back to article It's calculated Apple leak time: Cheaper iPhone, laptops with proper keyboards, and, oh, a Tile competitor

Ming-Chi Kuo, the analyst regarded as one of the most accurate soothsayers when it comes to Apple's product direction, is predicting a busy 2020 for Cupertino, with major refreshes across its entire laptop lines, as well as a new budget-oriented iPhone, and a greater selection of accessories. "We forecast that Apple's major …

  1. Blackjack

    It turns out...

    Even Apple fanboys might cry if they have to pay a thousand bucks for an IPhone.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: It turns out...

      The iPhone 11 was 700, the SE2 in this article is listed $400, if you want to max out size, camera and storage you can spend a grand but you don’t need to.

    2. Anonymous Coward

      Re: It turns out...

      And once that $1000 iphone gets dropped, and they see the price for a screen replacement without AppleCare+ (Because why spend extra on a service plan?) they downsize to something else.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: It turns out...

        Downvoted for retelling something that actually happened. Tough crowd.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Is that an affordable iPhone by Apple's definition or an affordable iPhone by the Public's definition ?

    If it's the former then I only have to sell one of my children into slavery rather than both of them which I would have to do to buy a normal priced iPhone.

    1. earlygeek

      As a parent, all I can say is this looks like a GOLDEN opportunity..... ;-)

    2. HildyJ Silver badge

      Typical Android comments

      iPhone rumors show that slavery is not required, only a 5 year term of indentured servitude with Foxconn (for the base SE2, other models will be longer).

      1. zuckzuckgo Bronze badge

        Re: Typical Android comments

        So think of it as just loaning them your child.

  3. IGotOut

    Not to pour a dampener...

    ...but the SE replacement has been one of those rumours that is as enduring as Apple releasing a TV.

    See it when it happens.

    1. Mrs Doyles Teacup

      Re: Not to pour a dampener...

      The SE2 leaks have been constant and from reliable sources, the TV rumours weren’t ever corroborated from anyone reliable.

    2. Blackjack

      Re: Not to pour a dampener...

      "Apple TV" turned to be a video streaming service.

      And Apple toyed with the idea of making a computer that also worked as a TV but discarted it since anyone else who had sone it wasn't making any money from it. And back then the quality of TV on a PC was just terrible.

    3. rg287 Silver badge

      Re: Not to pour a dampener...

      ...but the SE replacement has been one of those rumours that is as enduring as Apple releasing a TV.

      Yeah, but the difference is that I've finally updated, and it'd be just my bloody luck if Apple finally release an SE2 6 months after I upgrade.

      I've been hanging on for years. Finally bit the bullet in October when my beloved 5S started to physically fall apart and ended up getting an XR when the price dropped after the 11 came out.

  4. Tom Chiverton 1

    Tile ?

    WTF is Tile ?

    1. Mrs Doyles Teacup

      Re: Tile ?

      Tiny tracking device for finding your keys, Apples is likely to be a bit more advanced using mmwaves instead of Bluetooth.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Tile ?

        More likely 2.400 to 2.4835 AppleHertz™, compatible only with the newest RedTooth™ enabled handsets.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Tile ?

          >RedTooth™ enabled handsets.

          Available at your local iTard store for a very reasonable £399 or a right arm.

      2. Mike Richards

        Re: Tile ?

        And it wouldn't be beyond Apple that following the release of 'Magic Cards' (or some such stupid name), Tile users will start to experience 'issues' with their kit.

      3. ColonelClaw

        Re: Tile ?

        And definitely not used to track your wife/husband/girlfriend/boyfriend etc etc?

    2. GruntyMcPugh Silver badge

      Re: Tile ?

      As mentioned above, tiny tracking devices that bip out a bluetooth beacon ID. The power of them being that if you buy into the service, and lose something that is tagged with a Tile, other Tile users can locate it as they pass. The user base is the important part really, and it's cross platform currently, Apple aren't really one for sharing, so they might do OK in the US where Apple devices are quite prevalent,(~55%)but elsewhere where the market is less saturated (Europe ~half that of the USA) the userbase, and likelyhood of a fellow subscriber passing your device is diminished. I suspect they'll hand out a freebie with new handsets to get the userbase invested, or build the tile technology into the new over the ear headphones, so they are harder to lose, and it'll be a no-brainer to sign up to the service.

      1. Buzzword

        Re: Tile user base vs Apple user base

        The correct comparison is the number of Tile users versus the number of Apple device owners.

        Tile has sold 25 million "tiles" since it was launched. Apple sold 70 million iPhones in the last quarter alone.

        Therefore you have a far greater chance of a passing iPhone user finding your lost item than a passing Tile user.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Tile ?

        So like, Pokemon Go with prizes????

    3. NeilPost Bronze badge

      Re: Tile ?

      Tile Competitor:

      Functional Spec must include

      - If Tile loses connectivity to the phone (I.e.) out of reach it raises an alert on Tile and Phone. Stops you leaving your keys at home or phone at home.

      Tile is fucking useless in the above regard. All you can do is look for ‘missing’ stuff when in range or it could last see it.

      1. werdsmith Silver badge

        Re: Tile ?

        If the tile did that it would get very annoying very quickly, which is why it doesn’t.

        I’ve been a tile user since it crowdfunded start up. My skill is getting them cheap. What is really sad is they are throwaway devices, so a flat battery wastes the whole device.

  5. borkbork

    chunky bezels and conventional rectangular screen

    Looking forward to a few android makers slavishly copying these. It's getting harder to find decently specced devices with smallish screens (high res, no cutouts or rounded corners) and plastic backs (removable).

  6. 0laf Silver badge

    Apple has probably has a rolling prototype of an SE2 always ready in the wings. They just don't want to release a cheap phone until they really are sure it's not stealing sales from the £1000+ range.

    Someone is crunching number to work out if they'll make more money from more £400 phones or £1000 phones. I doubt it's more complex than that.

  7. davidp231


    Should have called it the SE/30.

  8. bengoey49

    Qualcomm Modem for SE2

    I hope the SE2 is equipped with Qualcomm cellular modem and not Intel Modem now that Apple has made peace with Qualcomm.

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