Jacqui Smith kick-starts yoof ID debate site, site kick stops

Target the Yoofs

I see.

One of the biggest obstacles the Gov't has with ID cards is the resistance from older people who remember a time when Big Brother was just a character in a story.

Solution?

Create a web site aimed specifically at yoofs in order to indoctrinate them without interference from busy-body old fossils.

Nice black helicopter, for obvious reasons.

Slashdotted...

.... before Slashdot got to it.

A new record!

Please, somebody in the right place start the No Confidence process so we can tell these idiots to piss off.

"my life my id"?

I've never found an answer to the problem of changing names when the ID card insanity is upon us. For example, if a woman gets married and changes surname, will she be charged to get an updated ID? How can a government policy that has nothing to do with gender treat men and women differently just because of historical convention?

HAHA

That forum is bloody hilarious. The only positive views for ID cards are one by the guy hosting the site (i.e. being paid by the government) and a moderator (probably another government paid lacky.

So funny how they say the system will be great with no explanation as to why and then get shot down by everyone else who's registered! Lol

Sign up and help put a stop to this madness!!!

Access Denied

When you register you get an Access Denied page for all the pages.

Real free speech there, Ms Smith.

For my title see my ID card

Well the site appears to be back up.

Some interesting comments as noted. My favourite so far has to be in reply to the discussion on Facebook, the initial post by the admin asking why we're worried about a central database of ID when we already give up more information on the likes of Facebook.

The first reply given was 'I haven't invited the government to be my friend on facebook'

And I mean, seriously, who would?

My Life My ID

Yep! So get your bloody filthy mitts off it!

@ Nomen

"How can a government policy that has nothing to do with gender treat men and women differently just because of historical convention?"

Er, the woman can always choose not to take her husband's name, if she doesn't think historical convention is worth it. Or she could get the husband to pay, if she does :)

The policy does not treat men and women differently. The historical convention does. Cart. Horse.

IIRC there was a lot of work involved when my wife (half) took my surname. It may be *less* work for women if they just have to update the id card and the banks, employer, landlord etc. get the change pushed to them. Which is obviously what everyone wants :lol:

Glorious

mehehehe

diddnt load...

Got fed up waiting, probably a load of shite anyway

RE: Access Denied

Same experience here. I wonder if it's because I put "Strongly Disagree" down as my feelings about the scheme? Hmmm...

Irony

A quick addition. This whole thing is about what we think about our ID being stuck to a single card, right? So why are the Shooters Hill people all anonymous? Surely they'd have nothing to fear from putting their real ID? After all, what can anyone do with your ID?

RE: Access Denied

I retract my last comment. It's more likely it's because I didn't click on the link in their email.

Paris, because she would have spotted my mistake.

Why waste your time

Why watse you time venting your splean on the web site when as already shown when Ms Smith took live questions on the interweb all questions where screened so she only got the brown nosers, what makes people think she or the goverment is even going to look at this?

I just hope they have the usual IT hitches so it gets delayed until this unelected goverment gets humiliated out at the next election and the blues stick to there guns and scarp this waste of time and money.

Viva le Revolution!!!

Old Jackys like my mum good at mum things but has no idea about the real world.

Brilliant...

From one of the yoof moderators...

http://www.mylifemyid.org/node/206

Don't know about you, but the current system with loads of different ID cards from student cards to bank cards is a real pain. In the future, I think it is going to be so much easier when we can carry round just one card which we can use for everything.

This site is the best laugh I've had today it's just so blatant (and shit)

I managed to register...

... sneakily bypassing the cunning and advanced age verification system in order to post a few rude words.

Who gives a custard cream anyway, it's only criminals who cannot be traced, the rest of us can be tracked to within a few hundred feet of our location at any given time.

Labour will be out soon, then we get the chance to have a big old moan at the Conservatives again!

Paris because she's better than Jacqui Smith (A kick in the gonads is better than Jacqui Smith for that matter)

Remeber Kids..

Don't trust anyone over 30!

*\. Mines the one with NO2ID on the back.

Shooter 13

They got there own Twat-o-Tron, check the shooters hill discussion, not one comment is written in 'proper' english?

PH cause she makes more sense

Good to see

When I looked in the first thing I saw was a guy using the word Nazi's in connection with HMG.

English?

"...not one comment is written in 'proper' english?..."

You expect English from the semi-educated Special Snowflakes the current "education" system is geared towards turning out? Get with 21st Century Britain, oldtimer...

In spite of the icon, meant to denote lack of personal vitriol, there's more truth than I'm comfortable with in this comment... :(

Patronising?

Jaqui Smith? Patronising? Surely not? I find that a hard one to swallow.

PH, naturally.

Young people only?

Don't let that put you off having your say (if you're over 25).

As this country lacks a robust identity card scheme you can simply pretend to be young by lying about your age on the signup form!

@Paul

I say bring on the civil disorder then!

//Mines the one with the V for Vendetta "Guy Fawkes" mask in the pocket.

Well the progress is promising!

In the words of Top Gear "That's not gone well".

Day of launch and the anti-Labour anti-ID anti-Gordon anti-Smith bile is flowing nicely. I particularly like the person registered as Gordon Brown, that's some quality identity theft right there!

My Goodness

I couldn't see one single post in support. The closest I saw was a sort of "I guess it won't cause diarrhea, but that don't mean we should eat it." kind of post.

@peter

Well, if they're all wankers, you best make sure to stay out of their reach or they'll be jerking you around for sure!

managed or represented?

Governments exist through the permission of the people. NOT the other way around. I don't need a license from NuLabour to exist in my own country.

Cynicism Rules

Well, I may be an old cynic, but how long do you think the site will be up for before the govt claims that it has been hijacked by a vocal minority/older people being bad and lying about their age, and isn't representative of the views of young people? The govt seems to think that young = stupid and are being proved so very wrong!

Also, isn't the national database scheme at the ministry of information more than a little worrying when you also read about the criminal record checks being wrong more often than right? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/09/vetting_checks/

I've nothing to hide, if I did I'd never find it again.

I'm an old fart

and live outside the UK but managed to register more than once using the same e-mail address. I wonder how many ID cards I will be able to get when they come out. I'm just off to create a new e-mail address in Jaqui's name and see if I can register as her. Maybe we should all try that!

It's not the UK helicopters that worry me, they keep all those locked up to stop the RAF getting them dirty.

Get em while they're young...

Thats right, can't convince the voting adults so lets target the more impressionable children.

And now a word from our sponsor, the BNP:

Hey kids? Life getting you down? In trouble at school? ASBOs? Looking for some answers? Well look no further: Immigrants did it. Thats right kids, immigration is killing this country, and also, it's killing your pets. Last year immigrants caused about 4600m² of GLOBAL WARMING which is why teenagers sometime sometimes feel depressed, anxious or misunderstood.

We need to deport them all, close the borders and then presumably, everything will be fine.

A lot of "adult" people don't agree with our views, but if you vote when you're old enough for us LIFE WILL BE ONE HUNDERED PERCENT BETTER. We also have free sweets, and lemonade. Big smile for the camera...

How is this any different? With either policy, people tend to lean either toward apathy or extremism, and I don't see why having failed to convince the adults in the country, the government feels it has the right to indoctrinate the children into supporting them.

Luckly they failed miserably! Kids these days far are too street wise through trying to become coke dealing hiphop artists to fall for this kind of bullshit.

Viva La Revolución!!!

Hmmm...

When I saw this on the news today I was dismayed to see mainly (only?) positive views from the young people that the Blair-now-Brown Broadcasting Corporation had bothered to interview (or should that be "bothered to broadcast"?). My first thought was "now there's a good reason for increasing the voting age!". Hopefully this whole cringe worthy exercise will back-fire big time, especially when the victims, after a few seconds reflection (ok, maybe longer) realise this is the same bunch trying to keep them in school (aka out of the jobless figures) to 21 or older and saddling them with a life time of debt for the pleasure.

Oh, and while I am firing on all 0.5 cylinders: Brown said recently re growing economic crisis that a "global problem needs a global solution", ugh, helloooo, isn't the *real* problem already spelt out twice in that sentence? Are there any journo's with a backbone and a voice left today or have they all been retired or shunted off to game shows, leaving us with retards like Andrew "Yes Prime Minister" Marr. Grrrrr.

Paris, just because, ok

What that site needs....

is a strong dose of goatse!

Why is it you can never find a hacker when you need one? :-))

Best laugh I've had in ages

The irony is just beautiful - they spend all this money on education, and funnily enough, the kids can think for themselves!

Access Denied - Whats missing if it just errors on the main page post-signup?

Access denied

You do not have the required permissions to access this page. If you believe this message to be in error, please contact a site administrator.

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and all I did was complete the signup process using a *secured* browser...

I answered the signup honestly excepting actual age...

too "simpleminded" a website if it gets broken by a simple "NoScript" plugin...

does it have "Drive By Downloads" for IE users ?

Just plain curiousity :)

***nyaan*** as the cats here in Japan say it...

LOL

IT? because where IS the intelligence if the technology IS the intelligence?

@Peter

Butbutbut if you had an ID card then The Database would know who you are, and wouldn't let you into the poxy forum on account of being ancient and decrepit. Or something.

I've tried to register but so far it has steadfastly refused to e-mail me a confirmation. Wait, who are those men in dark suits crossing the ca p%*)_546546%$$$$* NO CARRIER

@Xander

Access denied after you register - absolutely correct.

Of course I did manage to post a comment under the video on the home page.

Power to the people!

@Michael

"I don't need a license from NuLabour to exist in my own country."

Yes you do.

Or at least, you will shortly.

Oh - and you're being watched, mind.

FOI Act?

Anyone considered lodging a request under the FOI to find out how much tax payers money they wasted on that pile of propaganda peddling shite?

Propaganda?

How can anyone call this a propaganda site? When I looked I couldn't see anything pro id cards

Oi - Jaqui Smiff - msg 4 U

Article 12. No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.

Article 19. Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

Article 21(2). Everyone has the right of equal access to public service in his country.

Article 30. Nothing in this Declaration may be interpreted as implying for any State, group or person any right to engage in any activity or to perform any act aimed at the destruction of any of the rights and freedoms set forth herein.

Whore.

I am nolonger young :-(

I am 43 and tried to sign up.

"We are sorry, but unfortunately we can only recruit people for this research who are aged between 16-25 and live in the UK. Thank you very much for your interest in joining the research.

© 2008 Virtual Surveys Ltd"

So I am going back and pretending to be 25. Surely there is a law against age discrimination?

Am dwn wid da kids and da yoot. I will Obviously type in Text language, if I can remember how to do it. Any tips? Wear my baseball cap backawards or is that 1980's?

I am going in....

Access Denied to MyLifeMyID

I tried my login even though the confermation email has not arrived.

"Access denied

You do not have the required permissions to access this page. If you believe this message to be in error, please contact a site administrator.

© 2008 Virtual Surveys Ltd"

Obviously I need to clear the Cookies again.

Well I want an I.D. card

'cos the wankers took all my other ones off me

Oh Dear...

You can agree with your own posts on there.

The biggest problem with ID cards? They'll be implemented by the same sort of muppets as set up this website.

Penguin, because you _really_ don't want to see an angry penguin.

Favourite post

My favourite post has to be the one about Pete Comley - Minister of Propaganda at Virtual Surveys aand chief mouthpiece for the government's "If you've done nothing wrong you've nothing to hide" line that he spins on every forum he moderates.

Some wag has found Minister Comley's Facebook page and noted that it's marked as Private, which is very funny - worried about who can see your data are you, Pete?

"But's he's smart enough to limit access to his Facebook profile: http://www.facebook.com/friends/?id=581083834"

counter-conspiracy.

A quick look across the posts indicates that a dozen or so users, all foaming at the mouth "The Nazis are comming the nazis are comming" account for 90% of the postings.

So then, which anti-id group hijacked the governments own forum to "educated" the little darlings about the evils of ID?

I say "educate" because it's more "look kids I'm running round like a headless chicken, why don't you try it" rather than providing any sound reasoning against ID cards.