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Last week Samsung went to the International Trade Commission to try to ban the import of Apple's phones into the US. In response Apple has now tried to stop the sale of four specified Samsung handsets on claims that they infringe Apple patents. Jobs's boys went to court on Friday to seek an injunction to stop sales of Infuse …

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  1. Alan Denman

    Admit to being a loser and Apple will let you off?

    Of course Apple have really just taken their ads into court.

    "If you don’t have an iPhone, well, you don’t have an iPhone, LOSER"

  2. Ralthor

    I say....

    .... we take off and nuke both compsnies from orbit. its the only way to be sure.

  3. Danny 5
    Stop

    give me a break

    the "look and feel" patent claim continues? even though every single E-reader in existence has the same look and feel? even though the base OS for the Galaxy Tab is Android?

    i was wrong in many of my previous statements, i actually CAN hate apple even more.

    nuke from orbit!

  4. MikeyWilko

    Sigh...

    I'm not for or against any company (just like good products from many different companies), and I've never joined in with any company bashing in the past....but, I am becoming tired with all this as I'm sure many of you are. Please...Apple...just stop it, carry on making your products and leave it at that (and don't think all you other companies are off the hook either!). You can't moan about others stealing your ideas when you do this: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/06/08/apple_copies_rejected_app/

    I couldn't find a wet kipper icon..

    1. Giles Jones Gold badge

      Nokia to blame?

      I think you need to see what started all this off. It was Nokia and others suing Apple. If that hadn't happened I think it less likely we would be having all these patent rows right now.

      Any company that comes under attack is going to dig out patents to shoot back.

      1. Kristian Walsh Silver badge

        Not the same, really...

        Nokia sued Apple for actual technology infringements - radio interface and other designs that cost a lot to develop and test. Everyone else in the industry licenced these designs, and Nokia licenced other makers' technologies too, but Apple disagreed about how much they should pay until last month.

        This particular case is a design issue, and it's not like Nokia sued Apple for ripping off the look and feel of the old Nokia 7710, with its touchscreen grid of rounded-rectangle icons, is it? ;)

        To claim that a common geometric shape -- so common that most graphic APIs include it as a primitive -- is your private, protected design signature is a bit much, even from Apple.

        On the other hand, I do think Samsung have been very cheeky in their designs. The Galaxy S, I'm sure purely by accident, managed to position all its case elements in exactly the same places as Apple did on the iPhone. And when you tapped the "menu" button, you got a layout that's suspiciously like Apple's application list too. Deeper down, the similarities drop away fast, but for the "play with it in the shop" time so valued by Apple, they're pretty similar... but similar enough for a customer to think Apple had something to do with the Galaxy? I don't think so.

        And all the while, the lawyers' clocks keep ticking along...

  5. dotdavid
    Meh

    *Yawn*

    These legal shenanigans are getting tiring. I think I'll ignore the whole thing until a judge actually says something that's binding on one or both Samsung and Apple.

    1. a53
      Thumb Down

      Nah.

      *Yawn* → #

      Posted Monday 4th July 2011 11:38 GMT

      In Apple v Samsung: Jobs strikes back

      These legal shenanigans are getting tiring. I think I'll ignore the whole thing until a judge actually says something that's binding on one or both Samsung and Apple.

      The judge will deliver a judgement and then........ The loser will just appeal.

    2. amanfromearth
      Facepalm

      .. tiring

      I think you don't realise they aren't in court for your personal entertainment.

      There are real issues of stealing other companies ideas being decided.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Right

        And I suppose no writer has ever 'borrowed' an idea or has been 'influenced' by another writer. Or song lyricist, or painter or...

  6. g e
    Facepalm

    We'll soon know

    If Stevie-boy's dad's bigger than Samsung's dad

    I bet Steve's dad, regardless of bigness, doesn't do Sam Sung Foo though....

  7. Clive 3
    Megaphone

    Who's going to win?

    There's only one way to find out

    Fight!!!

  8. Nick Ryan Silver badge

    Win win win...

    for the lawyers. Once again.

  9. Richard Jones 1

    Help My eraser Has the look and feel of an apple

    My lunch included something called an apple, but it did not make telephone calls badly - ergo it was not an apple it must have been something else.

    The Apple iThings can only deal with iThings therefore only work with iThings software therefore they are iThings.

    Samsung smart phones will not load iThing software, will not interact with iThing services but have round corners, they are still not ithings by Apple.

    My rubber, (or eraser to the yanks) is sort of flat and after use has round coners, it cannot make telephone calls, cannot play music or do anything else, but it almost has the look and feel of an iThing. Whatever apple thinks (if that is not an oxymorn) it has NOT copied the look and feel of an iThing, for christ's sake it is a rubber.

    Samsung make smart phones not walled up apple ithing toys for playing in an apple garden. Apple ithing toys have the look and feel of walled up items, why in hell would any one copy the walled in apple ithing restrictions feature?

  10. LPF

    Samsugn is in the wron on the GUI front..

    SSorry but in their latest adverts for the Galaxy 2?? basically you dont knopw the name until it the advert ends, and up until that point you would have sworn it wasa new iPhone ad. Sorry but there are other touch screen phones and have been for donkeys years, but the samsung ones, really do look like iphones until you give it a really hard look, and it was intentional IMHO

    Either way, it would be pretty simple to change it so that it does not look so much like the iPhone GUI so why haven't they ?

  11. technohead95
    Mushroom

    So many companies involved...

    ...but I bet half the problems would go away if you just nuked Apple.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Mushroom

      title

      There's two sides to every story and to be fair, we should nuke them both.

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Trollface

    Hah!

    So I've got a phone that the sceptics can't have!

    Mwahaahha!

  13. Random Handle

    Gooapple

    ......wonder what they'll make of the boatload of Gooapple ['Spawn of the Devil'] handsets currently leaving Shenzai.....and priced @ ~ £100 a pop

  14. rpd9803
    WTF?

    Galaxy Tab

    I've held one and played with it – The UI differences are apparent pretty quickly, but I'm not my mother, who probably would not be able to tell the difference between a galaxy tab and an ipad.

    My impression is that it really is a shitty ipad ripoff, it feels cheap in-hand, the bezel with its thin strip of shiny metal does strike me as an obvious attempt to mimic the ipad.

  15. Nick Ryan Silver badge

    Mimicry?

    Go into a supermarket and look at the own store's brand products and compare to the well known brands of the same. Notice how the look and style is often copied by the store's own brands.

    Just how similar does something have to be before it is considered worth the effort of throwing more money at lawyers on the off chance something useful (for you) happens?

  16. NoneSuch Silver badge
    Devil

    Hmmmmm...

    Apple Computer, Inc. v. Microsoft Corporation, 35 F.3d 1435 (9th Cir. 1994)

    The court ruled that, "Apple cannot get patent- protection for the idea of a graphical user interface, or the idea of a desktop metaphor [under copyright law]...

    What else needs to be said?

  17. sueme2
    Alien

    sueme2

    I have rounded corners and i cant run very fast and my antennas dont work and i decided that i can do without important bits here and there and I like lots of Dollars. Please help me.

  18. Eddy Ito

    Is the ITC that stupid?

    If they do any checking around, including the Apple patents, they won't be giving this to much skin. It boggles the mind how quickly Apple patent 7,469,381 was pushed through while patents of others seem to languish for ages. Only a year in 2008? It was either a light year at the patent office, the patent examiner had a lot of help or Apple did. That is lightning fast for the USPTO and makes me question just how thorough they were.

    The design patents are equally dubious. A bunch of pics of bricks with softened edges and little else. Apple design patent D618,677 points out the Samsung F700 under "other publications" and guess what? It's a brick with a touchscreen and rounded corners just like the iPhone. As for the tablet patent D504,889, it's beyond me how they managed to get it. Someone drew a rectangle and rounded the corners and back edges. Good thing tabricks with rounded corners and edges have been around for a while like the HP Compaq Tablet PC TC1100.

  19. Anonymous Coward
    WTF?

    I've got a nice HTC Android

    if you havent got an Android Phone, well, you havent got an Android phone

    Apple are actually starting to really piss me off. if their OSX Lion is starting to limit the

    ways I want to use the computer as I fear they might then I think I'll be saying bye bye to even having an OSX system - how can they complain about stealing look and feel? Most of their product line have just been slimmer or whiter/blacker versions of things that came before - their first laptop

    was a clam-shell design with top half being a screen and bottom half being the keyboard - i'm surprised IBM or Toshiba didnt sue! ;-)

  20. Rex Alfie Lee
    Black Helicopters

    Who designed what?

    Apple may have designed the look but Samsung designed how to build it. Now tell me, who designed it?

    Samsung used the original basic to update it & make it better so...

  21. dssf

    Samsung SyncMaster 206BW, front-on looks like an iPhone to me...

    BUT, the 206BW has been around during or before 2007:

    http://reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/samsung-syncmaster-206bw/4505-3174_7-32327974.html

    http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab

    and if one applied touch screen capabilities to it and win nt or xp in a 206BW format, and flattened the back, and got rid of the wiring, it would have been very close. I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung can during "discovery" show that among many formats out there, the 206BW figured in looks and appeal examples in Apple searches for look-and-feel...

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