DAB misses again.
It's a kitchen radio: an AM/FM radio will do, doesn't run the batteries flat in 30 mins when hiked out to the garden and costs about £15.
A kitchen is incomplete without a radio. Like a garden without a blade of grass, a song without emotion, or a footballer without a super-injuction, there are many without, but it just isn't the same. And even though dates for the proposed digital switchover haven't been set in stone, there's no harm in being prepared. Indeed, as …
Battery life on DAB radios is less a problem than it used to be. I have a Pure evoke, with the battery pack, and it will quite happily run (and often does) for hours, and hours and hours...... then re-charges over night.
Also, find me a AM/FM radio that will tune into 6Music and Planet Rock....
Why haven't you marked down all the radios with top surface controls?
The top of anything in the kitchen is the bit that gets stickiest, so surely top surface controls is the last thing you need in a kitchen, especially if you're putting the radio on a shelf where you'll be unlikely to see the controls and display, let alone work the radio without picking it up.
I'd say this misfeature is worth a 10% penalty at least.
There are people who like to have pretty, unreasonably expensive things in their kitchen.
For the rest of us, I've seen DAB radio down to £15. As for kitchenproofing it, wrap the bugger in clingfilm. Job done.
Absoltue (nee Virgin), Absolute 80s (sound suffers), Absolute 90s (mono)... conveniently broadcasting the same programme up to 10am so you can compare the transmission quality of each. Shouldn't Absolute 50s be the least good technically, or is that what BBC Radio 2 is for?
Why aren't people making these to record digitally any more - am I missing something? (Such as podcasts? No thanks.) Since I live in Scotland and am about to be blessed with an all-day Gaelic-language TV service on Freeview (kitchen TV with Freeview being an alternative to radio otherwise), I'm not going to have a Freeview radio option for most of the time.
How could you do a review of Kitchen DAB radios and miss out the Roberts undercupboard radio?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B001HB62V2/
You even reviewed it when it first came out.
http://www.reghardware.com/2008/12/15/revew_radio_dab_roberts_rdk_2/
I've had one for the past couple of years, and it's been great. The only downside is that the controls are sometimes a little less sensitive than I'd like.
The radio in our kitchen is neither grease-gunged and has been happily receiving medium wave broadcasts on 792kHz for years. (Good ol'e AM... or more specifically... DSB-FC.)
The grease might be something to do with that greasy pop music or the food you're cooking. We don't have that problem here. :-)
Has someone in reg hardware been smoking crack?
I'm usually the first one in the queue to spend on a gadget but £180 for a radio that has to compete with the magimix, extractor fan, oven and microwave noises? A kitchen radio should take 4 double AA's, cost no more than £25, be stuck on 1 station for years on end and sit on the windowsill in full view of burglars without them being in the least bit interested in smash and grabbing it through the window for THEIR next crack fix.
FM is perfectly adequate and unless you work for ofcom or the BBC you need take no interest in the marketing/technical fail that is DAB.
I agree with you, but expensive radios featuring (relatively) new technology is nothing new. I have a 1959 Bush TR82 transistor radio, which cost about £18 new (equivalent to about £200 today). It was expensive because of all those up-to-the-minute transistors inside...and the thing only had Medium and Long wave bands! I'm sure DAB (or its successor) will have cheapo radios before you know it!
That's a really good point actually - about the cheapo DAB radios which have yet to materialise. Where are they? I mean, I've been looking for several years, and never see one priced under £20-£30 or so. There seems to be a price floor beneath which nobody chooses to sell anything. Why is that? Is there some major royalty payment for the tech, or is it just oligopolistic capitalism choosing to collude/price-set rather than price-compete?
(other than costing about 15quid)
Can you turn it on and off at the plug?
I got a DAB radio a couple of years ago. It was small and worked quite well (sometimes it even got a DAB signal!), BUT when you turned it off at the plug and turned it back on again it would stay off. You had to actually turn it on with a small button on the front, effectively needing two hands, which was not good in a kitchen.
Our Philips analogue radio lives out of the way on top of a wall cupboard. It stays on R4 so the only control it needs is turning on and off at the plug.
Digital Radio Mondiale would be good, but DRM and PLT use the same frequencies, and where there is PLT nearby, DRM is likely to be unusable. If there's enough PLT, DRM becomes unusable in most places due to the rise in noise floor. Still, PLT's very very important (to BT Retail anyway).
"decent size letters and numbers?"
Good question. You rarely see a station name with descenders on these things 'cos they're all still using 1970s-style 7x5 style LCDs or LEDs. WTF is that about?
Today you can buy 20 Euro radios with _digital_ signal procession for FM-radio. There is no reason why we won't have DAB radios for a similar price with next to no power consumption in a few years.
The only problem is, that outside of the UK, DAB adoption is quite slow. In Germany the "gold standard" for receiving radio is DVB-S. This is how you can get the best reception with 320k MP2 streams for stereo and even more for surround.
As for economies of scale, I'd go for DVB-T. It's cheaply available and has most benefits of DAB.
From Pure instead of the Mio, you could get the Flow for a bit more cash which does the same stuff plus Internet radio and being able to pick up stuff streamed from computer/NAS etc. So aside from not being able to do DAB2, you're more-or-less future proofed.
Though to be honest anything even getting near to £100 does seem to be a bit expensive for a ktchen radio...
I have one of the magic box DABs reviewed here (a gift rather than personal purchase) . I can confirm the woeful reception (more presets than stations I can receive - funnily enough no Magic) and also the scrolling display is difficult to read. If it wasn't for Alice Cooper on Planet rock I'd probably never bother to plug it in.
Sound quality (on a decent signal) is pretty good and if it came with an alarm I'd probably swap it for my aging bedside clock/radio.
DAB has, essentially, already failed. It is broadcast at too low a bit rate to appeal to Hi-Fi enthusiasts, and is too expensive (because essentially the UK is on it's own in using it...). As a format it is has little room to grow, and looks like a white elephant.
Someone should put it out of it's misery and pilot the UK towards adopting a newer high compression based format that the rest of the world actually uses. Something that can adequately replace FM, rather than being less compelling than it (from a quality audio perspective).
I bought one of the Sony XDR-S100CD a year or so back as a present for the missus who wanted a DAB radio for the kitchen with a CD player. I think this was the only one I could find that had FM / DAB / CD. Compared to the prevalence of FM / AM / tape / CD combo players, DAB radios seem to be one trick ponies most of the time.
It is a nice unit and works lovely in our kitchen. The price is prohibitive for mass adoption but hopefully the unit will last long enough for it to be worth it.