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German chipmaker Infineon Technologies is sampling a new multi-standard transceiver chip sure to heat up the ongoing 4G contest between LTE and WiMAX. Thanks to a push from companies like Intel, Sprint, Clearwire, Google, and others, the WiMAX (Worldwide Interoperability for Microwave Access) standard has already hit the …

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  1. Alan W. Rateliff, II
    Paris Hilton

    What kind of handsets will take advantage?

    The faster we get with our cellular broadband, the more I have to wonder, what kind of handsets will truly take advantage of the faster technology? Do we currently have processors in phones fast enough to handle signal processing, download data, render HTML/WML, and decode graphics with speed as to do the technology justice? Sure, we can do faster processors, but can we do that without requiring a fan on the mobile?

    The answer may lie under my chin as I have yet to try a mobile with WiFi.

    Paris, what's under HER chin?

  2. Anton Ivanov

    Re: What kind of handsets will take advantage?

    Try a Nokia E65. It takes it 2-4 minutes to render a register web page. Probably says all that has to be said here for now. It may however, be a different story in 2015.

  3. Allan Rutland
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    Nice

    And a huge advantage in the placing of infrastructure in new locations. Why bother laying miles of cable when you can get away using a few set transmitters. As an alternative to fibre to home, its by far a cheaper solution and one which provides a lot less problems then the good old BT method of digging up roads and causing no end of mayhem.

    I might be over simplifying things, but as a home connection replacement, 3g is already trying to edge into this market. Yet failing due to the infrastructure being there. In areas without the infrastructure 3g, and 4g/WiMax has a huge potential. And one thankfully away from BT.

  4. Neil Hoskins
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    100,000 by 2015?

    Pah! We might just about have 3G around here by then.

  5. Charlie Clark Silver badge
    Boffin

    If you build them they will come.

    While telco's are probably not desperate to upgrade their entire networks to support any new standards, they do now have established mobile data customer bases. So, as long as they don't have to bid for spectrum they will continue to roll out new kit and upgrade key locations: stations, airports, etc. just as they have with UMTS to HSDPA and then HSUPA and LTE fits in nicely. Probably available first as a USB stick before getting Jobs to tell everyone how great the JesusPhone 4G is - the fanboys. As for what the bandwidth will be used for - porn, just like normal highspeed internet connections.

  6. richard

    The handheld kind

    By the time millions are using WiMAX or its competitors we'll be wearing our mobiles so they better had stay cool.

    I doubt hardware will be the problem at the get go, what exactly do people expect we'll need to download at 100Mbps anyway?

  7. chris

    Why do we need 4g?

    3G isn't all that slow, why do we need 4G?

    new things allowed by 3G:-

    -video calling (I've never done or even wanted to do)

    -faster data access (expensive so I avoid, generally use wifi)

    my phones (E71) slow even when using wifi so a faster speeds unlikely to change that much

    3G as a board band replacement only works as the phone companies are selling excess capacity and is almost all profit allowing for the really good deals available. Think that when they have to build a new network to offer the same service that will still be true?

  8. leexgx

    g4

    wimax seems to be an USA only thing i can see the LTE G4 been an better product

  9. Gulfie
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    Re: What kind of handsets will take advantage?

    Within five years I'd expect all mobile computers - from laptops to PDAs and everything in between - to have bluetooth, WiFi and 3G/4G built in as a matter of course. All you'd have to do is put a SIM in and away you go, truly mobile computing.

  10. Lionel Baden
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    useless

    by the time its implemented it wont be enough

    @chris

    "640K ought to be enough for anybody." - "Bill Gates, 1981

  11. pctechxp

    It's a con

    As the speeds quoted depend on noone else using the network at the time.

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Happy

    It's not a con, just takes a little thought...

    Cell speeds vary - they don't however depend on the load in the network as a whole, rather more where you are, what your trying to do and how many others are doing it within your cell / carrier - so load there rather than the network.

    LTE+ currently has speed in excess of 340 Mb/s (as tested by NSN last year), but will be a long time before we can get anywhere near that, early adoption can expect around 40-50 Mb/s.

    WiMAX is never going to keep trend with LTE in terms of bandwidth - they are comparable in the earliest rollout phases (as indeed is HS+) but long term LTE is superior (currently and has been for a while).

    Its unlikely you'll see (at least advertised) the LTE rollout, it'll simply be subsumed into the normal upgrade process we are seeing now in HS - hence the name evolution in LTE. Whilst different hardware in the base station for Joe Blogs it'll be mostly behind the scenes, flash updates to data cards, new software patch, etc.

    Mobility is a bit of a misnomer - what we are talking about is ubiquitous over air connectivity, so you can roll up anywhere and use you laptop / a another UE and get decent throughput - again its that sort of hotspot ideology (from the early WiFi days) that is already being used for HS and will continue into LTE. Nobody is going to be walking about streaming a HD film to watch, they may however sit somewhere and do so.

  13. Andy Watt
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    infineon

    a nice chip? you've clearly never worked with emerging new infineon hardware... god help the early adopters!

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