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A Microsoft employee has created an "unauthorised" Windows Mobile app to access a catch-up TV service in Australia. The Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) is the country's largest public broadcaster and its official iview player app is only available on iOS and Android. The Windows Phone app, iview FTW!, is the …

  1. jnemesh

    just another case of MS flogging their dead platform...

    This is similar to the you tube app debacle... MS can't get support for their crap phone platform that no one is buying, so they go ahead and make "unofficial" versions without permission. Which would be OK if they were making a calculator app or, say a flappy bird clone... But when you tap into someone else's content? That crosses a huge red line... How would MS themselves react if an unauthorized app tapped into bing or azure without permission? MS should know better, and I hope they get sued over this... Hiding behind the employee is pretty shady too! What is with MS these days???

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: just another case of MS flogging their dead platform...

      Seriously?

      I paid through my taxes for this content already, and it'd be great to be able to watch it on a device of my choosing - iPad, Android tablet, WinPhone8.

      I can't watch iView from overseas without VPN jigggerypokery - this looks to be the same.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: just another case of MS flogging their dead platform...

        it'd be great to be able to watch it on a device of my choosing

        If only there was some way of downloading iView content for later consumption. If there was it'd probably be called iViewNapper or something like that. Possibly.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: just another case of MS flogging their dead platform...

      "But when you tap into someone else's content? That crosses a huge red line"

      The content is already available to view if you simply navigate to the website using the phones browser. All the You Tube and iVew app do is provide a native app to allow access like all other devices. Broadcasting rights are not device dependent, ABC do not purchase the rights to show Prisoner Cell Block H only on TV, Android and iPhone they purchase the right to air that show on TV and to stream the content within Australia, so there is no reason why a vodafone user with an iPhone should be able to view the content where as a winphone user on the same network can't.

      1. Chad H.

        Re: just another case of MS flogging their dead platform...

        "so there is no reason why a vodafone user with an iPhone should be able to view the content where as a winphone user on the same network can't."

        Except the value in spending money to test on that platform to ensure comaptibility...

  2. P. Lee
    Paris Hilton

    > That the platform lacks an official iview application may be one reason for low local takeup.

    /giggle

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Couple of comments after using the phone version:

    - have to be on an Australian IP address (just like the other OS versions, with all the downsides that that technique has)

    - doesn't directly support saving the content (just like the other OS versions, with the same potential for mischief for those so inclined)

    - looks like it is a universal app - or at least the same layout as the Win8.1 version.

  4. dotdavid
    WTF?

    The ABC, through a spokes-entity, told us

    Struggling to think of what it was that was telling you things that couldn't be described as a spokesperson. Was it a Playmolawyer?

  5. xyz Silver badge

    Erm...

    If you're on all you can eat data, there's a free TV app in win store that lets you watch live TV from umpteen countries (well there's about a 90 sec delay), so no need for any catch up malarkey. There's an android version of this too. No names but it's a belter esp. for viewing F1 without becoming a Murdochian or like I'm doing, watching Spanish TV in order to help me learn Spanish.

    Les fanbois of the Jade(d) Garden are certainly missing out these days being stuck in 2007 and all.

  6. Longrod_von_Hugendong
    Devil

    I think this quote sums it all up...

    "on the devices and platforms they own and love."

    Exactly - iOS and Android.

    Windows Phone - the Ralph Wiggum of the phone world.

    1. wowfood
      Trollface

      Re: I think this quote sums it all up...

      That's just cruel. Ralph gets bullied enough, no need to compare him to WP

    2. Chad H.

      Re: I think this quote sums it all up...

      Ralph is adorable and cute. Windows Phone is neither.

  7. Cipher

    Having a hard time...

    ... understanding how a 5% market share is due to not being able to watch one TV channel on the MS phone.

    Really?

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    This is the whole problem with the app approach. If you access a service using an app that isn't official you get all of this "un-authorised access" crap.

    If you use a web browser then it's deemed acceptable.

    1. Nick Ryan Silver badge

      ...and without looking at it, I wonder if this app is just a wrapper around the HTML components that make up the website accessible version?

    2. Phil_Evans

      Ah but using an API gives you soooooo much more control over insertions of ad-streams, sorry, 'partner content'. These are never technical decisions, purely commercial, always Orwellian.

  9. returnmyjedi

    Tom Hollander?

    Nice to see his branching out now that Rev. has come to a close.

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Microsoft Lawyers Strike Again

    Soon to rebrand as Microsoft iCatchup v1.0.0.1.0.0.A Update 2 and $9.99 from the store and nothing to the developer. Probably in his contract that anything developed, M$ have first shout in owning !

  11. Simon Harris
    Unhappy

    iView FTW!

    From the windows phone store page, it seems that now it's been withdrawn, Aussie WinPhone users will no longer be able to catch up with Peppa Pig.

    Oh the humanity!

    1. returnmyjedi

      Re: iView FTW!

      Meh, Ben and Holly is much better anyways.

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    WP8, is it really that bad?

    "MS can't get support for their crap phone platform that no one is buying...."

    Serious question.... does everybody really find Windows Phone that bad? As a long time daily Linux user I went straight for an Android phone (Moto G) when I returned from expatriotism and a land of feature phones. I found Android a frustrating experience, especially as it seemed like my phone had an identity crisis and clearly forgotten it was a phone.

    Anyway, a briefcase theft later and I bought a Lumia 630 as a replacement. Okay, so trying to get it to sync with Linux is not great but Windows Phone feels far more intuitive than Android, it's fast, I haven't found any preinstalled crapware yet and the applications fit a phones purpose well.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: WP8, is it really that bad?

      Doesn't really matter, as it says in the article only 5% use it in Australia so the description of 'their crap phone platform that no one is buying' is correct

      Does depend on your definition of crap, worse than that version x of Android or IOS7 or just not fit for purpose. Might totally depend on the phone, not just the OS of course. Maybe the Lumia630 is wonderful in terms of how it utilises Windows OS but others are awful?

      1. cambsukguy

        Re: WP8, is it really that bad?

        By the same token of percentages that you mistakenly use it makes macBooks and Linux machines crap too.

        Since both Linux and OS X seem to be perfectly adequate systems it suggests that percentage penetration is not an indicator of fitness-for-purpose or even superiority (according the Linux fans here at least).

        For instance, if your need is that maps are on the phone, free and available in almost every country on earth, then WP might well be at the top of your list. if you wish it tied to voice-driven navigation, traffic and the rest of the OS/Apps then even more so.

        If you want nice designs or a very good camera, or both, then a Lumia WP phone may well be at the top of your list.

        I appreciate that other phones have useful features too, Waterproof(ish) phones are not a bad idea at all.

        In fact, WP has several apps that are not available on all other platforms, Photosynth is very cool for instance (iOS, not Android).

        The Nokia camera app is a very good app indeed.

        The signature people app is far, far better at integrating and coalescing all of the different mechanisms of communication that other OSs are rubbish at. The messaging app also does this, albeit less well (and I hear it is being discarded with 8.1).

        The live tiles work very well on a phone and are more sensible that widgets that may or may not be used on a given Android phone while iOS has nothing but passive icons requiring button presses for the simplest task.

        And, not to mention that the Office apps are real and free, along with cloud integration etc.

        Good design means better battery life than Android for sure and a slicker, nicer interface all around.

        Just because most people are sold by marketing and peer pressure doesn't mean that product that doesn't sell is not a good product - I have read good things about BB's later efforts for instance.

        And, for the record, there are few or zero apps that I want and don't have - always accepting that I may be missing out on the most wonderful things others are used to. Mostly it is specific apps (like the BST Hyde Park App for that specific festival - I managed to survive).

  13. Chad H.

    >>>>>He added: “My only motivation has been to ensure that Australians have access to the content they’ve already paid for as taxpayers on the devices and platforms *they own and love*.”

    Which would make sense if it wasn't a win mobile app....

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