Top Jock cop calls for universal DNA database

in other news...

"Chief Constable of Scotland's largest police force stoned to death by angry mob"

This just reinforces what I've always thought...

That under no circumstances should anyone, ever, give credence to any of our boys in blue who court the press. We pay these clowns to do a simple job, apply the law; the law made by those we elect. We can at least vote those twats out when the laws they create go bad (that means you Brown). But where, prithee, would we be if we gave the 'polis' every new power they asked for?

Might I politely suggest that Mr House take himself back to 1930's Germany where he clearly belongs.

As a Scot in exile...

all I can do is agree. What a bampot. Hopefully the idea will be blasted from the sky by the shotguns of common sense and public outrage.

Or better yet...

Why not tag them all at birth, should save some time.

Actually, as they're more than likely to commit a crime at some point, let's cut out the middle man and lock them up as soon as they leave the womb. It's the only way to be sure.

AC - because THEY're watching.

That's right, assume we're guilty...

Find me, *then* use DNA on site as corroborating evidence. And if it wasn't me, delete my file - DNA, fingerprints, the lot.

I'm getting increasingly annoyed about this...

Paris, because she's allowed to collect my DNA

I ♥ Big Brother

Has the good constable trotted out the "If you have nothing to hide line yet"

And course there are no such things as false positives

Pig ignorant

nuff said

'Jock'?

'Jock'? Seriously? The article is fine but thumbs down for the language choice...

Passing the blame here...

...he is admitting that New Labor's touchy feely leftist policies are not working, but rather than simply put more police on the beat, he wants technology to be used as a substitute. How convenient - yet how dangerous - for reasons already highlighted by other Reg readers above.

Re: 'Jock'

I'm proud to be called a "Jock", aren't you? But it does make El Reg appear anglo-centric, or even London-centric. If the bampot in question had been the chief of an English force, would the title have been "Top Limey cop...", or maybe "Top Sassenach cop..."? - I think not. It's bad enough having trolls here without the authors providing their fair share of trolling activity themselves.

Oh look...

... it's another Policeman claiming that our freedoms such as that pesky Presumption of Innocence are less important than something that might make their jobs a bit easier or, at least, let them accuse someone of a crime because their DNA was found at a crime scene and then effectively demand the suspect prove their innocence...

Mine's the one with the Citizen Number and DNA Barcode on the back.

DNA - The new silver-bullet to cure all crime in our time...

Bollocks!

We leave our DNA scattered around all over the place - shedding hair, shedding dead skin - and it is easily reused and left someplace else.

Furthermore, we are expected to believe that the DNA database (like the ID Database) won't ever get compromised.

The DNA (and ID) database will never be abused by anyone that has authorised access - 'cos our plods are all so very noble - The Guildford 4 and Birmingham 6 were just blemishes on an otherwise stainless record...

The Criminals would never circumvent or game the system... because they respect the law so much...

The DNA (and ID) database will never be subject to mission/scope creep....

But because we are so afraid of the Terrorists, the Pedophiles, the Drugs etc, we NEED it to protect us... like life wasn't functioning without it.

Geheime Staatspolizei - working in the United Kingdom

So those that fought against Nazi tyranny did so in vain!

When will the police & politicians finally realise that they cannot keep erode our liberties without getting a backlash from the public. There is no point in the police trying to convince us that it is for the best, because more & more of us are becoming resentful of their heavy-handed tactics.

At the "Bulldog Bash" (biker fest) at Long Marston Warwickshire police have closed surrounding roads to ensure that only one entrance is available. The ACC of Warwickshire stated that this was to to allow them to search all vehicles and people entering. Never mind the inconvenience that other members of the public are put to!

When will these wallies realize that they should be out catching criminals not controlling us.

Black helicopter because it's the cop's "Eye in the sky".

Eternal Flames - never been out

is that:

a) on the beat?

b) of the closet?

my coat's in the closet

F### Right off!

If those corrupt, incompetant clowns can turn on one of their own (Shirley McKie), do everything in their power to ignore complaints of assault by one of their own (http://tiny.cc/Llupc) then what chance to the plebs in the street have?

What do you have to hide???

... we are all guilty something it is only a matter of time before the storm troopers come knocking...

I'll get me coat and leave the country 'cos this is now a police state where all need to be sampled, tagged, scanned, televised, and in the end bagged by a police force who believe we are all guilty of something.

@grahame

Interesting comments... as has been pointed out on El Reg quite a few times now, because of the "Edmond Davies bump", over half (53%) of the entire Police Service will be leaving over the next 5 years... even Asst Commissioner Tarique Ghaffur acknowledges that 40% of current serving Met officers will be gone by the time the 2012 Olympics comes round... So, implement your ideas, thus ensuring there won't actually be any policing of the Olympics at all. But I wonder if "grahame" or his mates will be stepping forward to volunteer for the task...?

The reality is, you're going to have fun with all of the foreign civilian security staff who WILL be doing the "policing"... at least it will give you genuine cause to complain that you've been given a hard time by them, as an alternative to moaning about the police! :-)

Half of the UK Police Service will now get their coats...

@anarchic-teapot

" thinks with the contents of his underwear."

errr...thinks with his "skid mark"????

Jock

As a Jock I cordially offer to pull down the top-jock-cops jocks and provide a sample of my DNA up the jocksie. How's that sound, you fascist swine?

@Mike Richards

Testify! Sing It Loud!

*\. Mines the one with a Rage Against The Machine Album in the pocket with the line 'it has to happen somewhere, it has to happen sometime - what better place than here, what better time than now!' highlighted in the song sheet.

So how much is the bounty...

.... to get a copy of Mr House's DNA profile? Could be worth a lot of money to a criminal. Because he would be the first person to have his DNA put on record permanently wouldn't he? That's how the system will work right? All police officers and their families will be done first right?

In fact now that I think about it, selling your DNA to a criminal could be a whole new economy. You give them some skin flakes, they liberally sprinkle them around the crime scene, and commit the crime whilst you're having a dinner party with twelve friends.

Now if only I was in the US I could patent that business model.

Welcome to the People's Republic of Scotland

Chief Constable Stalin speaking.

What a twat! Strathclyde Police haven't needed DNA evidence to fit people up before, so why do they need it now all of a sudden?

I despair for the old country, I really do. Ruined by socialism and soon, no doubt, to be completely and utterly destroyed by the likes of the Chief Constable there.

Never mind, I'm coming to the conclusion that I will have to leave this sceptic isle in the not-too-distant future because I've an aversion to being DNA sampled and ID'ed by people who are about as corrupt as they come in any third world dictatorship you care to mention. If I had the cash, I'd be long gone by now.

Take my advice people, flee, flee!

So all I have to do is...

...collect DNA from random people (shouldn't be too hard, a bit of hair here, an accidental scrape of somebody there), and toss it haphazardly around the scene after I've committed a crime?

Brilliant.

AC, because they're always watching >_>

Scotland / England / Wales / etc

Good call to Mike Richards (fully allowing for the partial Math Campbell amendment).

As for Mark the Welshman... "LOST" what exactly? For what it's worth I'm an Englishman living in Scotland. I don't think the "Union" constitutes Scotland (recognised prior as a full nation state) having "LOST" to England (also recognised as a nation state) in the sense you mean it. Cheated, maybe... and at that point I refer again to a quote from Math Campbell (see above): "Act of Union (1707) forced on Scottish Parliament through corruption and bribes and blackmail; little to no public assent given the mass rioting on the streets."

Wales, however, is a principality and was never really known as a nation state in the modern sense. It was quite clearly 'absorbed' (or to use your term: LOST) into England. Witness the way the St George's cross is used by the the Union Flag, to represent England and, by implication, Wales.

So I can see why you're angry.

The sooner the UK becomes more like the Nordic/Scandinavian collection of mutually respectful alliance of like-minded but clearly individual countries, the better. Rather that than the broken and confusing collection of resentment and lies that we have at present.

The UK, in it's present form has run it's course. Britain and British can still be a legitimate, loose collective terms. But as a singular term for a country or 'a people', it's a wholly bankrupt concept.

Typical Scumclyde cops

This is the reason why people in Scotland have little or no faith in the cops....they are butt ass lazy, stupid, prejudiced and cowardly.

Example I went to a grad recruitment event for the police half the forces didnt bother sending a representative and most of the reps that were there were from scumclyde police.

I have longish hair at the moment (which I would have cut if i had decided to join, but the minute the scumclyde "recruiting" officer saw me she piped up with "Meh chiff inspuctor wid fah aff his sit eff he sahw ye wi hur lik that" starting a pattern of "meh chiff inspuctor wid" speeches.

For the grad scheme being pushed, turns out its a waste of time as theres no real acclerated promotion, you get it in the neck from old fart cops for being a "snobby wee git", get checked up on constantly and get told "IF you want some easy graduate ride go work in England"

And they wonder why Scottish cops have a horrificallly poor clear up rate, mainly as none of them know the law, are unwilling to help at all (my car got whacked in a car park, asked regarding photos of damage / paint sample as evidence, reply from dundee muppet copper "Its no CSI ye ken") and regulalrly lie regarding the law if they dont want to bother following up a crime (that 6 inch + diametre exhaust is legal according to the traffic division, guy said the car came from Japan like that [conflict there as Jap exhaust dont meet British standards period]

And the few decent cops, well their "colleagues" try to get rid of them, example chav with a rep for assaulting police with weapons including knives, gets spotted breaching peace and making threats, cop tries to cuff him and he gets violent,so the cop is struggling with him and almost loses grip on the little scrote so gives him a punch to the side of the head to subdue him to get the cuffs on, his partner decides to complain as he used "excessive force" by punching the little scrote once instead of slapping him, and he gets booted off the force, sickening.... I wonder where she was, chatting up someone in the street, fixing her lippy in the car? Perhaps she should go buy some burberry and a pram and she would fit right it, or possibly become an ambulance chasing lawyer

Worst part is one of my buddies is a cop and he is already parping out the same crap as the rest of them after less than 6 months [we are tayside police, complaints are futile, you will be ignored and lied to]

Makes me embarrassed to be Scottish with these lazy sods claiming to be cops really, S**g H**l; better all start practising I suppose