Pirate Bay hits ten million peers, one million torrents

RIAA and MPAA wankers

Lets see if I get this right. The "legitimate" business model is that content creators get %5 and other %95 goes to anglo suits and pigopolyists whose only role is to bombard us with adverts and sue us. In addition, the legitimate media includes crippling drm restrictions such as region codes and being forced to watch adverts and a FBI warning informing us what thieves us consumers are. Whereas the pirate version are not only free but usually have the annoying drm crap removed. And they wonder why they are losing $ when they blow it on lawyer and lobbyists fees as well as offering an inferior product to "unwashed thieving masses". Wankers, the whole lot.

If this is successful...

then next we bring charges against blockbuster, netflix, whsmith, hmv, every supermarket, and all manufacturers of blank tapes, CDs, DVDs, VCRs, DVD-writers, PCs, modems, routers, and all copper, aluminium and steel cable, and fibre-optics, for "accessory" to commit copyright infringement.

Oh and if anyone ever sold someone a dodgy copy of a movie in a council owned car park then we should sue the government too.

Er

what's an anglo suit?

I've heard of zoot suits and dinner suits but as far as I know, Anglo refers to either the English or a brand of bubble gum.

Of course, if it's meant to be a racial perjorative, you're no better than the people who used to make Darkie toothpaste or [removed by poster]-brown paint.

We caucasians don't want the RIAA/MPAA either.

Cocaine lifestyle under threat ?

Keep it up Pirate bay ! Cost reduction for RIAA is like shooting yr own foot. How else would they sustain their cocaine lifestyles?

Would love to follow this suit and wish The Register to give it all the airing!

A matter of choice

A matter of choice , since one only earns so much money so after deducting the cost of living and dividing the remaining few pennies left over between the computer (games and upgrades war) , home video entertainment systems insatiable appetite for the latest greatest special effects video garbage ex Hollywood , that leaves a small sum of money for perhaps one new audio CD every six months(last sales figures falls have shown the average punter has gone from two to three per week in the halcyon days to maybe one every six months )!

Now given that 98% of the new music released weekly is of the variety hear once it sounds like "some one is whipping the dog or cat both literally and figuratively" and then you wish you never hear it again variety ! How indeed else but by the use of p2p to sample and sort through the dross to find the rarer better quality one in six months you can afford from amongst the crap and dross the big three release in a never ending stream(looks like EMI is for sale again shortly) It of course does not help but two years on you find the very same CD in the $2-00 bargain basement bin though after spending top dollar previously !

Although I think my ears are getting old and tired when Mozart , Hayden and Beethoven start to sound far better then the latest Billboard top 100 of suck and throw away tunes and the eyes start to roll at the mere thought of watching MTV's latest round of soft porn used to flog the tune of the month though ?

What price a choice indeed ? , but if they continue to release that which sucks often , little wonder people seek alternatives like "the bay" to spend their money more wisely !

Go ask Paris she would probably be able to tell them why turkeys can't fly all that well !

Careful what you wish for... you just might get it (re: If this is successful... )

" next we bring charges against blockbuster, netflix, whsmith, hmv, every supermarket, and all manufacturers of blank tapes, CDs, DVDs, VCRs, DVD-writers, PCs, modems, routers, and all copper, aluminium and steel cable, and fibre-optics, for "accessory" to commit copyright infringement. "

We've been fighting off the threat of a generic copyright-tax on blank media for years now, and there have been occasional suggestions to extend it to PCs themselves. So careful what you go suggesting, because we might get it - but not in a way that we'd want.

Intellectual Property...

I often wonder if the world would be a better place without so called "Intellectual Property." I have come of the opinion that the very idea that you can own something intellectual is grossly offensive and not one argument for IP stands up to even the most cursory level of scrutiny...

... yet, in a world of Billions of people, we keep the the crazy idea that you can own something "Intellectual."

Utter nonsense.

What

I find more amusing is that people actually want to watch the drivel that is produced by Hollywood nowadays... I'm sick and tired of the Tom and Jerry approach to all films produced where the good guy wins (cue floaty music) all kids survive (and perhaps have a hand in or solve) the destruction of Earth or similar.

Balls to them.

It's about time they produced a movie whereby nice guys died, kids get killed and the dodgy bloke with the bat gets off scott free.

Films like that would never make a dime in HAmerica however as they are devoid of reality and thought... they prefer to leave the Cinema happy and knowing good triumphs over evil, at least until they get carjacked on the way out.

So what about the legally shareable torrents?

Go RIAA! Go MPAA! Close them down!

Stupid white men with suits

Before the industry understands one simple truth about the modern tech, they will lose: It is not the free products PtP networks offer to the consumers, it is the easy access that draws the crowd.

Average consumer for the music-industry doesn't have CD-player. Or even a credit card as he is only 14!

What he does have, is computer, a music phone with mp3- player and Nintendo Wii under TV in the living room. And instead of trying to sell this potential customer their products, both movie and music industry make damn sure he doesn't have it.

Imagine this kid with a friend in his room.

Watch a movie? Downloading it from some legal site demands a credit card. His only DVD-player is in his computer and copy protection sees he doesn't want to rent a movie either.

Listen some music? Same thing. Furthermore he would want to listen it also on his way to school and the CD format doesn't allow him to upload it on his phone. Nice sales pitch for the record industry.

Of course he will download them! Even few hand-cam recorded new realeses on overnight download from New Zealand are easier to deal, than the hoops movie industry would like their 'customer' to jump for them for product with all kinds of strings attached!

Simply put, record and movie industries are both stuck so badly into 1920's that they make LPs look modern. They really need few fresh ideas, if they want to survive.

Holland, anyone?

"then next we bring charges against blockbuster, netflix, whsmith, hmv, every supermarket, and all manufacturers of blank tapes, CDs, DVDs, VCRs, DVD-writers, PCs, modems, routers, and all copper, aluminium and steel cable, and fibre-optics, for "accessory" to commit copyright infringement".

This already happens in The Netherlands, where if you buy blank CDs, you also pay a tax to cover potential copyright loss. I am one of those folk who still buys CDs (though usually not at premium rate, unless I know the CD is not crammed with fillers), and all blank CDs I buy are meant to store data, not music/movies, etc. Yet, I have to pay this crap tax. Oh, and buying in Germany or abroad is hardly an option. If the customs catch you, you're f*cked.

The same was attempted on MP3 players, but thankfully someone in the government had some sanity left. By the reasoning of these shady copyright-claiming agencies (who somehow are unable to show exactly how the copyright holders are compensated, but do manage to be seated in exquisite buildings), they ought to lock me up, as potentially I could drive my car while drunk and hit someone. No matter if I don't drink and drive, others do, so I should be punished for it, too.

Paris Hilton cause she could have thought up that logic, too.

@Paul

Not everyone can or wants to build tangible things to earn a living. Why is it fair to buy a loaf of bread from a baker but not pay an artist for a song? By your argument programmers don't have a right to a living from the software they write either. Why not? Your argument against IP only makes sense in two places: Karl Marx's dream or a society without money. Since neither scenario exists or is likely to ever happen, we have to find some way of allowing our artists to buy bread and software.

No doubt in your utopian dream good artists would rise through some sort of crowded meritocracy, but how will the really talented ones (who are usually useless at any other form of paid work) ever make it through the early days? There has to be some glimmer of the hope of earnings at some point or nobody would ever commit to a career in music. Everyone has to eat. Hence, protected rights for artists to exploit their work for roughly a lifetime.

I bet that your issue is more with corporate ownership of IP rather than the concept of copyright itself.

Cursorily scrutinize away.

Heh

So by their reasoning as I *can* use Google to find obscure torrents that would make Google culpable as it provides a service for my *crime*? Gotta love such generic reasoning...

Legalise it you morons

The only people who win are lawyers.

The recording industry pay them. Every now and again they catch someone. For every one they catch another two spring up.

Every time someone invents an advancement in DRM someone somewhere cracks it in a week.

Who really cares who is suing who?

If every single one of the Piratebay users donated £1 to their legal fund it would pay decent lawyers enough to drag this on for years. When someone wins we all donate to the next big tracker and so on.

The recording industry should cut out the lawyers and embrace the internet as Radiohead have done.

If this back street industry was legalised and everyone paid £5 per month for endless consumption you would have at least 50million peers, it would work fantastically fast and the industry would have a revenue stream of £250million a month or £3billion a year to share out.

They are either too thick or too greedy to figure this out though.

@Andy

I object to your suggestion that the good guy always wins in Tom and Jerry. In plenty of episodes, Jerry gets a final comeuppance that somewhat balances the indignities suffered by Tom. As early as "'Fraidy cat, " (number four) the final laugh is on Jerry.

I'll get me coat.

That's an interesting quote...

"and also leads to, making copyright protected material available"

Of course. Isn't all content 'copyright protected'? My home movies are copyright protected. Even if I choose to share them with the world via PirateBay, the copyright is still mine. Or does this guy think that copyright law now only resides with the big labels?

Pimp my bank account...

Watching programs about celebrity cribs, boasting huge plasma tvs in every room, and flash cars for every day of the week, not to mention obscene amounts of bling, its difficult to feel any sympathy for someone like who thinks they might have had some of their copyrighted material downloaded for free.

Try before you buy

Ok I have to admit that I have used pirate bay, AND because of it I actually buy more music. I have discovered so many new bands because of this. I of course want to support the bands I like, and so that's why I'm more than happy to part with cash for the legal version of an album once I've found something I really like. If it wasn't for this site, the music industry wouldn't get half as much of my money as they do now.

Record labels shouldn't look to ban these sites, but more how they can work with them.

RE: Pirate Bay are crooks

You come across as the big clever man but really you need to read more about the Swedish law. The P-Bay are just telling people where to download copyrighted material they are not providing it.

In Sweden this is not ilegal.