French cops claimed to hold secret, illegal gypsy database

probbally a database of criminals

And that a high percentage of the criminals is roma is not something you can blame the French.

All the EU countries should deport criminal non-nationals.

Secret?

If the details reported are correct then it would not be so much secret as "undisclosed" since all the police officers seem to know about it. Hard to call it secret once the audience goes above 1,000.

Of course the difficulty now is that you cannot prove a non-existence, just like you cannot prove a lack of bias (racial, religious, sex etc etc et *********** cetra) so j'accuse will be just as destructive for the French police as 'institutional racism' has been for the UK police. Once the label is in place you have to go to opposite extremes to combat it meaning that every interaction with the public is held up to scrutiny by anyone with an agenda and laden with invective from every side in the media.

Precisions...

First of all, la Gendarmerie is not the French National police force. The French have three main independent police forces, La Police Nationale, La Police Municipale and La Gendarmerie. Les Gendarmes are actually military but they perform policing duties in rural areas, while La Police National (the guys you're talking about when you say "the police") are concerned more with towns.

Now, as quoted in your article, French law applies to French citizens, not foreigners on French soil. If those foreigners are European citizens then they are protected by the agreements of the member states. The only legal boo boo that France has made in the Roms squabble is that a circular by some civil servant mentioned them by name.

Travelling in a foreign country

because the very first article of the French Constitution asserts that the Republic "guarantees the equality before the law of all citizens, irrespective of racial origin or religion".?

Well thats a stupid argument! They are not French citizens! They are from Romania and the French police presumably wanted to keep an eye on the criminal activities of some of them. Whats the problem? Most of Europe requires immigrants to register with the police when you move into a community.

No matter what we might think, the police and the locals all know that when they roll into town and park up, up goes the crime rate and it requires bulldozers to repair the land once they leave while paying nothing towards any public service.

Well, you know what's going to happen next

A database scoped to contain Far Too Much Information on Everyone, Everywhere. Doesn't even need to contain actually everything on everyone, only potentially. Fill-as-you-go. Start with everything you have, add more as you get your grubby paws on it. Egality, fershure.

groups

This reminds me of a book I read about the Hells Angels motorcycle club. The police say they are a criminal organisation, they say "we are a club and some of our members are criminals."

I would expect any database to be able to produce the required information with a simple search.

Presumably left handed red haired musicians are also discriminated against.

Pikeybase

Vive le Pikeybase Internationale.

What worries me most

... is that on a website like this with supposedly reasonable people posting, there is an awful lot of "well these people" type comments that are best suited to the Daily Mail or similar.

Yes, there are some Roma who are criminals. There are many non Roma who are also criminals. There are I suppose there are also many Roma who aren't.

I wonder how some of the posters here came up with the statistics they have "90%" of these people.

"These people don't want to integrate into society"

Kind of a vicious circle methinks - Why would you want to be integrated into a society with this sort of attutude?

ethnic populations

Fact is

If you ask at your local authority in every european country, they can supply statistics on every minority who live in a community. They do this for public service planning reasons but of course these DATABASES can be used for more draconian measures.

I for one am so pissed off with the PC, health and safety and human rights dogooders that are so prevalent nowadays.

The fact is, every european citizen, Roma included, have the right to live and WORK in any other european country under the laws of that state. But they have to obey the rules whether they like it or not and if they don't, then THEY have to take responsibility for THEIR actions.

Thats the way it is, we are all in a database somewhere and while the vast majority are law abiding tax paying citizens, those who choose not to comply can expect to be treated with contempt.

And its easy, fill the form in, supply a copy of your passport, register with the local authority, apply for housing, go to the local job centre, learn the language.

If not GTFO as somebody has so eloquently explained in a previous post.

Furthermore, since we live in a democracy and not as some would have us believe under some nazi dictatorship, those who want a free for all can quite simply vote for the party that will deliver a politically correct, totally safe and healthy environment with complete human rights for all irrespective of whether they are state spongers or criminals; while having no cars, no concrete no co2 emissions, no chemicals and no aircraft. No mobile phones and no internet.

Lets see how long we survive under that kind of regime.

Bullshit!!