What ?
>I went to Transitive, and speculated either Intel or IBM had their hand in. Its clever stuff, but
> really falls far short of buying new Sun kit (and lets face it, a low end Niagara box is cheaper
>than a QuickTransit license to run some old app on an E4500).
Well I would clearly rather run things natively on Solaris rather than having them emulated on some other platform. That should be a nobrainer. But, Solaris and AIX both being POSIX 'nice guys' then a port might be easy enough.
And if we are talking something like running SAP, Oracle, DB2 etc then the problem should be that big.
>Run it natively you loser, and if your app isn't available for AIX remind yourself its because you're
>running a second tier OS in the eyes of most vendors! If you desperately wanted off Sun,
>I guess its an option - although the idea of running Solaris apps on IBM's gimp masked AIX
>really makes my skin crawl.
Well calling AIX a second tier OS is bull, and you should know it.
If you want to know why many software vendors will try to sweet talk you into running their app on Solaris then check out what they will be charging you in licenses fee. This includes IBM's own software sales people. They all love Solaris, even more than Windows.
I mean just running Oracle on a T5140 is bloody is 285KUSD for the Enterprise edition in list price.
>It really really really depends what you are doing and how you measure it, there are lies,
>damned lies and benchmarks.... Power6 @ 4Ghz is certainly not faster than a 3Ghz Xeon and
>is substantially more expensive and power hungry.
What are you talking about ? When pointing a finger at someone, there are always three fingers pointing back at yourself. Lets take a benchmark where the results are actually used for input to RL sizing data, SAP.
http://www.sap.com/solutions/benchmark/sd3tier.epx
JS12 with 1 chip with 2 cores POWER6 at 3.8GHz 35160 SAPS per Core.
bl680c with4 chip with 4 cores Xeon @2.4 GHz 10638 SAPS per Core
Now if we correct for going to 6 cores per chip on SAP we get
bl680c with 4 chips with 6 cores Xeon @2.4GHz 8963 SAPS per Core
Now if I want to do 70K saps I need a js12 with one chip and I need a two chip bl680c
Now the BL680c costs somewhere between 10319$ and 11.839 $:
http://h71016.www7.hp.com/dstore/ctoBases.asp?oi=E9CED&BEID=19701&SBLID=&ProductLineId=431&FamilyId=2063&LowBaseId=&LowPrice=&familyviewgroup=1454&viewtype=Matrix&Matrix=
The js12 in a similar configuration is 4687$:
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/bladecenter/hardware/servers/js12/browse.html
So it's cheaper. And no matter how you try to do your calculations, then one POWER6 is not producing more heat than 2 Xeon chips.
// Jesper