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Microsoft has quietly announced when its Surface Hub will ship, and if you're impatient, you won't be pleased: it won't be until January 1, 2016. In July, it emerged that manufacturing problems were going to delay the planned September 1 ship date of the product. Redmond has now updated its “we're running late” blog post with …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    but will it phone home?

    With every dammed PowerPoint slide shown?

    you know just in the name of building a better product?

    given the 'Features' for this in their latest OS Release, I would expect that any prospective purchaser would want to know this sort of stuff before they sign on the dotted line.

    If it does send everything back to Redmond that case where hackers got hold of press releases before they were released will be eclipsed by this possible leak. After all what CEO is not going to use his shiny new toy to show that he is worth his 50% hike in salary for delivering a 20% drop in profits....

    1. Arctic fox
      Windows

      Re: but will it phone home?

      If any sysadmin in a company that I was the CEO of set up such a device using "express settings" instead of the slightly longer route by which you can turn off all the offending defaults before you have even finished setup, he would be exiting the building carrying his desk contents in a dustbin liner so fast his head would spin. So no, it is not going to be allowed to call home from any company with a competent IT-dept.

      1. Naselus

        Re: but will it phone home?

        If only one could buy some kind of device which could block unauthorised network traffic going out onto the internet. Something which produced an effect similar to a wall of fire. A 'fire wall', one might almost call it. And if only the idea was so simple and easy to implement that $30 home routers could ship with one built in. But hey, I guess that's not something anyone in the IT department of the kind of company that can spend £25000 on a huge piece of display equipment would be aware of.

        I work for an architect, and we're certainly going to be getting a few of these; I'm certainly not worried about it moving anything out of my network without permission. It'll be set up to communicate with it's peer devices in the other offices and not a lot else. I don't really think it's the idea device for a spot of web surfing, so why would I need to let it chat to Microsoft.com?

  2. thames

    "If Redmond can knock off those literal rough edges, there's no reason the Surface Hub won't see others inside a business smile."

    Other than being massively expensive and having no real advantage in a meeting over a projector? Yes, let's design something that requires me to stand in front of it in order to interact with it, thus obscuring the display from the audience. Truly an idea worthy of Balmer (and apparently now Sadnads).

    It might make a good novelty display system in the lobby of certain hotels or convention centres. However, that's a very limited market. A small specialist manufacturer might make a good, if obscure, business out of something like this, but as a division of a business the size of Microsoft it's pointless.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      During meetings, a touch display does offer advantages. However, I don't get the cost... I recently set up something similar based on an i3 smartboard (100inch), a laser projector, a decent pc/webcam/jabra mic/speaker and windows 10. Total cost including mounting and installation was about 6500 euro. Something similar but with an 84 inch 4K touch display would be between 10k and 11k euro. The equivalent surface hub costs double that...

      Privacy issues aside, users really like that they can open webpages on that thing in Edge, write down comments on the screen and dump everything in Onenote for future reference after the meeting.

    2. Naselus

      "Other than being massively expensive and having no real advantage in a meeting over a projector? Yes, let's design something that requires me to stand in front of it in order to interact with it, thus obscuring the display from the audience. Truly an idea worthy of Balmer (and apparently now Sadnads).

      It might make a good novelty display system in the lobby of certain hotels or convention centres. However, that's a very limited market. A small specialist manufacturer might make a good, if obscure, business out of something like this, but as a division of a business the size of Microsoft it's pointless."

      You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?

      Firstly, it's around half to 1/3rd the price of similar display walls, while being considerably better quality. Secondly, anyone working in the construction industry can see the advantage of a multi-user touch-screen that is big enough to display A1 plans in full size. It's not really for show-and-tell powerpoint bollocks (though yes, many execs will probably user it as such). It's a productivity device that engineers and architects are going to go completely apeshit for. Anyone involved in Building Information Management workloads will be falling over themselves for this thing.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        "Firstly, it's around half to 1/3rd the price of similar display walls, while being considerably better quality. "

        No, it is not, more the other way around. A display wall is something else entirely, the Surface hub is a 84" multitouch display with a webcam and some other trimmings. Cost over here is close to 22k euro (vat excluded). As stated in my previous post you can build something similar for a lot less than that...

        I will have a look at it because I really want to know why they charge a 100% markup.

        I do agree that the OP doesn't know what he's talking about :-)

    3. Champ

      I can only assume that you've never stood and worked at a whiteboard with one or more colleagues. It seems to me that the Surface Hub takes that concept and gives it a massive kick into the future.

  3. Hans 1
    WTF?

    Big wide borders around the screen

    Back to the 90's laptops with mega wide borders, nice! Come-on, you can do better than that, seriously, they still have absolutely NO TASTE.

    Even my TV 3 or 4 yo has less wide borders ... and no, it is not the touch screen needing that, otherwise your phones would be three times as big as they are today.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Nothing of Microsoft..

    will everm ake it into my life again after the privacy concerns and constant "phoning home" of MY PRIVATE DATA

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