'2nd referendum' topples site

2nd Referendum

Why? Were the electorate too dumb to get it right the first time.

Shit like this happens in a democracy, the time to start trying to persuade voters to your point of view is before the election. This petition should be taken down.

Constitutional amendment needs more than 50:50 vote?

Over a number of years I've worked in a number of democratic (non governmental) organisations.

In each of them, a major change to the organisation's constitution (e.g. to the way it does business) is not possible unless it has a substantial majority of the vote, not some 50:50 or so.

Accepting that the UK effectively has no constitution, why wasn't a vote such as this set up to require a one-third/two-thirds vote split (or whatever number might be appropriate)?

Anybody want to crowdfund a judicial review?

Not what I hear.

The German response seems to be get out and soon before you bing the whole thing crashing down. France likely to be just as nervous when Marine Le Pen waves the Union Jack and demands France has a referendum too.

The dumb row votes

I've noticed that all of the lower functioning people of the Facebook groups that I am a member of all jumped up and down for Brexit, whereas the more informed chose to vote remain. Sadly there are more cretins than informed people in the populous who chose to follow lies, fairy stories and pretty graphics rather than listen to learned reason.

I don't think that the education system can be held to blame, as most of the younger generation who stand most to lose from our leaving the EU expressed a desire to stay, and it's these citizens that are going to me most hurt by our navel-gazing decision to throw our toys out of the pram.

Basically we are fucked, and so is the future of our younger generation because of crass stupidity.

And Trump, who is currently in Scotland seems to think that they are happy with the outcome! I can't wait to read about a summit of the UK and US leaders, Boris Johnson and Donald Trump. Suddenly Siberia seems to be a very attractive place to live.

I'm rather surprised at the restraint shown in commentard sarcasm towards sour grapes from those whom (i) would have insisted that 0.1% victory for remain must be respected with no repeat vote and (ii) failed to mention their concerns before they lost.

For the anonymous record, I voted leave with some thought, seeing arguments on both sides. I would have seen a remain vote, however narrow, as granting some democratic legitimacy to the current arrangements which I voted against.

The Elephant in the Room

I prefer to look at the Brexit vote and see more than half of Britons standing up and rejecting decades of neo-liberal punishment.

Right now the powerful in Europe (and likely elsewhere) are soiling themselves at the thought that "Those People" might just figure out how to vote in a group that won't sell the country off to the lowest bidder.

If the Greek anti-austerity vote scared them, this must have them in a total panic.

What the right wing has tapped into is pretty simple: there's a large and growing part of the population who are worse off economically than they were thirty years ago, and who can see that there's no likelihood of that changing.

Sooner or later there had to be a tipping point, and this may be it.