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Microsoft is warning of fake copies of its Security Essentials that if executed will throw a fake blue screen of death, pwn machines, and lead users to technical support scams. Redmond regards the threat dubbed Hicurdismos as a severe threat which compromises PCs typically through bundled software installers and drive-by- …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Speaking of which...

    I have recently seen sites at the top of google search (due to pay-per-click as the "Ad" symbol next to the link helpfully indicates) that I have never heard of peddling "printer drivers" and "updates" from well-known companies for rather unclear reasons.

    Gives the same feeling as that of getting accosted in the street by "helpful" strangers.

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  2. Anon

    Nothing is beyond our reach

    Well, except for finding out who the phone number belongs to and getting the FBI to knock on their door.

  3. AMBxx Silver badge
    Joke

    Alden Pornasdoro

    I bet 90% of his outgoing email ends up in spam.

  4. Dan 55 Silver badge
    Pirate

    fake Security Essentials that throw a fake BSOD, pwn machines, and lead users to support scams

    Well it could be worse, It could be like Shut Up and Dance in Black Mirror.

    1. anthonyhegedus Silver badge

      Re: fake Security Essentials that throw a fake BSOD, pwn machines, and lead users to support scams

      I saw that last night... brilliant!

      There's already malware that threatens to put your personal files on the public web. How long before do-gooders try to out child pornography viewers I wonder?

      1. Alumoi Silver badge
        Holmes

        Re: fake Security Essentials that throw a fake BSOD, pwn machines, and lead users to support scams

        There's already malware that threatens to put your personal files on the public web.

        Best description of Facebook app I've seen.

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Nice of that Sysinternals fellow to create and release a BSoD screensaver eh?

    1. Youngdog

      BSOD screensaver...

      ...oh the fun we used to have with that in my NT4 days! I really should have updated my username to old-fart dog by now.

    2. chivo243 Silver badge
      Windows

      It's a training utility

      I read on another forum about a utility that causes Blue Screens for training purposes, I wonder...

      You want to force one? Sure, just run this tool. It'll force it every time.

      http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/start_blue_screen.html

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    The fake copies of MSE will probably give just as good protection as the real thing, bugger all. A woeful AV solution that couldn't catch a cold in the Arctic circle.

  7. David Roberts

    I know this is all based on user ignorance, but..

    MSE is shipped with Windows, isn't it?

    Maintained through Window Update?

    Why would anyone want to download it from a 3rd party? Seems an unusual target unless the same attack vector is used for all the other free AV offerings.

    1. Primus Secundus Tertius

      Re: I know this is all based on user ignorance, but..

      As I understand it, Windows 8 and 10 come with MS Defender, a descendant product of Swcurity Essentials. But in Windows 7 you have to go and get Security Essentials. Obviously best to go direct to MSFT, before some pirate screen recommends its own software.

      Sec. Ess. is no longer supported in XP, so you need something else. Lots of legit products will do a single scan your machine for free, but for continuous protection against emails and websites you have to pay.

      1. Youngdog

        Re: I know this is all based on user ignorance, but..

        Corporates still running XP will undoubtedly not be using Security Essentials but the number of two-bob Home used by everyone else is a disaster waiting to happen.

    2. tirk
      Windows

      Re: I know this is all based on user ignorance, but..

      MSE is shipped with Windows, isn't it?

      It may be now, but it wasn't with Windows 7 (AKA the last version that any self respecting greybeard would deign to use).

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: I know this is all based on user ignorance, but..

      "Why would anyone want to download it from a 3rd party?"

      There is no shortage of gullibility in the world...

      1. FlamingDeath Silver badge

        Re: I know this is all based on user ignorance, but..

        Google will happily run a Adwords campaign for the keywords "security essentials", so long as the scammers are paying for it. There is very little oversight with Google adwords or any advertising company for that matter, I once saw Ebay offering me depleted uranium to buy on a pay2click Google adwords campaign, because it was a search term I had used, I'm sure if I had searched child pornography, it probably would have said I could buy that at Ebay too. *Facepalm*

        In any case, just block ads as standard, every time, no ifs no buts

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: I know this is all based on user ignorance, but..

          Depleted Uranium?

          Someone may have salvaged stuff from an A-10 ammo belt....

          But what do you do with it?

          It's a rather dangerous heavy metal, handle with gloves, don't inhale the dust, may contain trace amounts of Pu left over from reprocessing, try to avoid having kids. You know the drill....

    4. anthonyhegedus Silver badge

      Re: I know this is all based on user ignorance, but..

      The answer is that people are stupid.

  8. Hans 1
    WTF?

    >Microsoft is warning of fake copies of its Security Essentials that if executed will throw a fake blue screen of death, pwn machines, and lead users to technical support scams.

    There I was thinking those were all features of the official Security Essentials ... could somebody enlighten me ? I mean, the one that ships with Windows, as in, loaded from the legit Dell USB stick that Dell sent me on request to reload Windows ... or is there some other that one can download from microsoft.com that does not cause BSOD's or bug checks etc ? Thought not ... besides, my Windows 10 box is already pwn'd by MS, so now I only have to wait for a support scam ... as in, to get the latest version of Directx, please pay $120 or choose the subscription model, $9 a month, latest and greatest directx, spyware etc as soon as they are made available ... courtesy of .... Microsoft.

    1. Destroy All Monsters Silver badge
      Gimp

      Dell sends USB sticks to reload Windows?

      I find this hard to swallow.

      The best you get is a barely-functional, badly organized CD for machines that do not have a CD drive to "recover" software that "is already installed on your computer".

      It's easier to demand a second helping of food from a concentration camp capo than properly install Windows on an already-taxed Microsoft WIndows machine.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      " mean, the one that ships with Windows, as in, loaded from the legit Dell USB stick that Dell sent me on request to reload Windows "

      No, you are not loading Windows. You are loading a OEM bloatware laden ,clusterfuck version of windows.

      Many come with McAfee, which if you uninstall completely knacker your internet connection unless you know to get hold of the removal tool beforehand.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Or you know which registry keys are affected because the corporate environment gets buggered by this problem regularly, and it doesn't even need a McAfee uninstall to happen...

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "disabling the ctrl+alt+delete task manager"

    I thought the Kernel was supposed to trap the Three Finger Salute - how can it be disabled by this application? Or is it just the Task Manager that's disabled?

    (Genuinely asking!)

    1. richardcox13

      Re: "disabling the ctrl+alt+delete task manager"

      > I thought the Kernel was supposed to trap the Three Finger Salute - how can it be disabled by this application?

      In the days of PS/2 (and before that PC, PC-AT) keyboard connectors the Ctrl-Alt-Del combination was handled in the BIOS. And the kernel always got control.

      This is not true of USB connected keyboards.

      In practice if someone has physical access they can always take control (given a little time), so having a special key combination provides no useful protection.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: "disabling the ctrl+alt+delete task manager"

      It's been around a long time:

      http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_xp-update/ctrl-alt-del-doesnt-bring-up-task-manager/295a1a93-f032-4e65-a355-7df355eac81a

  10. jms222

    Earlier versions of Windows very sensibly _required_ the three fingered salute for logging in to prevent nasties getting in the way.

  11. Teiwaz

    Hicurdismos

    Ancient Greek is it?

  12. oldcoder

    fake Security Essentials

    Isn't that a Microsoft trademark?

    Microsoft already has fake security - much less essentials.

  13. sandbelt

    Pardon my french

    If it is 'sans the addition of a single line', how did you see the number to call?

  14. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    MSE

    coupled with a hosts file and ad blocker is about as useful as ANY other AV suite.

    Use of a firewall that pops up alerts when apps first try to establish an outside connection is also a great help.

    If you knowingly download dodgy files, expect to get targetted with infected files.

    other than that, you are as safe with MSE as you are with any of the known household AV vendors.

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