NASA probe orbiting Moon sights ANOTHER SPACECRAFT

"there are thousands of ufo videos on youtube, NASA space camera blur and fuzz would be hard to fake on its own, some of them are probably real"

Funny, I've personally saw UFO's that were real.

They were identified as objects that "You didn't see that and that is a direct order."

AKA, classified military aircraft.

Some of which are well established to operate out of Old Blighty.

Re: "... a spacecraft flying over the Moon ..."

I'll snip, by a fuck ton, as it was a rather long tirade.

"but if it's been very long I'm nearly certain you've heard someone call the box/tower/enclosure of a desktop the 'processor'."

Whenever they did, I rapidly corrected them. It is a COMPUTER. If they repeat that error, I'm enough of a BOFH to pull the processor out and hand it to the offender, ESD be damned. They'll also end up paying for that processor.

How about calling a server(s) a 'mainframe'? It's a sure sign that person is about to say something confirming the rest of your time with them is going to absolutely suck.

I've *never* heard technical staff call a server a mainframe. That is grounds for immediate dismissal, as they have no fucking clue as to what the hell they are talking about and most likely, no clue what they are doing.

"In physical engineering you'll hear people talk about the 'strength' or 'strength to weight ratio' of a material "

May the negligent landlord almighty suddenly acquire interest to help them, for I'll bombard them on what strength they're speaking of. Tensile? Shear? Longitudinal? Compression? I could go on, but it'd be boorish.

Any asshole who tries that one with me has a really, *really* bad day. They also never get to waste my time again.

"With ultra obscure fields it isn't that important, because nobody understands what those people do anyway."

That *is* my career, currently. I work in information security.

My first and primary job really is education!

"Pick any national political figure talking about more jobs in (sector)"

Who the fuck really listens to politicians? Their only real skill is being reelected! Otherwise, they'd be in careers that contribute *and* make far better money and far less having to remember which damned lie they told yesterday.

"Nuclear Waste vs High Level Nuclear Waste."

Six of one, a half dozen of the other. It all comes down to storage methods and willingness to reprocess the shit.

Of course, managing to get through the "Not in *MY* neighborhood" bullshit (when many of the same type of idiot live in such a neighborhood anyway.

"I can NIMBY the new facility out of existence or I can support it. I bill $5k/hr for corporate policy work and $20k/hr (one hour minimum) for public appearances. "

Good for you! I am envious! Well, not envious enough to want to make public appearances. I far prefer to speak to and with professionals, not Athenian idiots.

That said, I'm honestly not entirely certain that we agree or that you know what you're going on about.

I'll continue, as I was previously a BOFH, who cowed the devil into subservience.

OK, I just enjoy being difficult and have nothing more constructive to do on a Sunday night.

Being married for over 32 years tends to eliminate a personal life.

"My body language and simple 10 word statements will let me keep them and knock you down every time you pop up."

You're not the only person around who knows those techniques. That I choose to not address the public does not mean I am incapable of doing so.

A few cutting comments can trivially undermine your point within seconds.

One just needs to be willing to be a dick.

I'm a father, a grandfather and a former senior NCO. I have no problem being a dick when required to.

Worse, I'll use folksy terms, creative metaphors and other endearing traits to win the audience. It wouldn't be my first rodeo, it shan't be my last.

"That's obviously a bit convoluted, the details of particulate transport via short term molecular bonding will only put your audience in a coma. All I have to explain is how radioactive materials get into groundwater and end up inside your baby because when you boiled baby's bottles to sterilize them for mommy's breast milk their state was plasticized long enough to trap millions of tiny little nuclear reactors in the bottles."

I'll pull a lead fishing weight from my pocket. Or a mercury thermometer. I have both onhand.

I'll remark how horrifically toxic both are. Then ask the audience why I'm not dead.

As I said, one comment undermining. Add in pictures of my grandchildren holding the same items, I've won, you have to really work hard now.

"My point is, that without correct and precise language, you are needlessly destabilizing any point you are trying to make."

Bullshit. You speak to your audience. In this forum, technical people are the primary audience.

In forums where non-technical people abound, you "Goober it down". I've taught combat engineers and infantry how to administer drugs, initiate IV's and test and purify water. All rather complex, technical subjects. You address the audience at their level, explain in simplified terms what and why.

I never told infantry to check for turbidity and clarity of the water sample, I said, "Look to see if it's clear, are there any sea monkeys in it?"

Two decades later, I had men come up to me and mention that wording. Not a one had a water borne disease outbreak.

"Why do you think that elected officials and corporate executives rarely say anything in public that resembles normal Human speech; Nobody actually talks like that."

I'll nitpick there. Since nobody speaks like that, elected officials and corporate executives don't speak that way by your very sentence.

Now, "regular people" don't speak that way, "professionals don't speak that way" would be more accurate, but I'm being both pedantic and being a prick.

Largely due to the TLDR bit that I obviously have read.

"Lastly, using the correct language is simply good manners and a sign of respect to those who practice in those professions. Personally, I find it just atrociously insulting when people challenge/question the abilities of individuals in a field, but don't even make an attempt to get the language correct."

In that, I fully agree!

"I don't have people telling me what to do anymore,"

Bullshit. If you speak in a public forum by invitation and for pay, there are things that you can and may be told are out of bounds. Violate those terms, you shan't be speaking in public for very long on a financially remunerated basis.

"I don't have people telling me what to do anymore, but for the many decades that I did I never forgot the truly black, soul crushing hatred I had for my first direct corporate manager. He could not, or would not, acknowledge the difference between an empty field and a null field. We were integrating the systems of a company we had acquired into our own and even I understood we had been screwed. It was grammar school database design, comprised of more null's than complete data. Just broken, not fixable, totally fucked in other ways too. This ass threatens my job and tells me how he wants the integration done. Exactly how he wants it done. The level of detail was phenomenal and his charts were beautiful. They were indispensable six weeks later as I was defending my job and explaining how a company with zero system wide downtime in 10+ years was completely nonoperational for five days."

Been there, done that. But, I crushed the asshole by having him explain a null field and empty field. Repeatedly, in different orders to trip the asshole up.

Thankfully, I've never gotten a five day outage, half a day was bad enough and took a lot of scrambling to recover from.

But then, another thing about me is this: At my last long term gig, one NA/SA had complimented me thus:

"Steve, when you started, two years ago, I thought you were the plumber coming in to fix the toilet. Now, we *all* come to you for answers and we did even then."

I love to be underestimated. I'm quite bright. I also know how to look things up and learn quickly.

I also did fix the toilet, as it quickly started to piss me off. Being in a desert was bad enough, having a broken toilet was intolerable.

Though, I did let the plumber take credit.

My father was a tradesman, I learned a lot of things from him.

"I've had staff that didn't like me and I've had staff that thought I was stupid and they were better fits for my job, but never, not once in so very many years, have I not taken the time to at least understand the basics and try use the proper language with my staff."

Same here. I'd set aside what I was doing just to help them all out. Whenever I needed help, I had a full court press assisting.

When I started my information security duties, I included the PC break-fix shop, the LAN/WAN shop and help desk in on threat briefings, with specifics, as cleared. Much of that was classified, so each audience was addressed as permissible.

Cooperation was automatic once the problems were understood.

"Appropriate and precise language, and the consistent application of its rules, allows you draw boundaries around a topic and keep the discussion within those boundaries. "

I'm a prick that way. Even if I'm speaking with a stone mason about concrete, I'll stay technically correct.

Of course, my father did educate me in that field as well.

My life is that of an information sponge. Learn all that is learn-able, for knowledge is power.

But, one also addresses an audience to its capabilities and comprehension.

Hence, some will always know to look through water and also try to see sea monkeys. And the proper concentration of chlorine. And the proper PH. And sedimentation factor.

Even if they didn't comprehend those numbers and what they actually meant.

Or, "eventually, he'll run out of that nasty red stuff. Then, we'll have a real problem, well, *he* will, anyway. You'll just have a lot of explaining to do to your and his buddies."