 4.8" so very portable
There are 7" and 10" Arm tablets PMPs too.
The only "advantage" for this seems to be iPhone Apps and eBooks (but with poor battery life for reader). The Battery life is good for Streaming Video/ PMP/Browser. Poor for an eReader by x10.
I'm sure this will be very successful, but there is ABSOLUTELY nothing ground breaking about it. The ChromeOS tablet sounds similar (and also wants to be avoided).
These are very expensive PMP/Personal Video players with Web & Email. If you really need apps get a real netbook and most if not all of iTune iPhone apps then not needed.
Only on West Coast USA
In Europe, more like Wednesday Evening.
Unless Apple Folks get up at 3a.m.
Reads 2007 doc fine with the free add-on
Office XP/2002 a little faster than Open Office. (8 year old 1.8GHz P4M with 1600x1200 screen and original never reinstalled XP from April 2002). Beats most laptops running Win7 or Vista.
However the latest Open Office and Ubuntu Karmic Koala work fine on 256M RAM PIII 450MHz laptop.
Codex means book. The early church (mostly Jewish) developed the Scroll into the Book.
Monks invented Illuminations.
It's taken nearly 50 years for Electronic Displays to get from being Glass (CRT. LCD) & paper (Teletype, Printer) Scroll based to page based interfaces allown simple annotation and random access.
As % of Population
Worst Abusers: People in Family & Friends etc.
Priests as % of Priests and Strangers are way below.
Kind of avian.
Then later if it dies they can quietly bury it.
The idea of WinCE/WinMo having Windows Look & Feel was stupid. Internally the kernel is different too.
It should never have had the "Windows" Moniker. Because it never was.
There is nothing really wrong or difficult about the Nokia Browser. The problem is a that 320x240 screen is just too small.
The other issue is cost. The iPhone often has a special data plan.
I can get loads of Data for only €20 a month, but my phone bill is €15 a month and I already have Broadband at home.
The Survey is comparing Apples with Oranges.
Still down, Downtime more than a day now. Some other issue too?
How was it hacked?
Lots of people run VBulletin, Linux, MySQL & Apache, though I think they use 4 to 6 servers. Is it a general flaw or just something they didn't lock down properly?
It is made in China.
If you really want a mac buy one. But not the Apple overpriced screens.
It's a Victorian invention.
Identical to the Viewmaster toy sold for over 50 years. Are the Avatar discs for it in the Toy shops yet?
I predict whatever sales of 3D TVs there are, the % time used for 3D TV will be tiny and many not used for 3D content at all.
existing pocket devices (not just phones) more complicated than a simple MP3 player have used ARM for years.
Basically virtually all 3" to 5" screen portable gadgets are ARM.
It's only 7" and upwards, mostly 9" up that is x86 dominated. Apart from Photo Frames.
There are lots of tablets. A bigger iTouch or keyboardless iMac locked to subscription services. No thanks.
I've loads of old SW I can't replace that is either DOS or Win16.
Some cases there is no replacement.
Others I can't afford an upgrade. My Win16 Adobe Première Video Editing still works on XP.
For really DOS apps, there's DOSbox, http://www.dosbox.com/ ARM and X86 versions, so there should be an x64 version too. No idea what security issues though. Since DosBox is a Emulated system and doesn't switch CPU to real mode, it should work on WOW64 on x64 Windows.
Windows 0.73 Win32 installer
Gentoo Linux 0.73 portage
Source 0.73 Source
Mac OS X 0.73 dmg (Universal)
Solaris 10 - sparc 0.73 pkg
FreeBSD package 0.72 TBZ
Fedora Core 0.72 rpm
OS/2 0.72 exe (OS2)
BeOS 0.63 binary (x86)
Risc OS 0.63 zip
TBH for regular users I can't see the point of x64. It uses more RAM always, to do the same thing and runs 32bit software slower. Unless you are running 8GByte RAM weather Simulator or a stupidly written game why would a single app need more than 512M, never mind more than 2G (the normal win32 limit per app, though 3G is possible).
I have a copy of Win 3.1 (not the rather better WFWG3.11 with Win32s etc ) running in DOSbox. Takes seconds to boot. :)
I have an old 160MHz 486 with real WFWG3.11 and a PIII 450MHz laptop multiboot WFWG3.11, Win98, Win2K and Ubuntu.
For about 1/5th the population or more, passive polarised glasses won't work well, unless the frames are shown alternately.
Shuttered glasses work a little better for lazy eyes, but maybe not at higher frame rates.
Basically if you have a slightly lazy eye, Stereoscopic TV won't work. The eye strain for good eyes is due to fact that the actual focal distance is fixed on the screen. Your eyes will try and focus at other distances and that causes strain, headaches, nausea. Having matched poor eyesight will help on that if you can watch TV without glasses but need glasses to read or drive :-)
The basic problem is that none of this is actually 3D, but poor, un-natural stereoscopic illusion. In real life even with one eye, or either eye closed you can perceive 3D. The binocular view of two eyes adds extra information to allow the eye to refocus more quickly and better judge distance. On Stereoscopic vision (so called 3D TV & Cinema) the images are 2D, not binocular 3D images.
I'm a supporter of the idea of patents.
But not for Software (copyright is sufficient).
Not for Services.
Basically for a working Machine.
Also broad patents should be be invalid. Patents should outline a specific implementation.
I still use Office XP / Office 2002. But gradually moving to Open Office.
Parts of OO are better, but it still loads slower and prints slower in Windows XP than Office 2002.
I hate the new ribbon interface. Can't see the point of it. Windows and Office seems to be going backwards.
There is docX compatibility pack for Office 2002
In their dreams.
If Android goes wrong (and that's unlikely much as I deplore the locked nature of phones and secretive development), then Palm, Rim, Apple, Limo, Moblin, maemo, Symbian, Nokia and others that use Symbian, Moblin, Limo, maemo etc will benefit. Not MS.
MS was never strong outside USA market on Mobile. Even in the USA they are slaughtered. The biggest WinMo vendor was HTC, who makes Google's own phone. The same people own Via, who make ideal alternate chips for Netbooks, that are more suitable for Linux than Win7.
MobileWin7 is the death rattle of WinCE in phones.
Only one focus point. Real 3D has as many as the Z resolution
Needs two working eyes. Real 3D works with one eye.
Stereoscopic TV doesn't work for almost 20% of people. It causes headaches in many because the focus distance is the screen. Always.
Real 3D changes view with head Movement.
This Stereoscopic TV is a misuse of the word 3D. Boycott it till they advertise it honestly.
They badly messed up with Office95 and had to upgrade NT (real Windows) from NT3.5 to NT3.51, then they messed up again with NT4.0.
The DOS Win 3.x to Dos Win4 (Win95) at time of Nt3.51 and 1 year before NT4.0 was same old 16 bit + 32bit hybrid on DOS with simply a new Shell.( Explorer). WFWG3.11 had 32bit TCP/IP, 32 bit Disk, 32 bit application support etc...
So they messed up badly technically in 1995 to 1996, but their marketing and API machinations and shiny Explorer really boosted sales.
They learnt nothing because Sales was good and Market Share increased.
NT5 was rushed and we got not too bad Win2K finished in late 2001/early 2002 as XP and server version badly delayed till 2003. (win2003).
NT6 was too bloated, too many important things dropped, too many changes of course, so we got the broken NT6 AKA Vista. Server version delayed even more to 2008! Then the final fixup as Win7. Not a new version at all. but final debugged desktop version of Vista/Server 2008. That's why ver returns 6.x, not compatibility as it's less compatible to point that to migrate from XP you might need a virtual copy of XP.
So what is point of upgrade on existing hardware? Meanwhile latest Ubuntu is better than Vista on a 2007 Laptop on my PIII 450MHz from 2000!
Apple don't make iPhones. Doesn't Foxconn make them? Is there anything Apple designed Hardware wise in an iPhone other than the case?
The manufacturer's warranty is often so full of ifs and maybes and exemptions that in Europe it's much more important that the Person that sold it to you, not the maker has 1st responsibility to replace or repair or refund if it it is not "of suitable merchantable quality", or develops faults or fails within too short a time period (which may be 1 to 5 years depending on Product.
Most Manufacturers' warranty are not worth the paper they are on. Keep the receipt and point out to the Retailer that they are responsible.
welcome our new chocolate making overlords.
Mobile phone gear is expensive licence costs. Hence a cheap reference design won't include it. Unless it's a Qualcomm or Broadcom reference design.
If the iTablet / iSlate is as locked to iTunes as is suggested, it might be ARM rather than Atom based. I doubt Apple will want people to buy it and put XP, or Linux (Android, Moblin, Maemo or Ubuntu flavours) on it and break link to iTunes.
Arguably the iPod was about using iTunes to sell iPods. But iphone & iTouch would seem to be about more control and making money from iTune Apps.
Add periodical subscriptions to iTunes for iSlate.
It depends on Price, 3G bundling and extra bells & Whistles as to the future of Arm MIDs / tablets and netbooks that are not phones in your pocket.
Archos have now 3 generations of "tablet" Media players from 4.8" to 9" sizes. They appear to have switched from Trolltech's QT and Linux to Linux+Android. Perhaps for App Store revenue and continued lock down with Nokia having bought Trolltec and wanting open devices?
I'd take MS (WinMo/WinCE or XP), Moblin, Maemo, Unbuntu or even Gentoo in preference to vendor Locked And MegaCorp controlled Android or iPhone/iSlate perversions of OSX
You can provide all the Source and make it impossible for the user to install their own firmware. Archos, Motorola, Netgear, Dlink, Linksys and many others have been doing this for years.
Many many set-boxes and DVD players run Linux and may not have any "obvious" way to update the firmware, and if they do (serial port, On the Air, special format ISO) you usually can't install your own version. Even if you can, usually it's pointless or becomes pointless as the product becomes older.
Early adopters are Pioneers. Get arrows in Back.
GPL is a red herring as is Android being "open source" at all.
Also you can have a Binary with the distribution for the Radio part. Most DSP/Radio/RF/GSM/3G stack software is proprietary, not GPL and not Open. The Linux will communicate with that via an API or in some cases to a co-processor via I2C, parallel buffer, "serial" or even ethernet in some embedded products. There is no requirement for the whole system to be open. Android itself is a Java VM like VM running Java like "byte code".
People be better to think of Android Handsets as legally and practically more closed than Windows Mobile and more locked than iPhone. Please take no notice of the Android Source being open. The phones are not, nor intended to be.
I think in future it will be harder to apply anything other than vendor updates to an Android phone and harder to install any app not from an authorised App store.
The early Android phones are now obsolete. In many cases even if the vendor did work at producing an update (why would they?) the experience will be poor or parts not work.
No Doubt Android 3.x will orphan more Android handsets.
Quite possible to have GPL3 in a product the end user can't upgrade.
Many embedded systems depend on proprietary 3rd party SW or IP that is not GPL. A newer version of firmware in some cases might have new IP not licensed for retrofit. (royalty per device is one reason).
I hope also the vendors have paid their GSM, CDMA & UMTS royalties (not Google's or Android's problem unless Google sells a phone).
Also a later phone may have different SOC with same ARM core at same speed or different other chips. Just because two phones have same ARM core & Clock and same current Android does not mean they can both run 2.x equally. IBM PS/2 with MCA bus and PC clones with EISA bus come to mind.
Or ASIC based and FPGA based versions of a Modem. The older low volume FPGA can actually mimic an unreleased next Gen ASIC, but the ASIC version can only do what it does today.
So there are Commercial, Political, performance and Technical reasons potentially as to why an existing product might not get an OS update (of ANY OS). GPL, GPL2, GPL3 isn't relevant.
Also the needed "upgrade" tools may include a new Flash Bootloader and DSP image, not part of Android or Linux, may or may not be covered by GPL that needs a Bed-of-nails and/or simple 5 pin JTAG.
A Phone is NOT a PC
even a PC can only update a little. Try Vista on a PC shipped with XP in 2002.
Android is about Google Control and Vendor locked phones. Don't be fooled by it being Open Source or using a Linux Core. It's a Proprietary version of a Java Appliance. Less flexible and open ultimately than Symbian or Linux+Maemo. In some ways less open HW than Windows Mobile.
Your phone mostly is only going to do what it does today. Phones are built down to a price. Subsequent phone OS will assume much more RAM, Flash and CPU speed, like the era of 1992 to 2002 on PC OS. Now the PC is more mature, so my $3,500 April 2002 P4 1.8GHz Laptop with 1600x1200 screen out performs many netbooks. But the Netbooks are x5 better than my (still working) Jan 2000 PIII 450MHz laptop (oddly though the Karmic Koala runs on it slightly better than w2K, but not as well as Win98 or NT4).
Even Linux on Server, I was installing RH 6.0 on HW in 1999 that won't sensibly run any recent version of Linux.
Android is a Marketing success. Not a radical new Open Upgradeable OS (Linux + Maemo + QT might be though).
I don't think so.
Apple has assembled a phone from mostly pre-existing phone components. Nokia, Qualcomm, Broadcom, Motorola, Ericsson have designed these or the parents of them.
Apple has added a cut down version of OS X that can have no user background tasks and a pretty box, nice GUI. If you just want to make phone calls, then a traditional phone is better.
I built a ARM based no buttons touch screen VOIP only phone with minimal Lab and a budget under $3000 before iPhone was released. It was resistive touch screen, so though running Linux and Qtopia a bit like WinCE + Stylus to use. Apple didn't invent capacitive touch screen and multitouch. They just added it. Anyone else was likely to around the same time. Packaging Commodity parts isn't innovation.
Apple can easily pay the licence.
Their phone is overpriced and HTC manage to pay the royalties and make cheaper phones.
It's not as if the phones are expensively made in USA. It's one of the cheaper Chinese companies that makes them.
This won't hurt more than Apple's Ego when they lose.
Don't go to Gizmodo then.
Call it a WebBook or something. It might have similar spec to a Netbook, but as ChromeOS is at present, it's going to be a locked down Web Browser Client Appliance. Just because the OS is open Source doesn't mean the Gadget will be open.
A holly stake through their heart and their Partners/Customers.
Or possibly a bonfire.
It says 6.8GHz.
So if you are using below the noise signalling you could get maybe a raw 1Gbps before FEC at about -3dB SNR
If you have +22dB SNR, you might get 36Gbps.
Depends on if there is an upper limit to dish size. 30dbi is a very small dish at 60GHz. (about 45cm @ 11GHz). I think 45cm dish might be 45dB gain @ 60Ghz with approx 60% efficiency. Path loss is very high... My software runs out of numbers at 30GHz.
If you used the full 6.8GHz and only a 1Mbps data rate then Shannon tells us you can operate well below the noise maybe nearly -30dB SNR
Then no excuse not to add Fibres, 4x Cat5E and 2 to 4 Sat grade Coax to each room. Then you can any Sat or TV PVR anywhere, any amount of networked stuff up to 1Gbps on copper and 10Gbbps or more on fibre.
No excuse if doing 2.5mm T&E which is much more awkward.
Don't forget CAT5 cable is better and no interference and cheaper.
Often WiFi is better (try 5.8 & 2.4)
Typical speed is 30Mbps to 40Mbps.
These can reduce your DSL speed or interfere with Radio.
These also may be cheating on spirit of EMC regulations.
If the makers of Power Line Networking continue to test for EMC the way they do the incentive is on CFL, plug top chargers and PC PSUs etc to save money on interference suppression and then these won't work.
My server for email, files, printing is Running Windows 2000, MDaemon, Apache, IIS, MYSQL, SQL7.0. Since install it has cost nothing other than electricity.
It serves 6 people.
The PCs and laptops run a mix of Ubuntu, Win98 (programming set-boxes/mobile radio), Win2k, XP, MS Office Apps, Open Office as well as all our specialist applications.
2001 was the last time we bought MS apps.
5 PCs with XP, two dual boot with Ubuntu
2 Netbooks (Linux)
1 Laptop multiboot DOS/Win3.11, Win98, Win2K and Ubuntu
3 laptop XP
1 Laptop Ubuntu
1 Laptop Dual Boot XP and Ubuntu
2 Routers / WiFi (Linux)
1 Win2K server
Instead of 3,000 (6 users) or 6,500 (13 computers) the annual SW budget is probably mostly on Games for Nintendto DS, Sony PSP and PS2.
About €60 p.a. on Domain Names and < €100 on hosting to run the websites (with MySQL etc).
Unless you have redundant fibre and no cap you can't consider Cloud. Even then it's complementary not a replacement.
I only use gmail and Google Docs for those other online people that insist on collaborating via it. I can do all of that on my own secured hosting without Google reading it.
For really private collaboration we have VPN and our own server.
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