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I guess it's all related, but there was an article on El País about his Dodge the other day.
http://cultura.elpais.com/cultura/2013/01/14/actualidad/1358180710_285425.html
The Spanish city of Granada will honour the late Joe Strummer by renaming a city square after The Clash frontman. The rebranding comes after 2,000 residents backed a Facebook campaign to celebrate the punk rocker's connection with Granada, where he fled as legendary British band The Clash fell apart in 1984. Granada City …
Guess I touched a bit of a nerve with that comment...not that I wanted to upset anybody else who appreciates good music. Punk for me is more New York Dolls, Sex Pistols, Ramones etc.; even though Clash formed in '76 and played punk, they also mixed in reggae, ska, rockabilly etc. and stepped outside of the genre.
Was upset when Strummer died, but that at least meant there was no risk of our memories of them being ruined by comeback attempts. Done is done.
I would define the Clash as definately punk , they were appearing in the NME the same time as the Sex Pistols, Public Image, Sham 69, Siouxsie and the banshees, Joy Divison and a year os so later Dead Kennedys, Virgin Prunes etc....
Post punk I would rate as New Order, Echo and the Bunnymen, The Psychedelic furs.
Not really easy to define exact genres for all of the bands though. ( the Virgin Prunes and the Clash didn't have much in common except for the period)
The Clash retained a cult status for a long time after the late 70s. many of their songs were very well written and perfectly described the scene at that time...
Even after 20years or so I can still remember many of the lyrics to their songs, most notably from the London Calling album ( which is no surpise).
Nice to see they are still being honoured.
I probably agree in fact, I'm probably confusing a little with Punk and New Wave, there are in fact very few real Punk bands.
On a less serious side:
Public Image and the Sex Pistols in the NME
Who reads an article like this and (instead of wanting to start a debate about whether The Clash as punk or post-punk or whatever) wonder:
What are the actually calling the square? Plaza Strummer? Plaza Joe?
Where is the plaza? Is it one of the main ones or just a tiny little out of the way place?
Oh well... I suppose it's my fault for thinking that there might be some factual information in the article beyond the headline. Google here I come...