Drones thrown a bone: Americans can ask nicely to go where FAA says they can't roam

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@Stu4, like that octocopter that nearly took out a skier a while back? Or the numerous other incidents involving "professional pilots" using "professional equipment"?

I'm a pilot, I know the rules and regulations I have to follow, one of them avoiding getting myself into any situation where I can not avoid potentially hitting people if something goes wrong. Like flying low over built up areas.

For some systems on multirotor aircraft there is NO redundancy, even on the so called professional level units the control unit is just a single unit. Motor-controllers are starting to get integrated into a single package. There's only a single battery aboard, using a single battery protection circuit that can cut battery output if it thinks the battery might get damaged. Yes, an octocopter can still fly with one motor out, possibly with 2 out, depending which. But what kind of failure is going to lead to only a single drive unit failing in flight? Only a very small sub-set of them. To get a shot of a group of people, most of the time a simple large pole does the job just fine. If you really need more flexibility or height, there is still no need to fly a drone directly OVER people.

Keep distance and maintain margins for errors from yourself, your hardware or other people. You know, like you get drilled into you when you start learning to safely operate an aircraft.

Re: Stop it!

I assume the range is private property? Then do what you want, crash your drone into your cattle, start a stampede, whatever. These laws are about what you can do in public.

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I think part of the concern is that a drone being flown outside of line of sight may not have cameras good enough to see and avoid other air traffic. Obviously this probably isn't a concern if you're flying at six feet, but if you're flying at six hundred feet and your camera is pointed down, you're probably not going to be able to avoid an approaching helicopter.

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I want progress. I fly quadcopters myself. I'm not being hysteric. I know a plane flying directly over a city has very few failure modes that leave it suddenly plummeting straight down. (Though for instance the El Al flight 1862 incident shows that there is still some risk in unusual situations). Also, air traffic over cities is still restricted and avoided where/when possible.

Manned aircraft and helicopters remain controllable and landable for most failure modes involved the power systems. "Drones" have only one way to go. Straight down.

Aviation has a long history of finding the safest way of doing things (as far as practically possible while keeping this workable). People seem to think that somehow the rules that govern a 1200 kg flying thing don't apply to a 1.2 kg flying thing, when in fact many of the same principles can be applied. None of them are hard to grasp. Something like "avoid getting into situations where you can't avoid hitting someone if things go wrong when there are other options" is not rocket science and should be applied.

I'm not saying don't use/fly drones ever. I'm saying be sensible about how, when and where to use them. Overhead of large crowds is just NOT a good idea. Ever. Out of line-of-sight means no way to see and avoid other air traffic and because of limited field of view, limited situational awareness, making it easy to hit something or someone. I'm not saying don't allow it, but don't make allowing it the default. On a 500 square mile ranch with no neighbours, people or airports for miles around it can be allowed below a few hundred feet, but this is only a very limited sub-set of "drone" use. The VAST majority of "drone" flying is still numbnuts with a DJI Phantom making video's or possibly thinking they can imitate Team Blacksheep video's without any sort of planning, preparation or permission.

Name me ONE good benefit for flying a "drone" directly over a large crowd of people. Give me ONE good argument to actually allow it instead of the "it's unfounded fear" strawman. I've given you plenty of reasons why it's a BAD idea. I've not seen one single argument to prove it's a good one.