history again...
just send the convicts!!
A Netherlands-based non-profit group called Mars One is seeking video applications from pioneers willing to take a one-way trip to Mars and become stars in a new interplanetary reality show. "This will be the biggest thing that humanity has ever done. In 15 years people will still be watching," Mars One's co-founder Bas …
How are they going to balance the intelligent, mentally stable people they'd need for a mission like this who don't normally make good reality TV subjects with the moronic, egotistical, mental trainwrecks who are normally chosen for reality TV programmes?
I'm sure if watching astronauts training made good reality TV either NASA or the Russians would have done it years ago to boost funds.
It is for a TV show so you don't want mentally stable people, you want the crazy asshole that will open the airlock. Besides, there are huge chances that anyone young enough & sad enough to sign up for a one way trip to Mars will (hopefully) have found happiness 15 years from now and will not want to leave all that behind.
> But if the crazy asshole opens the airlock won't that be the end of the show?
There'll always be someone on the team who's smuggled an AK47 onto the ship, reday to blow away any dirty commie who opens the airlock or criticizes the flag. Probably disguised as a nun or something.
How are they going to balance the intelligent, mentally stable people they'd need for a mission like this
Even if they start out as intelligent and stable, they won't stay that way long once they've been exiled to a caravan on an airless freezing ball of rock with three other human beings as their only company for the rest of their lives.
If there's no plan to retrieve any colonists, they'd better send quite a few more than that at a time.
How are they going to balance the intelligent, mentally stable people they'd need for a mission like this
Well, that would not be necessary Mr. President. It could easily be accomplished with a computer. And a computer could be set and programmed to accept factors from youth, health, sexual fertility, intelligence, and a cross section of necessary skills. Of course it would be absolutely vital that our top government and military men be included to foster and impart the required principles of leadership and tradition. Slams down left fist. Right arm rises in stiff Nazi salute. Arrrrr! Restrains right arm with left. Naturally, they would breed prodigiously, eh? There would be much time, and little to do. But ah with the proper breeding techniques and a ratio of say, ten females to each male, I would guess that they could then work their way back to the present gross national product within say, twenty years.
Self sustainability will be key. I would not like to be waiting for supply ships. There will be a need to import a whole ecology. Psychology experts could probably tell us the minimum amount of people needed to stop them going mad too.
Hmmm, just a thought, if no one had a cold or flu when they arrived would they be free of it forever more?
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I'd be more concerned about it being a one way trip funded by a corporation who you NEED to stay financially viable for the entirety of your life otherwise you'll end up eating your "house mates" and eventually starving/suffocating. That's assuming Jack doesn't start typing out pages of "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy" into a computer first.
Given the attention span of the average human, this may get awesome ratings for the landing, and probably first year or two, but when all they're doing is eating, shitting and sleeping, those ratings are going to drop off rapidly until they start dieing - granted this may be accelerated by the Jack situation.
> eating, shitting and sleeping,
I suspect there'd be a 4th activity, especially if they've sent a mixed-sex group. That will always make for good TV, especially if they're of an exhibitionist bent. Dogging on Mars?
The first few folks out there would probably have to agree to compulsory vasectomies, though, or there'd be worrying problems later.
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Second Nature and Normal to Martians does sort of dictate a Sweet Sticky Surrender and Submission to Pleasures with Alien Treasure Holders in Universally Strange Space Arrangements.
Of course, if one realises that the concept/show is a military program spin off, does such ensure and assure and insure one of civilian success in the rendering for realisation of complex conceptual actualities and New Future WorldZ Virtual AIMachine ProgramMING?
Which all says quite a lot, in quite a confined space, and that sort of thing tends towards situations and/or predicaments being volatile and explosive. :-)
All in all, done properly is it guaranteed to be a huge market hit routing stocks and shares putting big business in panic and turmoil.
Not really. In Robinson's Mars trilogy, the first settlers were sent as a classic governement-funded mission, with US and Russia jointly running it, and there was no 24h reality TV involved (although the crew was expected to prepare broadcasts to Earth, just like current NASA etc. astronauts). On the other hand, the book is so old the Big Brother show had not yet been invented.
As one of the few less-credible details in the otherwise rock-hard sci-fi book series, the ship the settlers travel on sounded like a luxury cruise liner, compared to what has actually been planned, there was even space for a garden, and a stowaway traveller...
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... HOW many billion dollars, exactly, to park a few un-trained idiots ex-planet, just to watch 'em die? If anybody is actually stupid enough to be willing to go on such a suicide mission, I'm pretty certain that building a sound-stage, and then offing them here on Terra, would be a piece of cake ... for a lot less money. And the fucking idiots involved would probably actually believe they were dying on Mars ... as would the morons in the audience.
Does anyone, anywhere, still believe that over-produced, over hyped, so-called "reality-TV" is un-scripted?
"... HOW many billion dollars, exactly, to park a few un-trained idiots ex-planet, just to watch 'em die?"
Exactly. Bring back roman games I say, but with HD coverage. I'd even subscribe to Sky if they had Friday night gladitorial combat live from Millwall Colosseum. Now that wouldn't cost billions, and I bet there would be no shortage of people wanting a piece of the action.
I f I were to be a wannabe Martian and be lucky enough to be chosen, the sponsors are going to be making billions allowing the world population to watch me taking a dump on Mars; what will I be getting out of the one way trip to a planet with nothing on it to buy? Other than the opportunity to make one small dump for a man, one great (potential) environmental impact for Marskind.
I suppose guaranteed payments to the family back on Earth might make it interesting but going to spend the rest of your life, however long or short that may be, in the depths of space or on aplanet without a breathable atmosphere with 3 people you may come to hate would need pretty good compensation.
After all fame is not much use if you are not around to enjoy it.
And would I have any say about the opposite sex accompanying me, as the general concensus now is that such a journey should have a mixed crew?
I don't know how they would screen the people, but I hope they ensure its a 50:50 split male to female, and preferably couples...
Can you imagine what would happen on a one way trip with only 1 woman but 3 men?
anyone going should be going with the mind they are going to start the colonisation of mars!
I suspect a single woman say no to 3 men wanting sex daily... and even if the woman is up for it... would she be able to cope???
But a man? well no straight man would refuse 3 women taking advantage of him... sure it MIGHT get a bit sore on occasion, but there are plenty of ways to please a woman...
Plus for reproduction, its better to have 3 wombs available than 1... and sperm can be brought in a freezer for when its needed (to ensure genetic diversity)
>no straight man would refuse 3 women taking advantage of him
You mean 3 women demanding that the kitchen be cleaned, that clothes be picked up off the floor, that the garden be done, the car cleaned out, the door painted....
I only have one women taking advantage of me and I'm knackered
After all that suggests they have enough self awareness that they are attention seeking fame whores.
Now what about those who don't realize that?
Thumbs up for this as Spacex can always do with a bit more non-NASA money to stop them drifting into govt contractor land.
They're asking for SUITABLE people - people who can stand up under the rigors of the journey and then the actually landing and settling, all of which will take a strong mind and top physique. While the public will get to choose someone with a "bit of character", they won't be sending anyone with psychological problems or health problems for obvious reasons. I'm pretty sure a lot of those people will apply, but they won't get through the initial screening process. If reality show contestants could destroy the house and kill the show for another 15 years at a cost of $6 billion they'd screen them a lot more carefully too (although that would ironically make me more likely to pick up the phone and vote them in).
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I have to think that, at some point in this venture, insurance is going to have to be gotten for the spacecraft, the lives and health of the people involved - both the organizers and direct participants, insurance for contractors' (and astronaut-trainees') performance or non-performance, liability insurance, insurance for the advertisers who will buy time in advance that will help fund the venture, and more kinds things than I could possibly even think of. And if the insurance can't be gotten, then the entire project will not get off the ground. (See what I did there?)
And I can't see how anyone is going to risk it.
And there is also the question of what kind of government permits they will need (if any) and from what governments? And mightn't a company that gets involved with a stunt like this risk damaging their reputation as a serious space enterprise to such a degree that they will become a sort of pariah amongst space companies? Really, these people are being sent off to live on Mars and at the end of such a tenuous and fragile supply-chain, that the chance of them dying is almost a certainty - and those deaths might be kind of gruesome.
I can't really take the story seriously. Even if project is being seriously considered, the chances of it being realized are very, very remote.
make it quadruple figure to cover the notorious human inability to predict real costs as seen on planet Earth, then quadruple again to around $100bn to cover all other eventualities and even that figure is probably waaay too low.
Anyway, it's not that they're really planning to send people to Mars, it's a research project to study why people would go on a one-way trip, the Dutch are known to have announced "shock" projects in the past.
now, where's me pills....
I think the factor we're all missing here is that the DUTCH are proposing to be the first to put people on Mars. I, for one, welcome... etc.
As to budget escalations I'm sure that Martian Weed will sell for a significant mark-up in the usual locations around Amsterdam. It's amazing what hardware you can buy with drugs money.
Ah, there's a quote from the inventor of Big Brother, whose production company, Endemol, brought us Space Cadets.
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...when someone goes nuts from space-sickness (i believe that's the medical term) and runs around the Mars house with an axe, painting the walls?
obviously, the ratings go through the roof, but presumably there's a delay in transmission, so by the time the editors see the first victim get an axe in the head, the psycho has already killed the rest and is standing in front of a camera, with his own eyes in the palms of his hands saying "liberate tutemae ex infernis" over and over....
They obviously haven’t’ watched any films set in space, ever, don’t they know when you stick a group of people alone away from earth something God ’awful happens? (I don’t mean the God ‘awful film version of Lost in Space with Joey from Friends).
“ And now we see our four brave contestants, Miss Ripley, Mr Bishop, Mr Riddick and Captain Pinbacker, all boarding the Ship Event Horizon, where they will be assisted on their trip by the on-board computer H.A.L…”
It would be really boring without something worthwhile to do. So they need basic tools to build more stuff, like bulldozers, 3D printers, the ability to craft electronics and bowls etc themselves.
But if a bunch of hairdressers are sent, nothing will happen - Golgafrincham disease. "Have you seen my rubber ducky, Number Two?" and "We've decided to revalue the sand"