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Re: @ Lysenko

Or we dont put up a border. If the EU do they can have troubles if they want but why do we need to?

Immigration, customs, the usual thing that all countries or trading blocs in the world do.

The EU are banning us from access to the SM and it is their right if they want.

May banned the UK from access to the SM in the Lancaster House speech, she ruled it out then.

The EU is refusing to negotiate, they have said this openly and without shame.

I believe there has to be agreement on three other items first. How can you decide what kind of trade you're doing if you don't even know what the NI/Ireland border looks like first?

Cancelling brexit would be a stupid idea to appease the unappeasable and undemocratic.

"If a democracy cannot change its mind, it ceases to be a democracy." - David Davis.

Although it means when we have an election we can actually vote for changes without the EU being in the way. We dont let the US or China run our regulations.

We won't be able to change regulations. We can't make our own TV or electrical standards, we'll be tagging on the coat-tails of the rest of the continent. As part of the EU we help set these standards.

Ouch what a huge mistake you made. I assume you mean brexit bill which is the EU wish list of fantasy and stupidity. Firstly it is ment to be for the commitments the EU has already made that they want us to pay toward. Which means the bill is the cost of being in the EU not getting out of the EU and that cost can only increase.

It's for the commitments the UK agreed to fund and signed off.

Second if there is no deal we dont have to give them anything at all (we can choose to if we so wish but its up to us if we want to). So the EU automatically get nothing. No money, no border and no special rights over their citizens unless they negotiate.

Yeah. How do you think the UK will attract inward investment after that?

What concerns me is the people struggling with this concept is the EU and remain supporters.

That's why the PM had to be told in Parliament that there would be no transitional period if the UK crashed out.

It is a real proof of concept that if you so badly dont want to do something you can make poor excuses not to do it. But just because you dont want to leave the EU for whatever actual reason you are chucking out some of the most laughable problems that you are creating then claiming they are unsolvable. So far I have solved those problems pretty quick and easy.

If you consider a sort of collective national suicide as a way of solving problems, yes.

Since 2008 the BoE and Treasury have been trying to reduce the strength of the pound to recover from the recession and bring the country back to a normal state before the next one hits. After the referendum result the currency fell sparking inflation and prompting the BoE to prepare for a rate rise. As a result the property market to stop rushing away from affordability.

Wages are stagnant, zero hours contracts are through the roof, inflation is up, your average millennial doesn't have the money to buy a house, and food bank usage in the UK has never been higher. Glad it's working out for you though.

The UK now out of the EU is starting to move that way.

Sorry, what was that? Did you really write that? Do you have the remotest clue what's going on? Or to put it succinctly, WTF?

The EU is years behind the recovery.

That'll be why the ECB is winding up QE next year.

And after the clusterfuck that is this week in politics in the UK, there really is no reason for Brexit as it is envisioned. A year and a half later and we find out there has been not one in-depth study and the cabinet hasn't even been able to talk to work out what kind of exit from the EU they want, the whole charade was brought to a screeching halt by the DUP, and there's two days to sort it out otherwise the next EU summit will be missed. But when you're in the Brexit suicide cult and are about to drink the kool-aid, I guess you've got a different perspective.

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