Amazon's anti-iPad arises 'in October'

Heh.

Cheer up ya miserable bugger.

Delete Apps?

Do you have proof of that happening? I have many apps that are either not on the market, or have been removed from the market since getting them, but they remain on my device (Motorola Droid). I have no problems with Google Android.

Also, I have a Kindle. If you purchase the books through them, sure, you can have issues, but if you purchase your books elsewhere, or get them elsewhere (like Google's giant FREE library of books), you don't have issues. They can only take back things you got from them. And you agree to their conditions when buying their DRMed items anyways.

Pretty much, what I'm saying, is that you, sir, are wrong.

Twist In A Knickers

"No thanks. After the Kindle 1984 fiasco I'm never buying a Kindle or any other mobile computing device from Amazon. Piling that on top of Google's ability to delete apps they don't like from Android machines just adds insult to injury."

Twist In A Knickers - rearrange!

That's it's it - my computer crashed so I'm never going to buy another - ever.

Ok guys

Firstly, to mlo0352 and Joe 35: As pointed out, my proof of this happening is articles published in The Register and elsewhere. I understand that while El Reg has its biases as any publication does, in general its articles are reasonably factual. And Amazon may have pledged anything to spin the damage, but it doesn't matter whether or not they WILL delete anything in future - what matters is that they CAN (and can thus be forced to by a judge acting on behalf of a rights holder.) They've set the precedent, and nothing they can spin can alter that. The ability for them to do so still exists in the Kindle.

Yes, I'm getting my knickers in a knot about this. Do any of you honestly not understand why this ability of companies to interfere with your devices is a serious problem? If I pay for something, IT IS MINE. This principle of trade has been a cornerstone of civilisation since mankind first learned to count. My ownership of something establishes in the eyes of the human race that I have the sole use of that item. That means that, for example, if I buy a bag of potatoes from you, it becomes my property and you cannot afterwards reach into my bag of potatoes and take one out, even if it is rotten.

By the same token, when I've paid for a device, what I put on it is mine and mine alone. Anyone who doesn't understand this simple concept and therefore isn't up in arms about this emerging trend of companies reaching into our devices is deluded, plain and simple. If you follow this line of reasoning to its logical conclusion you will end by not owning anything, not even the clothes on your back, if the companies "selling" them decide they no longer want you to have them - for "liability" or any other reason. Is this really where you want the world to go?

Amazon as Pimps?

Earl Jones wrote:

Since we're discussing lawsuits I'm wondering when Amazon will engage in a lawsuit against the BIG river for the following reasons...

"AMAZON,and other Amazon.com graphics, logos, page headers, button icons, scripts, and service names are trademarks, registered trademarks or trade dress of Amazon in the U.S. and/or other countries."

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Nope. A trademark is related to a range of services or products. It doesn't apply to something with the name but completely different. Hence the river is safe as are statuesque ladies.

So have no fear that having your wicked way with an Amazonian will require a royalty payment to a book flogger. Nope it may cost a real lot more ...

Get an ASUS EEE Pad Transformer then

Covers all your requirements right now.

Done already

> They are powerful enough to run compilers and development environments. (which is what I do..)

NetBeans, Qt SDK, gcc good enough?

> You can develop apps for them in c++.

Qt, GTK (ok, thats C, not C++), SDL ...

>You can work with the onscreen keyboard, but plug in a usb keyboard for when you want to do some real work.

Yupp, or a mouse, or pretty much anything supported by Linux.

>Probably you can do one or more of those already.

While it does have some minor quirks, the Atom-N450 Meego based WeTab does all that.

Bloody cheap as well, less than 250€ for 16GB model, less than 350€ for the 32GB 3G model.

Bigotry and foolishness

And who else is on your "do not buy from" list? Microsoft - utterly evil, everyone know that. Google-Android? Oh, the ones who slurp from your wi-fi, photograph without permission, are not-so-slowly adopting the same or worse approach to control as Apple? Ah, Intel, there's a wicked firm. Big, makes money, closed trade secrets, American, Ugh. Those dreadful Taiwanese, Chinese or Korean companies who cheat patent holders of their income every day? But, of course, their human rights record is first class and they are all open to a fault.

I suspect you are neither technically experienced nor strong on honest judgement or reality and are very susceptible to propaganda in all its forms, especially the nonsense that tends to predominate on the internet.

Grow up and accept that all sorts of people, including Apple, perhaps especially Apple, make excellently designed and specified kit, based on either open or closed standards (I take it you have downloaded Darwin to check the base source and you have checked the IOS developer kit and conditions yourself, not just by hearsay).

Bigoted Twit.

No less irrational than science in general

> Plain irrational - so if sometime in the future Apple came out with the device that best met your needs, was the right price and did exactly what you wanted you would NOT buy it 'just' because it was sold by Apple.

If you are a power user, there is really little chance of that ever happening.

Apple is Apple. They have been this way for over 20 years and if anything they are only getting WORSE rather than better. They're not very open. They don't play well with other people's data. They don't pay much attention to less casual users of any kind.

That is why I dumped my iPhone. It was a poor choice for non-trivial use of basic phone features. Trivial phone use cases were ignored and suitable mods were explicitly forbidden.

I'm agreeing too

Never had any problems with Amazon.

Their customer service is pretty supreme as well.

When my gf accidentally stood on her Kindle they delivered a new one next day, then a couple of days later they delivered a box & return label to send back the old one.

Once she'd set up the new kindle it downloaded all the books she'd purchased on the last one.

Brilliant...

@Efros

Agreed. In fact if the offering is popular there will no doubt be a number of good custom roms sporting 3.2 available. It will be interesting to see whether it ships with a locked boot-loader or not. I'm guessing that it will, although why they bother I do not know given that someone will work out how to prise it open.

Hobbled?

Can you explain the "...hobbled by its need to be tethered to the Waterstone's eBook store" comment?

I was thinking of getting one of these, as I quite liked it in the store. I considered self-importing the 950 model because I would prefer a larger screen.

Anyway, what is the hobbling all about?

Dweeb