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And now, after worn-out CES 2012 attendees and exhibitors have stumbled off home in a daze, Wireless Watch presents the five themes that stood out at the week-long celebration of consumerism that you ought to know about. 1. Ultrabooks CES would not be complete without a new form factor to address the 'post-PC' age, but this …

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  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Sorry but that first one...

    Ultrabooks are this year's 3D TVs.

    A "new paradigm" dreamt up by the marketing departments that will, overall, generate a resounding "meh" from actual consumers.

    That's not to say that they'll be a flop, they just aren't going to be the next big thing given their price point.

    1. admiraljkb
      Pint

      Ultrabooks

      Yeah, same thing different name. Netbook got a bad rap due to the Atom procs. There is already been essentially Ultra's (ala netbook++ or laptop--) with AMD procs for the last year, so Intel's marketing has i3 equipped "Ultra's" that feature i3's... Whatever. Laptop is a laptop. If I have a need, I'll get it, otherwise not. :)

      My current batch of netbook, laptop, fire, and desktops are doing the job. When it comes time for replacement, the netbook will get an 11" screened one, and I don't care what the marketing term is for it. :)

      Here's the *my* new laptop "marketing" designations for fun and commonality.

      Laptop---- 8.9" netbook

      Laptop--- 10.1" netbook

      Laptop-- 11.x" ultras

      Laptop- 13-14" laptop

      Laptop 15.x" laptop

      Laptop+ 16" laptop

      Laptop++ 17" laptop

      Wideload+++ >17" laptop

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Ultrabooks

      I disagree - I just bought one as I needed something really lightweight (I do a lot of travelling and have to carry a work laptop as well) with a bit of power in it. I think it is great for someone on the move who needs some power in their box (e.g. for personal s/w development, etc). Admittedly, that might be a small market, but I think it will have a bigger impact than 3D TVs.

    3. Darryl
      Meh

      Ultrabooks?

      Actually, I think "Smart TVs" are this year's 3D TVs... 3D has fizzled and the manufacturers are scrambling for some other way to keep people buying new, unneeded TVs every couple years. Make them "Smart" and some people will just have to have one, while the rest of us will just keep watching that perfectly good LCD/Plasma/CRT/Whatever that we have now until it dies, then look at replacing it.

  2. Harmless
    Stop

    No thanks

    Hmmmm, let me see....

    Ultrabooks - Don't want, too expensive

    Wi-Fi everywhere - Don't want, unless it's free

    LTE smartphones - Don't want, still use a dumb phone from 2005

    Smart TV - Don't want, only just replaced CRT with LED-lit LCD flattie, don't care about 'smart'

    Cloud - Don't want, I keep my own data.

    I'm either getting old or there's simply nothing new that's really interesting any more!

    1. Khaptain Silver badge

      Gotta agree with Harmless- almost

      Outside of the flying drone, which could be fun in the office for a day or two, nothing seems particularly innovative or interesting.

      Move along folks it was just another "none event".

      1. Mark 65

        +1 for the drone.

    2. Frank Bough
      FAIL

      Newsflash

      If you're not spending money, no-one cares what you don't want.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "Nokia’s attempted US comeback was the highlight"

    Does the story end with "and it was all a dream"? It should do.

  4. Silverburn

    Smart TV's

    Anyone "smarting" from Samsung's/Panasonic's first gen smart TV's will be laughing at this one.

    - Web browser? Only on certain model, for no solid technical reason.

    - Skype? As above, but be prepared for hardware lock in for the overpriced camera (both brands), that even then, only works in HD/widescreen between similar sets (panasonic), and needs a 1.2mb uplink, or on PC's with version 4.2 or better. A universal communications platform? Pfft.

    - Some apps are restricted, based on TV hardware, even if the underlying processor is the same. The restriction are pure marketing, to differentiate models. They enforce this through UID on the app 'store', so you can't even jailbreak it.

    Seriously - the age of slick marketing, spin and the clever hiding of actual specs is with us, well and truly.

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Smart TV or Dumb display?

    I suspect the idea of a "Smart TV" won't go far. Everyone already has 'smart' devices capable of driving a larger display, so they will be looking to buy the cheapest display that does the job as simply as possible. A TV trying to be 'smart' on its own will just get in the way. For example, our TV is now driven by almost every device in the house via AppleTV. All it does is act as a large LCD monitor. TV - as a distinct appliance - will merge into all other display types because its raison d'être has disappeared.

    1. admiraljkb
      Pint

      Dumb Displays FTW!

      I totally agree with Ralph (except the Apple TV part). :) I use my TVs exactly the same way, except for they're driven by WDLives and a Logi Revue.

      Smart TV's are obsolete the first day they are manufactured. (hell, lets face it, they're already obsolete in the design phase...) Better to keep the smarts separated in another device (WDLive, Logi Revue, LG whatever, Sony whatever, Apple TV, etc etc etc) and the consumer can pick and choose as they wish according to their own requirements. TV's are now nothing but giant computer monitors being driven by external devices anyway, why even complicate them with network smarts (or power sucking tuners for that matter)?

  6. Doug Glass
    Go

    <yawn>

    BFD

  7. Albert
    Mushroom

    OK except smart TV

    I agree with them all except for "TV becomes just another smart device"

    To me this is just a way to increase the churn rate for TVs. CRTs kept for 10+ years, LCD kept for 5+ years. With smart TVs we will have to replace them every 2-3 years as the 'smart' component will be so far behind that it won't be able to support the latest functionality.

    This means TV companies make more money and perfectly good TVs get scrapped.

    Give me a Roku or Boxee type thing that is (relatively) cheap so I can invest in a great TV that will last while still being able to upgrade the 'smart' component as things get better and better.

  8. Tom 38
    FAIL

    'Knocked for six'

    TBH, most of these look more like a drab forward defensive that gets an edge down to third man for a single, rather than hit for six.

    I mean, thin laptops, wireless devices, faster mobile broadband, SAAS (oh, I'm sorry, 'clouds') and networked TVs are hardly crazy innovative tech/devices for the year ahead - they are the tech/devices from the last 3 years.

    The telling thing is how many of these things are rebranded to make them feel like they are new - 'SAAS' == 'cloud', 'thin laptop' == 'ultrabook'.

  9. Torben Mogensen

    Ho hum

    The list is, indeed, not very exciting, and I agree with nearly every objection stated above. For example, TVs with built-in Internet technology sounds to me a lot like TVs with built-in VHS or DVD players. And while ultrabooks look nice, there is nothing much new here.

    What I find more exciting in 2011 is the spread of non-Wintel technology to laptop, desktop and servers. We may finally see an end to the de-facto Wintel monopoly.

    And the gradual replacement of LCD with newer screen technologies (LED, Mirasol, ...) is also a thing to look for.

    Finally, the return of the hobby computer (in the form of Raspberry Pi) might be a more important thread than any of the above -- even if it didn't make CES.

  10. Is it me?

    Yawn

    Wake me with something interesting.

  11. WinHatter
    FAIL

    TV becomes just another smart device

    for dumber contents.

  12. FreeTard

    I'd love....

    ....an ARM based laptop with a 12inch display - thinkpad "X-series size" like the one I'm writing on... with >= 4GiB RAM and a fast SSD & wifi.

    Oh and cheap of course...

    Am I alone?

  13. Paul 37
    Meh

    Ultrabooks, like tablets fall under Pauls Law

    If you can do your job on THAT, you don't have a proper job.

    1. Armando 123
      Devil

      "If you can do your job on THAT, you don't have a proper job."

      I'm using my MacBook Air for C++/driver development for scientific/lab/medical instruments. Not a real job, then.

      At some level, if you aren't a miner or farmer or in a factory, is it really "real" work?

  14. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    They should just phase out the idea of the traditional TV with built in tuner etc. and replace with just a display device with basic audio support.

    The 'TV' functionality gets provided by whatever smart device you connect to it, from the simplest tuner only (not very smart) to a full blown PC with multiple tuners, gobs of storage, internet access for streaming etc. etc.

    It makes no sense to keep bringing out new panels every year with upgraded internals just to add some smart capability. Both parts have different lifetimes.

    1. Armando 123
      Devil

      Not sure I entirely agree

      We still use over-the-air broadcasts for sporting events, because that's the only thing worth watching on cable/broadcast that isn't on our $3-a-month netflix subscription. And the last I heard, cable/dish subscriptions are slowly dropping, so maybe that's where things are headed.

  15. Hardcastle the ancient
    Stop

    'ang on?

    We just got wholly underwhelmed by "Ten... stars of the Consumer Electronics Show" and now suddenly you pull "Five things that knocked CES 2012 for six" and they are 5 things that aren't the ten things.

    Make yer bluddy mind up.

  16. Cucumber C Face
    Windows

    Smart TV=PC?

    A desktop PC is smarter than any consumer TV is likely to be.

    Am I the only person in the World who doesn't bother with a "TV" per se at all any more? TV cards and DVD playback on PCs has been around since the 90's.

    Caveat - small apartment renders massive flatscreen pointless - albeit that doesn't stop most people in our neighborhood squatting 20 inches from their 80 inch status symbols.

  17. Anonymous Coward
    Meh

    So no new technology then!

    All these are technology solutions to address limitations/shortcommings of current technology. In any other word, solutions to problems they created by design.

    I'd settle for a box that could identify insects in the house and laser them to death as new technology, but smaller laptops, webbrowsers on large screens and a rebranding of ad-hoc wifi aint anything new. A fridge that uses heat extracted to heat the hot water tank, maybe; But not these.

  18. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Where are the ARM Laptops

    I lookup ARM Laptop or "Ubuntu Laptop" on Google news, I get stories going back for at least two years talking about how they will ship "next quarter", yet I still can't seem to buy an ARM laptop at newegg. wtf is taking so long?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Arm laptops

      Indeed, they are still missing. Doesn't help that the last time Asus said they'd release an arm laptop(ces 2009) they had a joint presentation with Microsoft and Intel the very next day going on about how commited they all are to each other and what not.

      I suspect the reason we still cant buy arm laptops is not a technical one.

      Please let me give you money in exchange for an arm laptop?

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