Kettle, black courtesy phone
While they are undoubtedly correct - how many Chinese government contracts have gone to US firms?
Huawei has told an Australian parliamentary committee it believes national security is sometimes being used to hide protectionist trade policies. The Chinese comms gear giant made the comments to the Joint Standing Committee on Trade and Investment Growth, which is conducting an inquiry into trade and the digital economy. US …
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"Huawei has told an Australian parliamentary committee it believes national security is sometimes being used to hide protectionist trade policies."
As you imply, Huawei's statement clearly applies to China's own policies more than any other country in the world.
Odd, given both GCHQ and NSA have both extensively looked at the kit and neither found any evidence of spyware.
Yet day in, day out, US hardware and software are found to have holes (some deliberate) so big you can drive a bus through them
How do you explain the completely different UK and US positions on use of Huawei equipment in broadband networks?Because the UK has no significant networking vendors to protect, and because they and Huawei were willing to go the extra mile to demonstrate the absence of backdoors. And BTW Cisco has sold a lot of kit in China, with features required by the Chinese government. So the American position is unfair as well as anti-competitive. The Australian position is incomprehensible, so is presumably just a matter of sucking up to the Americans.
So I don't really understand where's the real complaint here.
I suspect the issue is that locking out Chinese companies usually hands the business over to competitors who, via FISA courts and other measures, are under the direct control of a country with a proven track record of spying on allies at the highest level.
That being the case, measures genuinely based on National Security would ban all Cisco (etc.) equipment and the fact that they don't implies that the real motivation is finding a way to disingenuously bypass international trade agreements and divert cash into the pockets of companies and shareholders in a position to feather political nests.
> [ ... ] locking out Chinese companies usually hands the business over to competitors [ ... ] are under the direct control of a country with a proven track record of spying on allies [ ... ]
Yes, and that is entirely under the US and/or the Five Eyes countries' remit.
Australia is 100% OK with NSA's SIGINT activities, as they are part of the Five Eyes agreement. The US is 100% OK with NSA's and GCHQ's SIGINT activities as a matter of law + Five Eyes agreement.
It's really up to each of the Five Eyes countries to define what National Security means to them. It looks like Chinese SIGINT isn't part of it. We want to keep it in the family.
Let's not transform China's own interests in SIGINT into some noble civil rights cause, or some principled anti-protectionist protest, because their real motivation isn't either of these, regardless of the shiny wrapper that is being used as disguise.
Australia is 100% OK with NSA's SIGINT activities, as they are part of the Five Eyes agreement. The US is 100% OK with NSA's and GCHQ's SIGINT activities as a matter of law + Five Eyes agreement.
I agree. It is entirely possible that they want to push business towards American equipment to ensure that agreed backdoors and cryptographic flaws are present and that the privacy of Australian citizens is not inadvertently enhanced ;)
Its a little hypocritical to make the US or China out to be the bad guy for spying. The truth is we all spy on each other. The US spies on every country in the world and every county in the world spies on them. we shake hands and pretend to be friends but deep down, it is our own countries interests first. we may have common interests, goals and even common enemies. However when it come down to it, it is every country for itself. sure their are incident like the US spying on Merkel, but they just got caught with their had in the cookie jar and Germany is using it as the opportunity to score political points. I am pretty sure that Merkels administration spied on the Obama administration. I would bet my entire paycheck that they are currently spying on the Trump administration, along with everyone else. My point is we are all friends here, but we have political and ideological differences, having the siginit for negotiating with ones allies and enemies could be the difference between success and failure so I don't see anything wrong with it.
El Reg commentards could have told you that, probably for round about as long as El Reg has existed.
Though it's got worse during that time due to geopolitical and geoeconomic events: in this case the rise of world-class Chinese giants like Huawei. If the rise of Japan half a century ago is anything to go by, this backdoor protectionism could be part of something uglier.
Their kit works well, and is in many people's homes already. BT Openreach routers and Huawei mobile phones already have broken into the market.
What's the real difference between things made for US companies in China and made for Chinese companies in China? As is written above, the code has been inspected by the likes of GCHQ and found to be without a problem.
So let me get this straight, national security is not protectionism, wait what. 'ER' yes, the way governments will national secure their digital infrastructure is to ensure that as much of it as possible is produced locally and not under the control of foreign corporations in turn controlled by foreign governments.
If I want a secure safe to put my stuff, I do not contract out the decision for the combination number to a contractor in another country, I come up with one myself.
If you want your digital infrastructure to be as secure as possible, than you have to create as much of it as you can yourself, simply fact of life. So yes that means Free Open Source Software as the proper software model and open electronics design and local plants for high use electronic parts, especially covering communications for what should be self evident reasons but apparently are not.
It's also a simple fact of life that few people actually have skills to do it themselves properly. Meaning you're forced into trusting someone in a world where few can be trusted. Very shaky ground there, especially if you're SO paranoid you're in DTA Mode.