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NBN Co's new roadmap, released yesterday, contained an interesting omission: no mention was made of a product offering domestic users the chance to pay for an optic fibre to be laid to their homes even if they live in an area where fibre-to-the-node (FTTN) will be built. The omission is interesting given Australia's …

  1. Winkypop Silver badge
    FAIL

    Just more FUD

    For all the whining and bitching about the NBN the Libs did in opposition, since taking over the LNP have managed to run it completely off the tracks.

    Bah-humbug to Turnbull and the Rolls Royce he drove in on.

  2. BlackKnight(markb)

    and another IT project bites the dust.

    it astounds me that people believed the libtards when they said the would build the nbn faster and cheaper by taking it back to the drawing board when the build was just starting to pick up the pace.

    how in the hell they expect this to be a viable business model when there now competing against telstra on the same playing field and some fibre providers in new estates has baffled me.

    I thought business 101 was to bring something new to the market with your startup if you wanted it to work. not compete with established competition with there embedded technology.

    1. Jason Ozolins

      Sigh... these points would indeed be damning criticisms if there was any good evidence they actually wanted the NBN to succeed. Their attitudes to it progressed more or less from outright mockery to witless objections to grudging skepticism to bold claims they could do just as well yet quicker and cheaper through the cunning strategy of moping wistfully at Telstra until it cut them a sweet deal on some suddenly valuable infrastructure.

      They don't want it it make money. They want voters to get bored and disillusioned from the wait, and then let it die.

  3. AlexM

    UK vs Aus

    Remember, the liberals were bought by Murdoch, who wants no competition on his Foxtel network, so any plan to pay to get fibre is now obviously canned. Yes, Malcom always quotes the BT network, are there any good sites for comparing FTTN and FTTH plans in the UK? would be good to compare UK plans with the Australian NBN plans from http://nbncompared.com.au

  4. Vulcon

    I thing you miscomprehend...

    “We are actively working on FTTN and HFC" does not suggest in any way they are working on FTTP products.

  5. rtb61

    The prime decision here is Australia's perceived technological competitiveness. How Australia presents itself to the world. Leading technology or cheap ass second rate solutions. If they are serious about attracting tech companies that must demonstrate this, forget 100Mb service they should be pushing 1 Gb service. They must demonstrate to tech companies they would lead.

    1. Paul 129

      100MB

      Is what everyone was getting with a passive optical network... Yes 6% of pundits could ask(pay) for more and get a dedicated fibre rather than one there sharing with, what was it? 16 other premisis.

      So you could then run it at a high speed. Yes in theory the switching gear could be upgraded, when new stuff comes out. But with the spend on building the NBN people would demand a return on investment, so how could upgrades NOT lag for a number of years before having the digital divide argument again.

      The NBN was being rolled out in Tas with so many complete stoppages that it made you wonder if Telsra was directly paying the union safety bods to make it fail. The contractors were being hellishly squeezed.... (Some hearsay rumor of $5K to clean a pit of chemicals used in the snotboxes,let lone asbestos, so perhaps the safety guys were making money)

      Anyway... With the setup final fibre connection to a house could take 4 or 5 seperate visits? Over a couple of months! OMG! A well laid out development plan or Money pit, You decide.

      But the devil IS in the detail

      1. JeffyPoooh
        Pint

        Re: 100MB

        175 Mbps. As promised. Reliable and confirmed with Speedtest. Yes, passive fibre shared with up to 16 homes. Dedicated bandwidth using some sort of TDMA.

        One crew fibred-up the neighbourhood, three workers and about 12 traffic controllers / safety folks. Another tech dropped by and strung the fibre from the pole, through the trees, to our house. The last guy dropped by to screw the ONT etc. to the panel and turn it on.

        Slick and efficient. Full marks.

  6. dshan
    FAIL

    Art of the Non-Answer

    I get no sense of reassurance from NBNCo's answer to your question. It was a non-answer, they didn't answer the question! We already *know* they're working on FTTN and HFC "solutions", that's what the new, "improved" Mal-and-Tony's-cheap-and-cheerful NBN is all about after all. That's not what was asked, the question was ignored for meaningless PR-speak.

    Why would anyone get any reassurance from that? In six months they could turn around and announce their wondrous new "solutions" which just happen to not include any fibre-to-YOUR-premises options, or fibre options that are absurdly expensive and of very limited availability, and still claim to have met their announced obligations. Because they never committed to anything in this area, aside from their pre-election blatherings of course, and we all know now what they're worth...

  7. JeffyPoooh
    Pint

    Many good examples of FTTH

    Bell Aliant FibreOP being strung all over Atlantic Canada.

    Technology, finance, and outsourcing much of the installation.

    It's even being run to low density neighbourhoods in the forest.

    Study examples such as this; they've figured it out.

  8. Glen Turner 666

    NBNCo was founded in 2009. It is now 2014 and they still can't tell you what their product is.

    The Liberal Party have -- by design -- turned the NBN project into a massive IT failure.

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