So how do I get my own infomercial on the reg disguised as an article ?
Luxe cable crimper
An outfit called Belden is about to release a new RJ-45 crimping kit. If its video is accurate, it looks like you'll be whipping up RJ-45 connections in no time - or at least a claimed 30-60 per cent less than is possible using other tools - with almost no fiddling about. Youtube Video Looks handy, no? To the comments, …
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Wednesday 14th September 2016 08:14 GMT ssharwood
I worried some folk might perceive it as a disguised promo.
Our rule is we don't disguise promos. I thought this was interesting, but because it is All About A Product, and a product that needs to be seen rather than described, slipped it in as a news byte rather than a full story.
Does that answer the question?
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Monday 19th September 2016 00:03 GMT Trevor_Pott
I won't speak for anyone else on this, but I'm super interested in this, and I thank Simon from bringing it to my attention. This like "by the way, fs.com is where you find super cheap cables that will save you tens of thousands of dollars". It's "infomercial" to fs.com's competitors, vital information to actual IT practitioners.
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Wednesday 14th September 2016 18:16 GMT Fred Flintstone
So how do I get my own infomercial on the reg disguised as an article ?
If you have something that's genuinely interesting you just need to contact El Reg. After all, that too is news. Or is a new phone not a new product then?
As for the specific product, it is definitely interesting. I have made enough connections over the many years using Ethernet to appreciate anything that speeds up the process and makes connections less of a hassle without adding too much to untwisted length - of course, assuming it doesn't double the costs of an installation. I'm going to have a more detailed look at this, thanks for the article!
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Wednesday 14th September 2016 07:11 GMT the spectacularly refined chap
I don't see much if any saving over regular punch down blocks either, and while the pairs don't need separating it subjectively appears that you end up with more untwisted wire in the completed cable.
No doubt they also cost at least three times the price and the crimper is £100+. Somehow I don't think I'll bother.
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Wednesday 14th September 2016 07:14 GMT Anonymous Coward
Can you explain what you are talking about or better yet provide a link?
I rarely make cables so I've never learned the tricks people who have made thousands would have learned, or looked for labor saving devices. So I looked at this and thought "awesome, where I can buy it?" If there is something even better I'd like to hear about it.
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Wednesday 14th September 2016 09:58 GMT the spectacularly refined chap
I assume he's referring to Kevin's comment about plugs rather than mine about jacks. He seems refer to the two part plugs which are a lot easier to wire than the one piece types because you feed the wires into a guide which then goes into the plug - a lot less fiddly since it is externally accessible and you can see what you are doing.
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Wednesday 14th September 2016 16:42 GMT MrT
The Gillette moment...
If they can develop a system that simplifies the more fiddly job of wiring up the sockets (wall mount, patch panels, etc.), once that's been learnt, the simpler job of wiring the plugs might as well follow the same method. I'm not sure it would win the other way round.
Overall, it looks a neat solution. However, it's another set of connectors in each end of the cable. Something else to check if there's a signal dropout...
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Wednesday 14th September 2016 18:20 GMT Fred Flintstone
I don't know about your jacks, but the Cat6 jacks that I bought for my house don't need the wires untwisted either. They're also simpler.
Do you mind sharing which ones you used? We soon may be looking for some new office space, and it widens our options having the ability to cable ourselves (not to mention that some runs must be under our control due to what they carry). I thought it looked interesting, but I share the suspicion with another commentard that the ones on display may be considerably more expensive (partly because we have to pay for that video :) )...
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Wednesday 14th September 2016 16:32 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Aha-
> it's another expensive (capex, so acceptable) way to replace expensive skilled cablemonkeys (opex, so unacceptable)
Strange. Most companies I've worked in are the other way round: they will avoid capex at all costs, but are happy to replace with opex even if it's more expensive in the longer term (e.g. equipment leasing, cloud VMs, SaaS instead of software purchase, outsourced NOC, outsourced soft PBX).
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Wednesday 14th September 2016 07:24 GMT jake
After 30-odd years of crimping 8P8C and RJ45 (etc.) connectors ...
... I rather suspect that any new more complex tool would get in the way of my muscle memory. I am willing to be convinced otherwise, though. And what is the cost? What I use today can be replaced for about US$50 ... I'll put in a call to Grainger tomorrow out of curiosity, if nothing else.
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Wednesday 14th September 2016 09:16 GMT Alan J. Wylie
Gillette invented this business model a long time ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Razor_and_blades_business_model
Sell the holder cheaply, make your profit out of selling lots of small bits of steel/plastic.
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Wednesday 14th September 2016 15:45 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Gillette invented this business model a long time ago
Perhaps so, but if like me you rarely make cables even if it adds an extra buck to the cost of each cable you won't care if it means they are perfect every time without fiddling around and without testing, finding out got a couple wires crossed, and having to clip the connector off and start again!
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Wednesday 14th September 2016 12:01 GMT Missing Semicolon
This is definitely news, even if it is a promo.
Anyone who has crimped a normal RJ45 plug (the cheap ones) knows how hard it is to get a good crimp. The necessity to unwind the green pair and put them on either side of the blue pair makes for a fiddly job.
This replaces the hard-to-crimp connectors with a compact easy-to-crimp one, plus a bunch of adaptors.
Nice.
Does anyone know of a cheaper way to get easy-crimp plugs?
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Wednesday 14th September 2016 17:14 GMT Herby
Size??
This may be all well and good for the sockets (crimping those is a pain), but the plugs are a different matter. From the looks of it (using the 8P8C plug as a size reference), a plug combo is quite large and bulky. With today's thin lappys, there isn't much room for a big connector hanging out the side (maybe wireless is better here). The other problem is the specialized equipment you need to buy first (crimper) and the unique plug (probably over priced). The modular plugs are really cheap these days (less than a dime each), and if you are terminating a cable to a plug, paying for a fancy plug and an adapter (that is a big thing at the end of the cable) is inviting trouble.
The next question I ask, is how does it survive being used by
monkeysthe user population that can barely get a USB jack plugged in right.So, I reserve judgement for now.