Just bubbles from the sinking ship....
Finally! How to make Android USABLE: Install BlackBerry OS 10.2
The biggest update to BlackBerry OS 10 so far – version 10.2 – includes more than 300 changes, from new features to fixes for many niggles. In contrast to the the spasmodic and lengthy rollout phase of earlier releases, BlackBerry seems to have got its act together here, removing roadblocks between its servers and users: 10.2 …
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Friday 25th October 2013 02:54 GMT Keyboard warrior
Not sure you know what you are talking about here...you cannot sideload Android conversions into the Work area, they will only be installed on the personal side and as such sensitive work information such as emails. calendar, contracts, intranet etc, cannot be accessed. This is also the case for Android ports that are downloaded from BB World.
BB10 has been certified by numerous agencies around the world as secure - however if you have any proof to the contrary please publish it.
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Friday 25th October 2013 13:04 GMT Anonymous Coward
"BB10 has been certified by numerous agencies around the world as secure - however if you have any proof to the contrary please publish it."
BB10 was already completely compromised by a Flash exploit. They fixed that, but it demonstrates that the architecture is not sandboxed, and that once compromised the device is owned. Unlike say a WIndows Phone, where even if you get root access you cant change any binaries and still load them...
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Saturday 26th October 2013 01:23 GMT Jerry G.
I have been using a Z10 since it came out. There have been a number of update of the OS. So-far I have had excellent results with the phone and like it a lot!
I am running a number of Android apps in the Z10. They have to be what they call, "side loaded". They work very well.
I am considering the Z30 to have a slightly larger screen. My question would be is if it is worth the extra cost for this.
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Thursday 31st October 2013 23:34 GMT Jerry G.
You are right. I am using both the Z10 and the Z30 for my work.
The Blackberry phone is extremely secure. Android apps run in what we can call their own sand-box if you understand my description. All apps allowed to run on the Blackberry device must be approved and authorised by Blackberry.
I will not abandon using Blackberry phones. The enterprise I work for is using Blackberry phones for any type of business where security is important.
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Thursday 24th October 2013 18:52 GMT Steve Davies 3
BB's saviour?
Release a build that can be installed on say, Samsung Android phones and still let the user have full access to Android apps.
Ok, I know this is heresy but put yourself in BB's shoes. What can you do to make people love your system without them having to shell out for the phone.
Desperate times and all that?
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Friday 25th October 2013 06:37 GMT bazza
Re: BB's saviour?
@ Steve Davies 3,
"Release a build that can be installed on say, Samsung Android phones and still let the user have full access to Android apps."
Er, you do know this is an article about the BlackBerry operating system, not about the recent BBM port to Android and iOS?
From what I understand of BB's architecture there's hardware features in BB's phones that support the operating system's security model. Without those hardware features the phone wouldn't be as secure. Porting BB10 to a Samsung might not be possible without ruining the security model.
BB have offered manufacturers BB10 under license, but so far there's been no takers. Understandable - Android is effectively 'free' and clearly good enough to attract a healthy market. BB10 wouldn't be free.
On the topic of money, I think it's astonishing how much money Google aren't making out of Android. They do all the work, but it seems that Samsung are the guys making all the money. Google clearly do make some money, but they're effectively missing out one many gigadollars that are being banked by Samsung.
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Friday 25th October 2013 09:25 GMT Test Man
Re: BB's saviour?
"On the topic of money, I think it's astonishing how much money Google aren't making out of Android. They do all the work, but it seems that Samsung are the guys making all the money. Google clearly do make some money, but they're effectively missing out one many gigadollars that are being banked by Samsung."
You forget that they don't need direct money from Android - they make money from all the location and advertising data they get from all copies of Android out there. That's the point and a good strategy - make the OS free to get manufacturers to use it and use the data you obtain to sell packaged data to others.
So no, they are not missing out on money.
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Friday 25th October 2013 18:36 GMT bazza
Re: BB's saviour?
No, Google don't need to make direct money from Android, not so long as their shareholders haven't figured out where it's all going.
Google made $10billion in 2012, not bad for an ad broker. However Samsung are making more like $30billion. A very big chunk of that $30billion is courtesy of Android, yet it isn't in Google's shareholders' pockets. Samsung galaxy wouldn't be doing anything like that much business without Android. How long before Google's shareholders start wanting a slice of that pie?
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Saturday 26th October 2013 01:23 GMT Jerry G.
Re: BB's saviour?
From the many articles that I have been reading over the last year, it seems Google is making their tons of money by selling user demographic information. When using their operating system, their web pages, and their mail services they are collecting user information. This information is based on what they have viewed on their computer screen, the searches they made, and the purchases they made. They gather all of this through the usage of cookies, and when using their services.
The information they gather is demographic only. At the most they can know is the computer itself as a hardware device, but not more than that. They are not interesting in our names and the exact address where we live. When considering the billions of searches and views from the many hundreds of millions of users, it would not be practical by any means to know exactly every person individually.
If users were to absolutely object to allowing demographic information to be collected, we would end up having to pay for every decent web page we visit. The web page operators have to have the income from their web sites to be able to earn a living and pay their expenses. Otherwise there would be no good quality services on the net.
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Friday 25th October 2013 13:06 GMT Anonymous Coward
Because Android is far from 'slick and smooth', it's laggy as hell.
There is no substitute for experience - try a dual core Android phone then try the dual core Z10. The web browsing is silky smooth (even the new Nexus 7 stutters when zooming in on a webpage - the Z10 doesn't!), try it for yourself.
The Z10 and Q10 are simply priced too high - thats the main problem.
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Friday 25th October 2013 13:04 GMT Big_Ted
Tempting....
Expansys has the Z10 for £255 delivered, makes it a tempting alternative to an android phone except that the Nexus 5 at around the same price will stop me buying one. Sorry BB but you were just too slow getting this OS out the door, if it had come out 18 months ago you would most likely still be a strong number 3 and pushing at number 2 if you could get into developing markets.
Now however............
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Friday 25th October 2013 15:11 GMT Big_Ted
Re: Why?
What ?
What OS is a copy of what other OS ?
Linux is a unix clone not origional that has had open source developement and comes on many different forms.
QNX the basis of BB10 is an original OS developed for real time applications.
So your wron at the start, as for Ubuntu for phones what a waste, hardly any apps now or ever and all the restrictions of linux already ie no Netflix etc due to DRM.......
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Friday 25th October 2013 17:17 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Why?
"...hardly any apps now or ever and all the restrictions of linux already ie no Netflix etc due to DRM......"
That is a restriction of GNU/Linux? Hmm, must be similar to your restriction to learn anything about GNU/Linux. BTW, how do you find the time to post here without a start button? Wait, you upgraded.
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Saturday 26th October 2013 23:37 GMT Richard Plinston
Re: Why?
> So? None of that necessarily makes QNX a UNIX clone.
The same can be said of Linux. It can't directly run Unix binaries either.
QNX runs on a Unix like filesystem which is inode based, which VMS does not. VMS's Posix is a conversion layer on top of the OS. In QNX it is native, because QNX is a Unix clone.
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Friday 25th October 2013 15:57 GMT Sporkinum
BB
My employer only does Jesus-phones and Blackberries, depending on network availability. Where I live, the carrier doesn't have Jesus-phones or the 10 Blackberries, so I carry a Curve. There aren't a whole lot of people here still carrying them, so not worth the effort to update the BES. That being said,the 2 year old Torch I carried got lost last week, so I was issued a new Curve. It works fine for me, and I like the fact of how small it is. Smaller than a Jesus-phone, and smaller than the old Torch. 7.1 OS seems ok to me, but all I do is phone, mail, and endomondo.