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In an extraordinary and expansive lawsuit, former CIA and NSA contractor Dennis Montgomery has teamed up with the lawyer who brought down the NSA's mass surveillance operation – Larry Klayman – to sue all the US intelligence services and their former and current heads personally, as well as former president Barack Obama, for …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Got the popcorn!

    ditto.

    1. Youngone Silver badge

      Re: Got the popcorn!

      Oh, yes, get the popcorn.

      What happens if there turns out to actually be some sort of case here, and the various insiders are called to give evidence, and the court finds in Mr. Montgomery's favour?

      It doesn't seem very likely, but these weirdos might just be doing the American people a favour here.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Get your bets in,

    2/1 Car Accident

    5/1 Suicide

    10/1 Murder

    50/1 Terrorist Attack

    100/1 Found dead in his own zipped up duffel bag (Borrowed from MI6 as it's too ludicrous to think anything naughty was going on)

    That's is if they have actual credible evidence.

    1. DanceMan

      Okay, I'll play.

      20/1 Found dead in the passenger seat of his patrol car, with a rifle. Ruled suicide.

      Historical precedent: a Texas Ranger investigating LBJ for corruption.

    2. Flocke Kroes Silver badge

      Credible evidence

      Perhaps, but I would bet that they haven't read it, wouldn't recognise it if they did, and it refers to naughtiness not mentioned in their complaint.

    3. Apprentice of Tokenism
      Big Brother

      Re: Bets

      OK, my money is on this one:

      1.5/1 Household accident - Broke his neck when he fell off a stool while he was cleaning the kitchen window with a napkin (found in his left hand).

  3. dan1980

    I am reminded of Close Encounters of the Third Kind when Richard Dreyfuss's character (Roy) joins a group of folk questioning the authorities about the strange events witnessed and reported.

    In a nice bit of acting, you can see Dreyfuss's face drop and his fervour get replaced with disappointment and resignation as one of his fellow petitioners explains how he "saw bigfoot once".

    The message matters, but the messenger can sometimes matter just as much.

  4. John Smith 19 Gold badge
    Happy

    Does explain the DNI in Congress telling them why he ain't tell them s**t.

    Although classic proxies for such a question would be how man information requests they answered for LEO's like the FBI and DEA and how many people were mentioned in those

    My guess to both questions (if actually answered) would be "quite a lot."

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "as extensively exposed in Playboy"

    Somebody *does* actually read the articles then.

    Or perhaps this was a ploy to get the information into millions of printed copies without being noticed, making it impossible for the conspirators to find and destroy all the evidence.

    1. Orv Silver badge

      Re: "as extensively exposed in Playboy"

      Playboy has actually long been known for their surprisingly deep and high-brow interviews with major cultural and political figures. It's a strange dichotomy. But it does make the existence of a braille version make a bit more sense.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: "as extensively exposed in Playboy"

      to their credit, they publish erotica, not hardcore pornography

      1. Orv Silver badge

        Re: "as extensively exposed in Playboy"

        True. They're not "Hustler".

  6. Valeyard

    what a guy

    The hero we need

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Devil

    Mandatory reference to Solzhenitsyn

    As in In The First Circle.

    Those who read this extraordinary novel will know what I am referring to.

    Yes, in 1968 USSR, landline telephones would click and make weird noises when the KGB would listen in and record the phone call.

    In 2000's US of A, this doesn't happen on cellular or wireless communications. Or landline communications for that matter.

    I should have used the black helicopter icon, but I refuse to do so.

    NSA will not upgrade your smartphone in the middle of the day, so that it's guaranteed you notice. They can easily do this at night, while you're sleeping. If they even have a need to install something on the device, which is highly doubtful.

    Intercepting a wireless communication doesn't require installing spyware on the smartphone, or plugging in wired connectors in some dark basement. And it doesn't cause weird clicking sounds on the line.

    So, Larry, your phone may have rebooted and updated itself in the middle of the day, and may have started making weird clicking sounds, but that's not the NSA listening on your phone calls. It's just your smartphone going bust.

  8. allthecoolshortnamesweretaken

    Bizarre.

    And yet... it's not that he doesn't have a point.

    Yes, we should watch this one. Things might get interesting. I'm counting on El Reg to keep on the ball.

  9. John 104

    "a liberal mainstream media conspiracy to keep the people uninformed and ignorant as their representatives continue to wipe their asses with the Constitution and spit on the graves of the Founders."

    Sounds about right.

    We know that Stingray devices illegally listen in on unwarranted individuals, all in the name of justice of course.

    We know that the various TLA agencies have access to our online computer usage from hard lines, and likely from our cell connections as well. Just in case we might have links to terrorism or something.

    All approved by closed courts with no oversight.

    Mainstream press does very little to call out these violations of civil rights. Lawmakers are in the know and do nothing except pretend to be outraged once in a while and vow that they are going to "Do Something." only, something never happens and we are expected to forget about it in a day or so.

    And these guys are the crazy ones...

    1. Throatwarbler Mangrove Silver badge
      FAIL

      Librul lamestream meedja

      It's remarkable how often the "mainstream" media actually have reported on something that various wingnuts from all parts of the political spectrum claim they haven't. A quick gander through this search, for example, will show that arguably non-mainstream sources such as The Intercept show up in great numbers, but so do a variety of more mainstream sources. If our lawmakers don't do anything about it, it's because the average person is busy being outraged about something else (and there's plenty to be outraged about, as reported in, you guessed it, the mainstream media).

      Just because you're not paying attention doesn't mean it's not happening.

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Hannity is an idiot

    Anything to distract from Trump's troubles I guess.

    This guy suing is an obvious nutter. The FBI may do many things, but I've never heard of them tying someone to a tree! They have handcuffs, and vehicles, surely they'd lock him in the back seat if he didn't sit still for a search of his house. And pretty sure the FBI Director doesn't make promises to investigate stuff to an individual charged with crimes, I guess the voices in his head told him Comey promised.

    Also, if he was serious he should have added to that list president Trump and former president Bush, as the president currently in charge of the illegal spying, and the president in charge when it originated!

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Hannity is an idiot

      as they say, just because you're crazy doesn't mean they aren't out to get you

      Given Snowden, Stingrays, etc. we know he's right, the problem is proving that before a court.

  11. CEHughes

    These are the same 50 hard drives that Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio while under oath said contained junk.

    "Since then, experts hired by the MCSO [Maricopa County Sheriff's Office] have said the hard drives are worthless and do not contain sensitive information."

    "Sargent Anglin [MCSO deputy sheriff] said Montgomery was given deadlines to prove that he had CIA-harvested data. The sergeant got Montgomery an extension on his deadline at one point. But Montgomery never produced, and the offer of immunity apparently lapsed." Stephen Lemons, "Joe Arpaio, Mike Zullo Targeted Judge, Sergeant Testifies" in Phoenix New Times, Saturday October 15, 2015

    In court, the two experts were identified as ex-NSA computer experts Thomas Drake and Kirk Weibe.

  12. rogerthat1945

    All I have learned in law over 30+ years in the Perfidious Albion, is that there is no law; in that there are only 2 groups of people; One group who make plenty of money out of espousing laws, and far more people who don`t, and are punished for not knowing laws, or breaching them for being punished too often. Its why male suicide in the UK is off the charts. Biggest killer of men under 50. QED: The government/Judicial system causes suicide.

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