back to article Find your happy place: Fedora 26 has landed

Fedora 26, released recently, is a welcome update on the already very nice 25. As with Fedora's last couple of releases, there are three major ways to get Fedora 26 – Workstation, Server and Atomic Host. The Workstation release is aimed at desktop users and, by default, will install the GNOME desktop. Server and Atomic Host …

  1. Dazed and Confused

    Happy place

    Oh bugger, when you said it would be a happy place I thought at last systemd was being abandoned.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Happy place

      Don't forget those other piece of RedHat hate

      rpm's (people still go on about rpm hell even though it is mostly a thing of the past)

      and

      the annaconda installer.

      Personally, I don't have a problem with any of them but others do get their knickers in a twist especially about 'systemd'. I've learned to grit my teeth and live with it. I don't think that it will be going away any time soon.

      Fedora is nice but far too bleeding edge for my liking. I prefer CentOS.

      1. Dazed and Confused

        Re: Happy place (off topic)

        I too prefer CentOS, as long as I'm allowed to stay with 6.X then I much prefer the anaconda installer, it does a good job working with servers with mixed disk technologies and setting up multipathing automatically. The RHEL7 anaconda installer isn't as good, The SLES 11 installer is pretty but has a habit of installing the OS on one disk and grub on another and is a pain to control just where grub will end up and the drive order definition, SLES12's installer has abandoned leaving you a nice autoyast.xml file and also stopped using the same UI for the installer and as the autoyast editor which I always thought was the best bit of SUSE. The Debian installer can be a total PITA on servers with different disks attached, I usually end up out at the shell to work out what's going on, thank the lords of the kernel for /sys. Preseeding would be much improved if there was any documentation worth the name, the installer saved a preseeding file for what you've just done and if they'd damn well read the preseeding file at the start of the install so you didn't have to pass options in through the commandline. ARGH!

      2. Orv Silver badge

        Re: Happy place

        I don't really find rpm hell to be any hotter than deb hell. Actually I find yum's dependency solver a lot less likely to decide to reinstall/remove whole subsystems when you pull at a loose thread. If you have to manage a lot of machines Spacewalk Server is also really nice; I'm not sure if Debianbuntu has anything similar to offer.

    2. Destroy All Monsters Silver badge
      Windows

      Re: Happy place

      Grin and bear it.

      It's like the New Deal: A total catasrophe implemented by crazies bringing nothing but pain & destruction that everyone will laud as the best idea ever after some time.

      And truth be told, I am starting to appreciate it as it simpklifies life a lot in certain cases. It is the right direction to take. Not sure whether it is the right way to take it.

      Let's do this. Installing KDE spin now...

      1. Marshalltown

        KDE spin

        I had a major catastrophe of some form with OpenSuSE LEAP 42.2. Initially I suspected a drive failure, that proved not be the problem. I was never able to track down the real problem - KDE, LEAP, ?, ? But the upshot was the system would not boot. It would hang consistently somewhere between the initial boot and the launch of KDE. No amount of tweasling would recover the system. So, I downloaded Fedora 25 KDE spin (on Windows alas), burned a bootable USB stick and installed Fedora 25. Plasma's idiosyncrasies are still irritating - no differentiating virtual desktops with different wall papers - but the system is snappy, runs everything I use, and wonder of wonders, I had actually recently backed up everything but three data files. Now running 26, by and large my impression is that it is solid, and less quirky than OpenSuSE.

    3. PNGuinn
      Thumb Down

      Re: Happy place

      Oh Bugger, Bugger .....

      Still got gerrrgnome AND systemd. Thought you said happy?

  2. Chewi

    LXQt

    I installed F26 with LXQt on a colleague's underpowered laptop. First impressions are good, it's made things a bit nippier compared to F25 with KDE.

  3. herman

    I have one machine that run Fedora. However, I rather prefer the stability of BSD.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Gnome. The DE that makes Windows 10 look great. Still at least it's not as bad as the Anal Retentive Clusterfuck that is KDE

  5. gormful
    Alert

    Haz sad

    How can I find my "happy place" when you just told me that LibreOffice is adding a NotebookBar UI?

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Modularity sounds interesting

    Reminds me of NixOS, which is *extremely* interesting once you get your head around it.

  7. TheElder

    Love the picture

    Du kannst mich am Arsch lecken!

  8. mmaug

    It was a fairly quick update but I've been plagued with frequent GNOME shell crashes on Wayland which terminates my session entirely. At least with Xorg only the window decoration disappears and the then returns without closing my apps; it is much slower however. My machine is 4 years old but has been upgraded with an SSD and extra 8GB of memory, so I really have no desire to buy a new machine. Hopefully and GNOME Shell patch will come thru soon to fix the instability...

  9. Tom 64
    Pint

    Been a user for a while

    Yes it has systemd and yes, it's corporate sponsored, but fedora just works, and works well, especially for developer boxes.

    You really can churn it out and f*#k off early for a pint with fedora.

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Quote: "I generally prefer to run GNOME with Fedora because the overlap of Fedora devs and GNOME devs is such that GNOME is nearly always just about flawless on Fedora"

    *

    While this might be true for Scott Gilbertson, it is absolutely not true for others like me. GNOME 2 was pretty good, and the people who replaced it with GNOME 3 seem (to me) to be completely clueless. That GNOME 3 has improved a little over time only proves that sometimes the clueless manage to acquire half a clue!

    *

    So all the machines in my life are happily running Fedora 26 and XFCE. Excellent!!

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