The first R rate trek film. Are they going to use the N word? is Samuel L Jackson going to be in the film ?
Quentin Tarantino in talks to make Star Trek movie
Entertainment publication Deadline Hollywood has reported that cinematic enfant terrible Quentin Tarantino has pitched an idea for a new Star Trek film. Deadline's quoted sources who said Tarantino “has come up with a great idea” for a new instalment set in the re-booted Trek universe. JJ Abrams, who launched the re-boot, may …
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Tuesday 5th December 2017 08:23 GMT Chris G
@ kain preacher.
My first thought for casting was Samuel Jackson as the baddie plusJohn Travolta as the skipper, Wesley Snipes and Michael Jay White as Klingon warriors,Hugh Laurie as the doctor and Eddie Izzard as a Vulcan.
A new voyage looking for psychedelic substances to expand the Galaxy's mind while killing aliens in green blood spurting slomo.
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Tuesday 5th December 2017 10:53 GMT MyffyW
I'd pay to see Peter Capaldi reprising his Malcolm Tucker role aboard the TNG-era Enterprise:
"Ferengi! More like Snow White does seven dwarves. Rules of f#cking acquisition you say? Have you and Dick Twattington f#cked all the I's and fisted all the T's on the latest Private Finance Initiative?"
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Tuesday 5th December 2017 23:59 GMT Blake St. Claire
> Dr. Who + Star Trek crossover. Heh.
No, not really what I had in mind. More for having a laugh at the expense of the culturally ignorant over on this side of the pond; who don't or won't get the joke.
> With plenty of hookers. and blackjack. and Daleks.
Hookers and blow: good. Daleks: bad. See above.
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Wednesday 6th December 2017 13:13 GMT acid andy
"My first thought for casting was Samuel Jackson as the baddie plusJohn Travolta as the skipper,"
No, has to be Kiefer Sutherland for Captain. He was born for it. He even looks quite a bit like Shatner did (strangely they're both Canadian as well). And he'd pull off the cold, violent Trek that would surely result.
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Tuesday 5th December 2017 11:58 GMT The Man Who Fell To Earth
The recents Treks are crap. So he can't make the franchise worse.
The recent Treks (movies & TV) are just crappy run-of-the-mill action flicks, rather than character driven. So Tarantino making a Pulp Trek or Kill Bill Trek really would not be new. About the only "new" thing he could add would be the n-word, a Ferengi Unchained perhaps.
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Tuesday 5th December 2017 08:14 GMT Jason Hindle
Well Discovery has the occasional swearing
And other things that might look out of place in the usually quite wholesome federation. I'm told hardcore Trekkies hate it...
For a Tarantino movie to work, it would have to have Jackson in it (and perhaps an infestation of some kind of poisonous space snake). "Pass me my phaser. It's the one with bad mother------ written on it".
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Tuesday 5th December 2017 08:47 GMT Dan 55
Re: Well Discovery has the occasional swearing
I don't even consider myself a hardcore Trekkie, but do you know why hardcore Trekkies hate Discovery? Because until then it had an optimistic vision of the future. Even Seth MacFarlain's effort is better to watch than Discovery.
Star Trek: Discovery could have done well enough if it were called something else and not trying to fit into a universe it's not made for.
And if Tarantino gets to make a ST film then we might as well stick a fork in Star Trek because it's done.
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Tuesday 5th December 2017 12:53 GMT Brewster's Angle Grinder
Re: Well Discovery has the occasional swearing
"Because until then it had an optimistic vision of the future."
I admit, I was calling it Star Trek: Doom for a while. (That, I would have watched. But they didn't stick with it.) But if you think Discovery is pessimistic you need to meet a real pessimist. And I think it might settle into something more closely resembling the original series when it resumes -- Lorca is about as close as we've come to Kirk; his ambition is more naked and he lacks self depreciating wit, but take him out the war and who knows.
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Tuesday 5th December 2017 17:23 GMT JohnFen
Re: Well Discovery has the occasional swearing
"And if Tarantino gets to make a ST film then we might as well stick a fork in Star Trek because it's done."
Personally, I think Star Trek has already hit that point a couple of movies ago. Tarantino can't kill a corpse. Maybe he can't resuscitate it either, but it might be worth a shot.
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Tuesday 5th December 2017 22:10 GMT Captain DaFt
Re: Well Discovery has the occasional swearing
Maybe he can't resuscitate it either, but it might be worth a shot.
I actually think it might work iffff:
It's not about the Federation.
IMHO Tarantino would be an excellent choice as director for a Star Trek movie focusing on the Klingon Empire and its interactions with other species.
It's a big galaxy out there, the Federation can't be everywhere for cryin' out loud!
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Tuesday 5th December 2017 19:38 GMT Mark 85
Re: Well Discovery has the occasional swearing
And if Tarantino gets to make a ST film then we might as well stick a fork in Star Trek because it's done.
Since Roddenberry died, the creativity and standards are gone. Corporate execs now run things and that just means one thing... they want profit no matter what. So they'll grab anything they can that has "Star Trek" in the title. So yes, ST was done some time ago but didn't know it.
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Wednesday 6th December 2017 08:00 GMT Dan 55
Re: Well Discovery has the occasional swearing
Yes, I watched B5 and DS9/Voyager alongside each other back in the day.
They were both different visions of the future, I liked them both, and nobody tried to make another series set in their universes which was so out of place it was jarring... until now of course.
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Tuesday 5th December 2017 08:50 GMT Anonymous Coward
@Jason
"For a Tarantino movie to work, it would have to have Jackson in it (and perhaps an infestation of some kind of poisonous space snake)."
Don't forget the non-linear timeframes. It needs to jump back and forth so many times that eventually you'll stop paying attention to the movie and more so to figuring out when the stuff you're watching happened.
I first saw this in Kill Bill and I thought it was different. Then I saw Sin City and well, it got boring ;)
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Tuesday 5th December 2017 18:52 GMT bombastic bob
Re: @Jason
Kill Bill - the whole 'O-ren' sequence. And Lucy Liu. Yum! Throw in some animation to tell the back story.
/me wonders if Lucy Liu would make a good Romulan... one who'd been repeatedly abused by the Klingons since she was 10 years old, and by the time she was 12, she'd killed over 1,000 of them (and eaten their livers, with some fava beans and a nice chianti).
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Thursday 7th December 2017 19:34 GMT DJSpuddyLizard
Re: Well Discovery has the occasional swearing
it may have been better had it not tried to fit into the Startrek universe but as it is it's just a terrible mismatch with poor acting and plot.
Wait a minute.... are you suggesting Trek usually has good acting and plot?
What strange alternative universe are you from?
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Tuesday 5th December 2017 15:47 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Well Discovery has the occasional swearing
I like Discovery, It's good and if you haven't watched it all then please keep your opinion to yourself, if you have then your opinion is valid.
I think what people fail to understand is that the world changes, people change, the way TV and Film is done over the years changes (lens flare...)
I take myself as an example, I've enjoyed all the star trek series and even the reboot. I remember when next generation first came out and people hated it but by the end everyone was fine with it.
My favourite start trek is Voyager, lets take that apart, I grew up watching dungeons and dragons and Ulysses 31 so the narrative aligned with those.
Everything changes, deal with it and just enjoy the narrative without trying to compare it to something from your own era.
This is of course my own opinion, feel free to have your own.
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Tuesday 5th December 2017 10:08 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: YEAH! DO IT M*THERF&CKER!!!
If you read the article, Jar Jar Abrams is still in the loop. Don't know if they are still paid by Disney to destroy Star Trek so thoroughly to ensure only Star Wars hangs around.
I stopped watching ST after "First Contact" - it was clear it was taking a direction to appease a public who wants zombies and phasers blasting around. Not surprised now they may want Tarantino to show what a bat'leth could actually do...
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Tuesday 5th December 2017 08:46 GMT AndrueC
I double dare you m*therf*cker
I believe that what Kirk actually shouted at that motorist was "Double dumbass on you". But I'll grant that your version adds a certain edge to the dialogue that was somewhat lacking in Star Trek IV:The Voyage Home
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Tuesday 5th December 2017 09:42 GMT Teiwaz
Point missed
I double dare you m*therf*cker
I believe that what Kirk actually shouted at that motorist was "Double dumbass on you". But I'll grant that your version adds a certain edge to the dialogue that was somewhat lacking in Star Trek IV:The Voyage Home
I've not watched that movie in a decade, but I think part of it was Kirk considered himself more familiar with the period he found himself in, certainly more than Spock, but he didn't know how to use the 'colourful language' in the parlance of the time either....
The [even] more 'colourful language' is fine, but he'd have to get swearing wrong for the original joke to not be missed in the eagerness to get more sweary....
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Tuesday 5th December 2017 19:03 GMT bombastic bob
Re: Point missed
"Kirk considered himself more familiar with the period he found himself in, certainly more than Spock"
Spok has a good excuse. After all, Spok had done "a little too much LDS" back in the 60's.
/me grabbing coat, now
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Thursday 14th December 2017 10:09 GMT Mooseman
"I don't think that matters anymore - your career is doomed if someone 'higher' than you points a finger at you. Then the media-machine takes over and no-one will ever admit to liking your work even if acquitted."
It's not new, sadly. Remember what happened to "Fatty" Arbuckle? this is the age of trial by media apparently - sense and justice are cast aside. IF he is found guilty then fine, throw the book at him, but he has to be found guilty of more than accusation and rumour.
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Wednesday 6th December 2017 18:08 GMT John Brown (no body)
Re: Ins't it time for this franchise to be put down?
"Probably, when you can't come up with any good idea. But Hollywood is so empty of good ideas today it's beating any old successful ones to death, and beyond..."
And yet, when it comes to SF and Fantasy at least, there is such a range of books, stories and series out there that, with current CGI, are now doable. But no, Hollywood want's to stick to the same old franchises, again and again. And again!
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Tuesday 5th December 2017 19:11 GMT bombastic bob
Re: Final Nail in the coffin as it were
You have to laugh as they take everything you grew up with and tear it to shreds...
It's rule 99. It *must* be so!
"Even if it canNOT be re-written, made darker and edgier, get crammed full of unnecessary profanity and sexuality and/or become politically charged, and THEN get re-re-released, tailored SPECIFICALLY for the latest generation under 20-something, it WILL be... it WILL be!"
(yeah I just made that one up)
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Tuesday 5th December 2017 16:28 GMT Alan W. Rateliff, II
Time traveling script writing
If they boldly go where no writing team has gone before and produce an edgy Trek capable of attracting the top-shelf actors Tarantino often secures, thereby breaking out of the SciFi ghetto, it will be an achievement to rank with Mr Scot's time-travelling invention of transparent aluminium.
My first thought was, yeah, time traveling BACK in time, but that was quickly thrown away as inaccurate. See, there was a better time for movies. A time when Hollywood would not think about taking timeless classics, stuffing them in anyone's mouth who had a name, letting them chew on it, then serving up whatever got spit out.
It was "edgy" when Data said "oh, shit" as the Enterprise began its uncontrolled fall toward a planet. Even Counselor Troi's outfits pushed the limits (with nipples at least once.)
But F-bombs in Star Trek and all the touchy-feely dreck which has infected the franchise of late does not seem to have an edge to me. It seems like reaching low into the barrel of shock value to remain relevant when you already have something well before its time. This lacks edge, more like a blunt end. Perhaps SNL skits or Family Guy cut-aways, but not Star Trek cannon.
I also cannot buy into this "SciFi ghetto" thing, either. There is some "edgy" SciFi, at least for its day, out there, already, which never managed to "break out." Tarantino may be able to make something which falls under a sub-genre, his own corner of the SciFi universe, but to create SciFi which breaks out of SciFi is not SciFi.
If Tarantino gets the helm I will observe the way I have done with STD (snigger): catch bits and pieces on YouTube and see if anything piques my interest. Thus far, while I could mark it a little above average on story line, technology, and effects, it does not feel like Star Trek but more like its own stand-alone show.
inb4 "old fart" "cranky grampa" "out of touch" "unhip"
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