Something about Antivirus software
Makes anyone associated with it crazy.
McAfee – the completely sane guy, not the biz – told to fork out $25m over 'torture, murder' of his Belize neighbor
John McAfee has been ordered to cough up $25m for the wrongful death of Gregory Faull, his former neighbor in Belize, but refuses to pay and claims he has no assets. The decision [PDF] by a US federal district judge in Florida was entered by default after former antivirus baron McAfee refused to respond to the lawsuit, brought …
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Thursday 21st March 2019 06:29 GMT Allan George Dyer
Re: Something about Antivirus software
Huh, don't believe it. I'm perfectly sane.
Seriously, why does John McAfee still get tagged as an antivirus guy? He resigned from McAfee Associates in 1994, so that's a quarter century. As for making people crazy, he was pretty unstable all along, from the accounts of him pulling out his gun during business meetings.
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Thursday 21st March 2019 08:59 GMT Dave 126
Re: Something about Antivirus software
> Seriously, why does John McAfee still get tagged as an antivirus guy?
It seems to be a shorthand that an individual is noted for what first made their name unless they've achieved something bigger since. So Steve Wozniak is still referred to as Apples co-founder, whereas Elon Musk is known as that Tesla or SpaceX guy and not PayPal's co-founder. Just a theory.
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Thursday 21st March 2019 10:17 GMT Allan George Dyer
Re: Something about Antivirus software
@Dave 126 - "unless they've achieved something bigger"
I tend to agree, but it doesn't have to be a positive achievement. In this case, I argue his achievements in bat-shit craziness have far outstripped his short founding role in the antivirus area.
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Thursday 21st March 2019 12:32 GMT Arthur the cat
Re: Something about Antivirus software
In this case, I argue his achievements in bat-shit craziness have far outstripped his short founding role in the antivirus area.
Agreed, but most people aren't going to refer to him as "the bat-shit crazy guy, McAfee" in case of libel suits (or something worse involving Tasered genitals).
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Thursday 21st March 2019 12:54 GMT Korev
Re: Something about Antivirus software
He was a on the board of ZoneAlarm a few years ago. Wikipedia suggests he's had more recent ventures too.
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Thursday 21st March 2019 00:11 GMT Anonymous Coward
Both in the wrong tbh
Faull for poisoning someone's dogs rather than leaving to the authorities and IF McAfee did it (has never been tried and convicted in criminal court yet he;s wrong for having the bloke tortured and killed.
HOWEVER poison the dog of an average dog owner, then I'd wager many would at least mull over the potential to do similar / take passive aggressive vengeance (keying car, gluing locks shut, leaving bricks lying around so ne'er do wells could chuck them through your windows etc....)
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Thursday 21st March 2019 05:47 GMT JLV
Re: Both in the wrong tbh
>average dog owner
More and more the “average dog owner” is literally incapable of controlling his or her $3000 designer “fur baby”. Like when one poodle started heavily barking towards another in our elevator and the owner didn’t peep a word to calm it down.
My kids are always surprised when I act friendly towards real dogs (i.e. mutts) in the countryside rather than the yapping fashion accessory chihuahuas, pugs and sundry that are becoming the norm in big cities.
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Thursday 21st March 2019 09:04 GMT Dave 126
Re: Both in the wrong tbh
I don't mistreat the pugs but I look at their owners with contempt for supporting the breeding of unhealthy animals. Some breeds have have difficulty breathing just to appeal to the aesthetic sense of idiots.
Mutts or carefully bred (i.e not inbred) working breeds are fine.
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Thursday 21st March 2019 11:03 GMT CrazyOldCatMan
Re: Both in the wrong tbh
Some breeds have have difficulty breathing
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And I blame the Kennel/Cat Clubs for mandating and enforcing breed standards - which lead to deformed, inbred freaks rather than healthy dogs. As an example - a lot of modern Dachsunds, if not bred on their first season (before the pelvis has fully ossified), have to have cesarians in order to deliver the pups since they have been specifically bred to be longer and longer - which has damaged the breed viability as a whole.
And don't get me started on the whole 'designer breed' thing. Breeding cats with dachsund-style legs is *not* a good thing - it's an abomination.
Give me a crossbreed[1] mutt any time.
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[1] Or Jack Russels - they started of as crossbreed mutts anyway and the gene pool is big enough to keep them healthy. And if I were to get a GSD now, it sure as hell wouldn't be a British one - I'd go to Germany where they don't insist on having the stupid arch in the back and rear hips much lower than the front. Nice straight backs, healthy dogs.
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Thursday 21st March 2019 15:57 GMT JLV
Re: Both in the wrong tbh
This.
Friend of mine got a purebred. Lived to 18 months, most of it starving, due to some canine version of Crohn’s, common in that breed. He’s quite proud of his 12 yr old second dog being a mutt.
There’s a reason even primitive humans have extremely strong taboos about incest and inbreeding. Some pure bred dogs live about 2 yrs less on average due to inherited defects. If you’re a dog lover, might wanna consider that beforehand - animals are not toys.
Along with overfeeding Fido.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6115627/
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Thursday 21st March 2019 09:34 GMT Dabooka
Re: Both in the wrong tbh
I think he gets that dogs bark, it mire the yapping of little bags fo fur that are seen as essential along with rose gold iPhones and boggo Audi A3 1.4 diesels with 'S-Line' badges.
I'm of the same opinion. I like dogs that do what dogs do, paired up with owners that understand a) their pet and b) that not everyone else necessarily appreciates them. Expecting me to indulge in their decision to not control, train or restrain (when needed) is not really on.
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Thursday 21st March 2019 14:48 GMT Eddy Ito
Re: Both in the wrong tbh
It's not aggression. He wags his tail and barks.
Thing is that never passes with cops, they'll always shoot the dog on spec. They've even been known to shoot dogs that have been locked in a cage because it's the easiest thing to do. For that matter, cops and dogs don't mix at all, cops are just too trigger happy.
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Thursday 21st March 2019 10:56 GMT CrazyOldCatMan
Re: Both in the wrong tbh
chihuahuas, pugs and sundry
They are all still dogs and will respond in (largely) the same way as bigger dogs. And they are still 'real' dogs - it's not their fault that they are owned by shallow, vapid owners who see them as fashion accessories.
Much like staffies - we've had a couple of half-staffies now and a more loyal dog you could never find. It's a real shame that, at the moment, they seem to be the 'hard nut dog of choice' (much like Rotties[1] were a while back) and owned by people who think it's amusing to give them minimal training - and most of that is in aggression.
Blame the owners, not the dogs.
[1] Our first dog[2] was a GSD-Rottie cross rescue (got at 3 months old). The most laid-back and unaggressive dog I've ever had. Then when he was 9 months old, we got a dobie-rottie cross to keep him company. In every matter apart from food, she ruled him with a paw of iron and he loved it. Then we inherited MiL's staffie-JR cross and miniture dachshund when she shuffled off. The one most likely to bite was the dachshund..
[2] I grew up with Boxer dogs. Wonderful dogs but somewhat exhausing to keep up with.. Like Staffies, they have a very stong protective drive.
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Monday 25th March 2019 13:18 GMT Anonymous Crowbar
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I am not a dog guy. Actually I pretty much disliked dogs for a long time.
That is until my housemate got a Staffie. Pure bred. And she is one of the most relaxed, laid back animal I have ever met. She never barks, unless it as birds, or Nemesis [A dog across the road, that barks a lot. Seems she is sick of him :P]
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Thursday 21st March 2019 08:48 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: just a fine
Not even that - at least not in UK law (I can't understand US law it seems to be at the whim of the Judge of the day), but I suspect the sentiment is the same. I.e. in a civil case it is just balance of probabilities (usually best lawyer's arguments) whereas in criminal it is much higher and is presumed innocent unless they can be found guilty 'beyond reasonable doubt' - any doubt that they might not be guilty that is reasonable means they remain innocent.
The fact that if you don't defend means you automatically lose in a civil case also points more towards guilty (or at least liable) unless you can convince otherwise.
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Friday 22nd March 2019 18:23 GMT sisk
I don't get it... why if he's guilty isn't there jail time but just a fine?
It's not a fine. Wrongful death is a civil case, not a criminal one. The money won't be going to the government but to the plaintiffs of the case.
Also, there's no burden of proof in civil cases, and even if there were it wouldn't matter in this particular case because he didn't bother to show up to the court date. If you don't show up to a civil court date in the US you lose. That simple.That's what they mean by a default judgement.
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Thursday 21st March 2019 12:04 GMT Robert Helpmann??
What's in a Name
A few years ago, I designed and deployed a McAfee ePolicy Orchestrator module for a customer whose contract I was on. I wanted to title it "John" but had to go with something more prosaic. Lesson learned. I will use "John" as the internal name for anything of this nature I write so it will live on in the code even if the display name is different.
Biting the hand that feeds IT
