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He's going to Rue the day he expected a Honeysuckle from a Buxus Camellia. Heather knows the thyme'ing was just Hawthorne. I bet he feels like a Raspberry now. I'm not calling him a Briar but he just doesn't care about putting his Gooseberry into a Jasmine or a Daphne. Anyway, off to the Juniper forums now to discuss dealers in Magnolia, Texas. x