Unless the US suddenly provides investment for these probably-not-profitable remote areas then I can see this 90 day reprieve will be extended again, and again until funds are provided to replace kit. Telco’s don’t like spending money on quiet little towns.
American telcos get 90 days to wrap up deals with, er, dangerous Chinese supplier – that's Huawei the news goes
US telcos will be able to continue doing business with Huawei for the time being. This after the US Department of Commerce issued a 90-day extension on the Temporary General License (TGL) order that lets companies continue to work with Huawei under certain circumstances. The TGL order, first posted in May of this year, had …
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Tuesday 19th November 2019 11:49 GMT Dave314159ggggdffsdds
I haven't seen any evidence Huawei have actually been doing anything naughty, but the potential problem is real. China is a totalitarian regime, and the government can secretly force otherwise independent businesses to do things they don't want to. That is a serious security issue when those businesses are selling things like telecoms backbones.
On the whole it doesn't present insoluble difficulties to design acceptance criteria to deal with the risk, and having those might well help keep tabs on other suppliers too.
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Tuesday 19th November 2019 21:54 GMT K
Re: Spooks
I'll play this game with you - lets looks at the options, their choices are:
A) Take moral stance, and refuse to co-operate
B) Drop panties when Uncle Sam flashes a few billions dollars at them
Now, Go and search for "Jedi Contract"... If you choose anything other than "B", you're incorrect.
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Wednesday 20th November 2019 15:14 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Spooks
US companies challenged the US government in court several times.
How many Chinese companies could just think about it, and how long it takes for their executives to be executed?
I really wish you all to find yourself under a real dictatorship, one day. Unless you become the persecutors and executors - which is probably what you dream to become - you'll find that it's not so nice...
Why do you believe people in Hong Kong are risking so much? Probably they value their freedom more than you because they can see they are losing it quickly - and they know how much they can trust Chinese government promises.
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Tuesday 19th November 2019 13:03 GMT batfink
I think you'll also find that the western nations have been forcing companies to bend to their security forces' wills for some time. And at the same time preventing them from talking about it.
MS etc have been (indirectly) moaning about this coercion for a while now.
So no, this isn't just a problem in totalitarian states.
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Tuesday 19th November 2019 19:23 GMT martinusher
China is a totalitarian regime?
I suppose its quite easy to get 1.3 billion people to all march in lock step.....
Seriously, though, its not the equipment that poses a problem but how its configured and used. I know that we are used to running our personal kit with software that's doing Heaven only knows what with the hardware (in the furtherance of 'enhanced consumer experience' and 'monetizing websites') but in the professional world people like to have rather more control over what their kit is doing.
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Tuesday 19th November 2019 08:19 GMT Barry Rueger
Meng Wanzhou
Don't forget that Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou is still under house arrest in Vancouver while fighting a rather sketchy US arrest warrant.
I recommend our local CBC outlet's excellent podcast Sanctioned: The Arrest of a Telecom Giant. Nine episodes to date, and more to come as the case progresses
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Tuesday 19th November 2019 10:45 GMT Anonymous Coward
"to be ignored on this point by actually democratic countries"
Some of them, i.e. Germany, are actually more worried about their lucrative exports to China if they say anything China doesn't like... democracy has very little to do with this all.
The same reason why they are very soft with Poland and Hungary - they need European low-wages areas.
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Tuesday 19th November 2019 20:14 GMT IGotOut
Re: "to be ignored on this point by actually democratic countries"
Not sure where you heard that l, but it's Germany that's been pressing for sanctions against Hungary and Poland.
"BERLIN (Reuters) - German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas said on Thursday the European Union should cut funding and impose sanctions on members which pass laws that contravene core EU principles.....countries like Romania, Hungary and Poland received more EU funding than they provided, so curtailing that could provide important leverage. "
Source
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-europe-sanctions/german-minister-urges-sanctions-on-eu-members-flouting-principles-idUSKCN1R22PV
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Wednesday 20th November 2019 15:07 GMT Anonymous Coward
"Germany that's been pressing for sanctions against Hungary and Poland."
Still Merkel is very cozy with Orban, didn't push Fidesz out of the European People Party, just suspended it - it's just theater, they had to show something, but actually Orban knows it can keep on unchallenged. And Fidesz voted for Ursula von der Leyen....
Germany gave six billions from EU to Turkey to stop immigrants through the Balkan route towards Hungary, and utterly ignored those coming through the Mediterranean to Greece and Italy.
BMW is opening a new plant in Hungary, despite the unemployment rate in East Germany and the raise of AfD.
https://hipa.hu/construction-works-of-the-bmw-plant-are-about-to-start-in-debrecen
Germany economy is sustained by exports, they won't do anything that could lead the Chinese government t to hit those exports - especially now their automotive sector is not going well - and being China a non-democratic country, companies will bend to the government will immediately.
"Not sure where you heard that"
European press, i.e. "Corriere della Sera" in Italy - which is not an anti-European Germanophobe populist paper.
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