Demon ends porn-less Internet Archive block

Waste of money?

Well, of course it's a waste of time and money. With governments, it's all about image, so they need to be seen to be doing something. Now, as IT geeks we do know that all the filtering and firewalls they are proposing are simply not going to work, but the great un washed don't know that, and can relax in "safety" knowing that their caring goverment is protecting them against the hordes of child porn purveyors out there.

Which gives them that lovely warm, fuzzy feeling that lets them vote the scumbag pollies right back in again and again!

@Kate

Ahh, but if you don't vote, *the wrong lizard might get in!*

@Alex Wright

It doesn't matter whether you vote or not, the 'wrong lizard' ALWAYS gets in! In the recent Aussie election, I did not want a committed Christian running my country. Like I had a choice, both Howard and Rudd were such.

And just to make sure, we have compulsory voting here. Only exceptions are religious. Fortunately, my religion does not allow me to vote for male patriarchal power systems! :-) All of which means that since we have a good Christian Fuh^H^H^H leader, he has the typical Christian attitude of ban and censor anything and everything that he doesn't like. And that means teh Interwebs. And so we get the Great Aussie Firewall, not even good at keeping rabbits out!

just proxy everything?

this is getting complicated with more and more mass sites ending up on this list. I'm sure it's only a matter of time when all the top sites are on there - they might as well be putting all traffic through proxies. it's a shame the internet won't be as reliable/won't work in some cases but hay it's better than having to actually to go to the trouble of having to prove in court whether this material is actually unlawful and getting the content removed in the first place.

Your answer...

"It is not the job of anyone to filter anything. - To start, it doesn't work...To end, it makes impossible to track the criminals. So why waste so much money with something that doesn't work?" Kindian

"LA LA LA LA LA LA" UK Government

Be Limited...

I raised a ticket regarding access to the way back machine last week as when posting the form with the URL you want I appeard to get a 404 error back.

However, I have tried it this morning and it is working.., I guess that they will close my ticket claiming that it must have been down to my setup!

Looked at Be's terms, they let you go with 3 months notice, but will charge you to expedite leaving... But what ISPs would you move to? Who is not going to get all protective and block anything which mildly offends?

Thumbs down as there is not a fingered salut for my ISP

Be elsewhere.

Already told Be where they can put any blocking screwups they may care to implement. Move to A&A in progress as fast as OpenReach can switch over the line.

No idea why, but black helicopters.

Being pedantic

OK, maybe pedantic is the wrong word to use in the context of this article....

its not child pornography, its child abuse images! Call it what it is, its not porn which is consenting adults having a screw, its little children as young as babies being raped and abused for the sick pleasure of adults who believe its ok to watch such horrible crap. A child who hasn't even started to grow teeth cannot really consent to such things, and wouldn't do if they could, young 8-10 year olds too scared to say anything as man after man does sick and disgusting things to them.

So please don't call it pornography, call it, as the IWF recommends, child abuse.

@Blah

"I'm an adult that can make my own bloody mind up about what's acceptable to me..."

'Fraid not, fella. In the UK, USA and most of Europe and Australia I'm fairly sure Governments, Police and Advocates have decided what will/will not be permitted to view online. Step just one fraction over the line (knowingly or unknowingly) and you'll find yourself in a world of pain. Our governments treat us with contempt, hiding behind issues of 'child protection' to sneak in law after law slowly eroding public and private freedoms. They have their goal in sight: control of 'teh interwebs' and there is no more foolproof, almost industructable method of achieving that aim than by using children as a cover, as police forces continue to prove in courts up and down this land (and most others), day after day.

I grow tired of asking: who will argue with them? If people just stopped for a moment to consider what is being done to personal liberties, the abuses of law and the sheer folly involved, all in the name of 'child protection'...

my my

I just want my internet !!

Can everybody please just leave it alone !!!

I want to go back to trawling ftp sites back in 1999 !!!

@ "Pedantic" AC

You don't know what you're talking about. Maybe you should consider whether IWF is unbiased before you swallow their line (to say nothing of hook and sinker). They call it "child abuse images" and tell you it consists of babies being raped because they know that angle sells better.

In reality child abuse has nothing to do with it. Obviously some images like that exist, but the law doesn't stop there, and neither does the IWF. The real standard is much, much lower: Indecency. Nudity alone isn't enough (or strictly speaking, necessary) but combine it with a funny camera angle or anything that could be interpreted as a suggestive pose and that's all it takes. And of course the kid could be running around perfectly happy at a nudist resort or what have you and that would have no bearing on it.

Calling that child abuse is nonsense. Calling it porn isn't accurate either, but slightly closer to the truth, because in practice, the test is whether a pedophile, real or imagined, will find the picture erotic. There also exists a category of images which could accurately be called pornographic, but not abusive. See here:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/16/kid_pic_prosecutions/

But "indecent images of children" just doesn't have quite the same impact as "child abuse images", does it? But hey, thanks to the IWF you can see for yourself what one of these "child abuse images" looks like. Remember, even though they unblocked it, the IWF maintains that this picture is "potentially illegal", so look at your own risk.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Killer