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Don Dumb

Re: Best advice

@Paul Crawford - "That applies SO OFTEN in science/engineering were the only option for a pay rise or other benefits within the company structure is to move in to some form of management."

The problem is that many places recognise that this happens, unfortunately the solution (put forward by the management consultants of course) is to end up with complicated functional/matrix/etc management structures, these end up having their own problems. For instance, not clearly knowing who is responsible for what, allows people to get away with not being responsible for anything

Even in academia, (certainly in the UK model), ultimately professors end up being merely people who manage and seek funding, rather than doing cleverwork and as no one wants to acknowledge this, they don't get any training and thus getting good academic management can be a lottery.

There isn't an easy way around this problem. Shitty management courses aren't the answer but good management programmes (there really are some and they require time and investment) might be the least worst treatment, at least improving some people's skills. Unfortunately too many places seem to think that a bit of shitty management training will do and all that does is piss people off.

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