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Ex-military and security firms oppose Home Sec in WhatsApp crypto row

MNGrrrl

Re: How to end the encryption argument

> Trusting someone like Apple with an encryption back door key is fundamentally no different. Either get worried about both, or neither.

A digital signature to verify the binary hasn't been tampered with is a very different thing than device encryption. It also neither adds nor detracts from security -- it's just a way for vendors to create their own walled garden monopolies, and can be bypassed by anyone who either has a decent amount of resources or isn't concerned with legal consequences (ie, a government).

> You're seriously suggesting that western governments should turn their societies into facsimilies of the German Democratic Republic, complete with a copy of the STASI?

I'm going to go out on a limb here... a library is probably not the place you go on your day off. But if you ever happen to fall into one by accident, ask them for a copy of Sun Tzu, and flip to about the middle where he talks about the types of spies and their uses. And who knows, maybe you'll figure out why the United States, with the most powerful military in the world, lost to a bunch of barefoot rebels in Vietnam. I'll give you a hint: the soldiers didn't want to be there, and deprived of female attention they went into town and found plenty of people willing to trade sex for cash. And, wouldja know it, they talked about their job... while getting a '-job'. The vietkong knew that, and used it.

Spies.

That's why America got its ass kicked in Vietnam.

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