Transcript disappears minister's 'hack-proof' ID register claim

I'd never have believed it

The government, editing a transcript to put themselves in a better light. narrgh, no way, they wouldn't stoop so low. This government understands it security fantastically well and no way would they have made such a big gaffe. The new transcript must be accurate. Everyone knows we have an honest government, one we can trust to keep our best interests at hear.

AHHHHHHHH

Sorry, nearly got hit by a trotter, damn pigs swooping down too low again.

'hack-proof' = 'Hack-Me'

It should not have been described as Hack-Proof in the first place. Removing 'hack-proof' from the transcript might go a little way to making it more secure.

Saying a network is not connected to the Internet is likely to be wrong. If the national database is accessable from a PC rather than a dedicated terminal then it will be connected to the Internet whether that was the intention or not. It would only take one PC with Internet and National ID to form a bridge or route to the Internet. If that PC is pwn'd then the hacker can spend months or years working on a way into the National Database.

You really must keep up!

How can you possibly dream that such material alterations could have taken place in the record for Hansard, never mind attempt to scurrilously create such misleading confusion in the sheople. Clearly, the words were never spoken and you people have, with malice, attempted to corrupt the true message of calm and safety this Government promotes. There will be no peace for you when we have your details on our un-hackable isolated database.

independent records

the debates etc. should be streamed live so that independent organisations can record and archive them. The House of Commons and House of Lords should also be charged with recording and archiving the debates and hearings and these recordings should be "tamper proof". Any attempt to have them edited to fit later wishes should be viewed as contempt of the House involved.

So...

how much more has been 'polished' out of the 'records'.

And who approves the polish / final issue?

So much for "Open and Transparent" government!

Sorry, slipping into fantasyland again.

Still, it goes to prove that you CAN polish a turd!

Ungood

I wonder if the government keeps an audio record of utterances in the Commons. Presumably the typists at Hansard work from recordings of the debates - if they were typed directly in real time, there would be no way to replay muffled sections - and I wonder what happens to the recordings. A year's worth of mono compressed audio wouldn't take up very much space, perhaps they could put it up on the internet version of Hansard as a "click here to listen" thing.

Of course, audio can be erased and edited, and it might be that the ministers will subvert the process, perhaps by holding up pieces of paper with "multiply my figures by two" written on them etc. But it would at least give the appearance of veracity.

Ministry of Truth

I sometimes think the current crop of muppets we have running this country see 1984 as a howto rather than a cautionary tale as I am sure it was intended.

It's simple really....

“ ...this word has two mutually contradictory meanings. Applied to an opponent, it means the habit of impudently claiming that black is white, in contradiction of the plain facts. Applied to a Party member, it means a loyal willingness to say that black is white when Party discipline demands this. But it means also the ability to believe that black is white, and more, to know that white is black, and to forget that one has ever believed the contrary. This demands a continuous alteration of the past, made possible by the system of thought which really embraces all the rest, and which is known in Newspeak as doublethink. ”

—Orwell, 1984

We will certainly need secure IDs...

Now that we've declared war on Oceania... sorry, I mean Eurasia. We are at war with Eurasia, we have always been at war with Eurasia.

Thumbs up to say "Go BB! and all other glorious members of IngSoc."

Ministry of Magic

I'm sorry, strange disapearences, people being forced to say things they don't mean?

The Death Eaters have hacked the Ministry of Magic and are bringing the Muggles to their knees, ready for HE Who Must Not be Named to come to power.

It's the ONLY sensible conclusion, how else can anyone explain it?

Skll and Cross-bones because thats whats coming people, thats whats coming....

How can the NIR....

...not be connected to the internet? Isn't it going to be composed of 3 already existing databases which are probably connected? A new database may be but one cobbled together out of dodgy bits, never

So weak

So "Zanu" Labour have nobbled Hansard (again)? This is becoming a habit.

So what? It's hardly a first, Ed B*ll*s did it only the other week.

I suppose they'll soon introduce a bill to ensure Hansard records are stored on a "secure, hack proof database, not connected to the Internet" - but then again it's only a matter of time before they go and lose some unencrypted CD's in transit to the NAO ;^)

don't worry about the internet connectivity

Take one look at the figures that Geer and Conway came up with in their recent "Beware the ID s of March" paper and you soon realize that where the govt is concerned, issues relating to ID theft are far more likely to come from simple bumbling incompetence, such as leaving a laptop in a taxi, than they are to come from active hacks over the net.

http://geer.tinho.net/ieee.geer.0803.pdf

Not Accessible

They mean it'll have a terrible user interface.

No conspiracy here - move along now...

There's no story here. Hansard has never been a verbatim transcript of what is said in Parliament. It often has to tidy up the messy grammar and incoherent ramblings that come out of the mouths of the Dear Leaders and their lackeys. So the intent of what was said gets recorded by Hansard rather than the actual words. Sometimes this is a near-impossible but essential public service: for instance translating fluent Prescott into English.

Hansard's tried to do Ms. Hillier a favour by deleting "hack-proof" from the record because this is clearly a ridiculous and impossible assertion.

typical

I'm seriously beginning to wonder if there's any point in democracy in this country anymore. Why vote when all we get are more mindless partyline toeing drones?! Perhaps what we need is for any minister to actually have relevant and extensive experience in the field that is governed by their department.

Can we not have judges overseeing legal proposals by govt? Doctors running the NHS, teachers running education and perhaps, just maybe, JUST MAYBE.. geeks running IT policy?

But clearly this is all wishful thinking, Zanu Labour PF are so obviously utterly incompetent that all we'll get out of them is more tabloid pandering bollocks.

Mine's the one with a one-way ticket to New Zealand in the top pocket.