Verizon is gonna axe its 'unlimited' data hogs

Re: To all the wireless carriers...

@whoseyourdaddy

"Oblivious to the impact to users around you"

I see no indication of that in the post to which you are responding. I do see a view that an advertised 'unlimited' should mean 'without limit', not '200 _anything_ or less'.

It's Verizon (in this case, many others do the same) who seem to care little for either accuracy of language, or acceptance of the possible uses people might make if those people were foolish enough to believe Verizon actually meant what they said.

At least, that's my view of the OP - yours must and should of course be whatever you choose. Sigh...

Re: To all the wireless carriers...

Oblivious to the impact to users around you, too cheap to Netflix through a landline?

Careful on that horse, it's a loooong way down!

There could be a multitude of reasons why someone is using wireless broadband… including availability of fixed-line services or the fact that the person might move around a lot and don't want the hassle of getting a wired service moved from house to house every few months.

Plus, in this era of everything being "delivered" over the Internet… video hire shops are closing up… services like NetFlicks might be the only way to get a bit of entertainment in the caravan on not-so-great-to-be-outside days. Try getting ADSL to one of those!

Re: To all the wireless carriers...

"Unlimited" doesn't mean "infinite"

Right, because infinite means limited.

On means off.

And everyone knows... no means yes.

Re: To all the wireless carriers...

"It's simply infantile to say you're going to ignore contractual details."

It's infantile - or maybe some other word - to advertise "unlimited" without having first worked out what that might mean and whether you'll be able or prepared to deliver it.

If you don't mean it, don't advertise it.

Re: To all the wireless carriers...

> "Unlimited" doesn't mean "infinite",

Absolutely correct.

> it just means there are no pre-set limits.

No, you should have stopped at infinite.

It means that they don't have a limit that you can violate. If you wanted to put a number on it, an ADSL2 line can in theory download 25Mbps. There are 2678400 seconds in a month. There are 8 bits in a byte, so

2678400 * 25 / 8 = 8370 GB per month.

Don't call something with limits unlimited. At its kindest, that is a bait and switch scheme.

Re: To all the wireless carriers...

""Unlimited" doesn't mean "infinite""

synonyms: inexhaustible, limitless, illimitable, boundless, unbounded, immense, vast, great, extensive, immeasurable, incalculable, untold, unfailing, everlasting, INFINITE

Re: To all the wireless carriers...

"Unlimited" doesn't mean "infinite"

It means without limits, and a synomyn in the theosaurus is actually infinite.

"Unlimited" doesn't mean "infinite"

unlimited - not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent.

Clearly unlimited does not mean infinite, but it does mean "without limit or restriction"

Re: To all the wireless carriers...

Half-right. "Unlimited", does not mean infinite. It means there is no limit. It means that you can use the available bandwidth throughout the contract period without limit. Aggregate data transfer will be finite. It is the responsibility of the service provider to provide that data transfer accordingly. It is not the responsibility of the consumer to consider the network load implications.

Contradictory fine print is inherently deception.

Re: Really??

"The future will be in private, long-range, secure digital communication systems that are dirt cheap. Before then, get used to spies and overcharging."

Cheap, fast, reliable. Pick any TWO. Furthermore, ANY communications medium WILL be subject to the sovereign will of the country where the airspace is bound or the cable is laid, and sea cables are useless without someplace where it lands, so guess where the State can still get you?

IOW, if they're on to spies and overcharging, don't expect it to ever go away because sovereignty can trump just about anything: even commerce.

Re: Maths!

Contention is a bit more serious with cell-phones than cable.

200GB is a huge amount for a phone to use - it almost certainly is being used as a Home broadband-type provider.

Even an Uber driver using data for maps wouldn't need that much surely?

And since you can use Netflix for something like the .0.632Mbps on a phone, you would have to watch an awful lot of TV to use it.

Re: Maths!

> Were you involved with the Australian Census?

No you have me confused with someone else. I've been working on an innovative welfare compliance system where we crosshatch tax records, divide a magic number by 26 and assume every fortnight is paid equally then send out the debt collectors.

Re: Semantics of a word

According to the VM Sales Drones the restriction about not running your own webserver still applies.

I had a 'discussion' with one only the other day about it not that I was serious about moving to VM.

200Mb service up my street? Who are they kidding. Even 3g is faster between 3pm-midnight than their shitty co-ax network.

I run a small webserver (CentOS on a NUC) and to be honest, most of the traffic are the 'bots' trying to break into the site or slurp the contents regardless of the settings in 'robots.txt'. As all these seem to originate from the USA or China several people in both countries must seem to think that my site holds nuclear secrets or something equally important but it does not. So spooks, if you... sorry, when you read this post please take note. My webserver does not contain any secrets, porn or subversive/terrorist pages or documents so you can eff off.

Re: Obviously not actually unlimited

Well, at least casinos RESERVE the right to evict unwanted patrons provided the law doesn't prevent them from doing so. They're just like any other public-facing establishment in that regard. Plus they tend to be up-front about it.

Whereas this whole "unlimited" business smacks of False Advertising: something that can be taken to court.