Once more Microsoft listens to its....CASH REGISTERS, NOT its customers.
Sorry, Windows 10 early adopters: Microsoft Edge WON'T block ads at launch
You won't have to worry about dodgy toolbars, rogue ActiveX controls, or buggy plugins when you use Microsoft Edge (née Project Spartan), Redmond's new web browser for Windows 10. But you can also forget about extending the browser in any way, at least at first. Microsoft gave a sneak peek at its new, HTML/JavaScript-based …
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Wednesday 6th May 2015 22:33 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Irrelevant
It makes an even stranger assumption that ... "You won't have to worry about dodgy toolbars, rogue ActiveX controls, or buggy plugins when you use Microsoft Edge". I dislike* to have to use the obvious as a catapult against Microsoft, but since when is any first launch product in any industry free from worry? Especially when things always seem to go sideways with the things you're told not to worry about!
Besides, what is a Microsoft web browser without rogue ActiveX controls? Without that, there will be no press on the security exploits, and without that there will be no news coverage. It will be like it never happened! I guess in the end, I'm hoping the author is right after all! Salute to you, Neil McAllister!!
* A lie.
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Thursday 7th May 2015 09:01 GMT TheVogon
"Unfortunately, that will leave Edge users with virtually no ability to adjust the browser's behavior or add new features. (We're looking at you, AdBlock.) The new browser supports neither ActiveX controls nor Browser Helper Objects (BHOs), which developers could use to extend Internet Explorer with plugins and add-on toolbars, respectively."
But no one needs to use any of these things to block adverts in IE. It has great built in advert filtering which can use the same blocking list as Adblock via the "Tracking Protection" feature. As far as I can see this will still be supported in Microsoft Edge as it does not seem to be on the list of removed features.
See http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/Browser/TrackingProtectionLists/
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Wednesday 6th May 2015 22:48 GMT David 132
Edge has all the features I need
I've always preferred to think of Microsoft's browser as a single-purpose tool to download a proper browser, as in "Oh, I see Microsoft have released Firefox Downloader Version 11".
So on that score, Edge has everything I might ever need from it.
But I do like downloading Firefox in a way that is, as Joe Belfiore touted it at BUILD, "on the edge of consuming and creating" and "to the developer notion of being close to the modern capabilities of the web.".
Thanks Joe. Really appreciate your hard work there.
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Thursday 7th May 2015 05:42 GMT Steve Davies 3
Re: Answer: The hosts file.
and just how are the majority of windows users going to find it let alone know how to change it properly?
Will they even know what IP's/URL's to alias to 127.0.0.1 in the first place?
The hosts file is fine for us experts/geeks/etc but for the average Wayne or Sharon? forget it.
Personally, this Browser is a non starter apart from the one use which is to act as a downloader for other browsers that can block Adverts.
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Friday 8th May 2015 13:37 GMT asdf
Re: Answer: The hosts file.
>If you're not blocking ads at the router level, you're doing it wrong!
I also do so using privoxy on my router (for unrooted devices on my network) but it would tax many weenie or older routers out there especially if you start adding rules. If your router doesn't have at least 64 meg memory (be surprised how many don't) you are going to see performance issues.
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Thursday 7th May 2015 10:46 GMT Tromos
Re: Answer: The hosts file. @TheVogon
In most cases, I'm quite happy to allow sites with their own adverts and analytics. It is passing these on to third parties with all their tracking and snooping that is my main objection.
In many cases, these would be special interest sites with relevant advertising and I may be visiting the site specifically to see the ads.
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Thursday 7th May 2015 08:23 GMT Spasticus Autisticus
Re: Promises for an indefinite future date
I seem to remember in the dim distant past the 'four pillars' of Windows XP. The only one I can remember was that XP would have a new, better file system than NTFS. I believe all four 'pillars' were quietly dropped - and, more than a decade on, NTFS is still the file system of Windows. Other OSs have had new file systems but MS can't seem to break free from their crappy past programming decisions and we just get another Regal Supervan with new shiny bodywork.
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Thursday 7th May 2015 09:09 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Promises for an indefinite future date
The "Pillars of Longhorn" (or WinXP) were:
- the new file system (WinFS) which, as you say, was dropped
- Avalon, the new graphics system (WPF) which still lives on but hasn't exactly set the world alight
- Indigo, the WS-x protocols (WCF) which were a big success and still widely used, although things like REST now play in some of the same territory
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Thursday 7th May 2015 09:35 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Promises for an indefinite future date
Windows has supported the Installable File System API from it's initial NT release onwards - out of the box it supports FAT and NTFS but it supports any number of others. But in the main, NTFS meets most users' requirements so people stick with it.
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Thursday 7th May 2015 01:47 GMT Russle
Windows 10 OPERATION FEMA CAMP
Judge Forrest is quoted as saying Section 1021(b)(2) of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) stripped Americans of core liberties reminded the Judge of how the supreme court incarcerated millions of American citizens with relations to Japanese during ww2.
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Thursday 7th May 2015 02:10 GMT IGnatius T Foobar
Microsoft FAIL
Oh great, so Windows 7.1 (also known as "Windows 10") will have a new browser. Why are they smart enough to dump IE but not smart enough to dump NIH? Does the world need YET ANOTHER browser for every web developer to have to test against?
If they're going to be this "kinder gentler" Microsoft that they keep claiming they are now, how about just joining one of the existing open source projects that produce browser engines?
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Thursday 7th May 2015 07:25 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Microsoft FAIL
FFS, you moan that MS don't stick to standards. They make a standards complaint one from ground up and still fucking moan.
Still supporting Netscape? Stil supoprt Chrome v1?
One is being depreciated, one is being introduced, what is so hard about that?
And why "join" another OS source project? So we can have identical browsers, with all the same features and inevitably either result in fighting, stagnation or being forced to accept features you don't want.
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Thursday 7th May 2015 23:48 GMT Jamesit
Re: Add QBasic to browser
"Forget all that advanced low level code just put the QBasic interpreter into the Browser and let us write our own scripts....
Bit like Greasemonkey, except we can play Gorillas again!"
That would be a good use for IE, I might even use it then. My productivity might suffer abit tho...:-)
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Thursday 7th May 2015 14:57 GMT sabroni
So Daily Mail!
This is a good move by MS, you'd be mental to want all IE's non-standard extensions moved into a new product. The Reg in it's typical style spins that as "MS allow Ads!" and the commentards pile in about how shit that is.
You're supposed to be smart enough to see beyond the baity headlines, ffs.