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People who access the internet through the anonymizing Tor network are much more likely to be up to no good than are typical internet users, according to a study by online reputation–tracking firm Iovation. The company announced on Tuesday that 30.2 per cent of the transactions it logged as coming from the Tor network during …

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  1. Anonymous Coward
    FAIL

    el reg fondled by cats-paw 'study'

    "if Tor's reputation for being rife with bad actors grows ..."

    It just did.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: el reg fondled by cats-paw 'study'

      Not so sure!... More than two thirds of the traffic routed over an anonymising networking is legit! I found that surprising.

      "bad actors" : honest people who want the NSA & friends to keep the fuck out of their business

      1:2

      Looks like an essential public service for the moral majority to me.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: el reg fondled by cats-paw 'study'

        So one third of the specific type of traffic was proved to be illegitimate compared with 'normal' traffic which was 1% i.e. a ratio 33:1 'bad actors'. Quite what the remaining 2/3rds of TOR comprised is not clear, there may even have been to 'legitimate' users, perhaps, maybe.

        Maybe they even share copies of films, 'music', etc.things that are too crap to purchase.

        So correcting your errors,

        --

        "bad actors" : dishonest people who want someone else's bank to pay for their purchases [then delete this rabid irrelevant claptrap "the NSA & friends to keep the fuck out of their business"]

        Looks like undesirable anti-public service for the immoral minority to me.

        --

        There, now that's a bit better.

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      2. Pookietoo
        Black Helicopters

        Re: want the NSA & friends to keep the fuck out

        You're assuming that the NSA isn't running a significant proportion of the Tor network?

    2. LarsG

      Will not be long

      Will not be long before ISP's are forced to ban its use.......

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Will not be long

        > Will not be long before ISP's are forced to ban its use.......

        Heroic security researchers have discovered that evil terrorist software called Tor is being accidentally used by the dear children to circumvent your benevolent government "porn" protection filter and expose themselves to grooming by predators... ISPs have begun disincentivising its use for your protection and to protect the children.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Well knock me down with a feather.

    Gosh... miscreants indulging in fraud try to conceal their identities!!!!!one!!! Someone give the monkeys an Ig Nobel.

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: Well knock me down with a feather.

      s / tor / cash /

  3. Old Handle

    Kind of vague

    What sort of fraud are they talking about here?

    Like if I sign up through on some website for lawful purposes but give the name John Doe, would that be fraud? Because, duh, obviously people who use Tor care about their privacy and would do that kind of thing all the time.

    Or are we talking about like credit card fraud, spamming, or some such that actually hurts the business in question and/or other people?

    1. Mystic Megabyte

      Re: Kind of vague

      Kinder like Google badgering me to give up more personal details so that I can be in G+ whatever that is.

      Er, no thanks Google.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Kind of vague

      Of course its kind of vague, its FUD glorious FUD. Where is the study, the link on their website is another "Poster Piece" for selling their wares. No data, no references and even if you believe that they have 1.5 billion machines listening for "non specific" fraudulent traffic, that means that their estimate is based on seeing almost 1/2 the internet, which is better than the NSA.

      4 Billion address, i can see 1.5 billion of them, Pah!

      Where is Radio 4's more or less when you need them?

  4. Khaptain Silver badge

    Killing the messenger

    Why don't these "studies" ever seem to focus on the real cause of problems.

    If people want to use porn : Ask yourself WHY.

    If people want to use drugs : Ask yourself WHY.

    If people want to buy guns : Ask yourself WHY.

    Maybe just maybe, there are a lot of very unhappy people on this planet. Seriously ask yourself why and then go about finding solutions to help the poor buggers. Telling them that Bill gates now has 72 Billion in the bank, oe that Abramovich has the worlds 3 largest yachts is not a solution.

  5. Mitoo Bobsworth
    Stop

    So...

    Is there a comparative study for fraudulent traffic on the 'normal' interwebs? I'm betting the percentages will be very similar.

    1. Elmer Phud

      Re: So...

      'Normal' interwebs is 'Incentivising your market potential', TOR is for bad people.

      The usual scams and traps on 'normal' are merely making the most of a business opportunity.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Obviously, if you're trying to hide something

    then you're guilty by default.

    Particulary if that something is simply your right to privacy as enshrined in European Law.

    1. Pascal Monett Silver badge
      Black Helicopters

      The NSA doesn't care about European Law, or any law, for that matter.

      Wait ! . . . Do I hear helicopters ?

      1. channel extended
        Trollface

        First Law

        The only law the NSA cares about is

        DON'T GET CAUGHT!

  7. iSadLusa

    So, by similar reasoning, the spook services are much, *much* more likely to be up to no good than are typical Internet users?

    1. Khaptain Silver badge

      The Spooks (Ok the military) invented TOR , kinda stands to reason.

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