back to article It's dangerous to go alone! Take Uncle Sam and the Netherlands: Duo join naval task force into China's backyard

HMS Queen Elizabeth is still on track to deploy to the Far East in 2021 – although whether it will actually sail through the South China Sea is yet to be explicitly confirmed – with escorting warships from the US and the Netherlands, according to reports. The UK Defence Journal recently reported that Big Lizzie will rehearse …

  1. batfink Silver badge

    I understand there's a nice harbour available

    At Hong Kong...

    1. Thoguht Silver badge

      Re: I understand there's a nice harbour available

      If we still had HMS Ocean we wouldn't need a harbour.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: I understand there's a nice harbour available

        What on Earth do you mean "if we still had HMS Ocean we wouldn't need a harbour"?

        1. Amentheist
          Holmes

          Re: I understand there's a nice harbour available

          A LMGTFY later we learn that it was an amphibious assault ship meaning it might not need a dock.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: I understand there's a nice harbour available

            Ah, it was a lame joke. I see now.

            1. Korev Silver badge
              Joke

              Re: I understand there's a nice harbour available

              We should dock some up vote for that....

  2. phuzz Silver badge
    Trollface

    Bears

    "Multinational poking of bear"

    Would that be a panda bear in this analogy? Or maybe Winnie The Pooh?

    1. Ugotta B. Kiddingme Silver badge

      Re: Bears

      or perhaps Dragons. In many circles:

      UK = Lion

      USA = Eagle

      USSR/RF = Bear

      PRC = Dragon

      No doubt there are others but those are the ones I can think of immediately.

      1. Archtech Silver badge

        Re: Bears

        https://russia-insider.com/sites/insider/files/styles/1200xauto/public/1975882_Page_.jpg?itok=ae9gWVxf

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Bears

        Now now, the bear is Berlin.

        Russia has a mutant two-headed eagle. One up to the Americans or way too high level of radiations over there? You decide!

        1. Ugotta B. Kiddingme Silver badge

          Re: Now now, the bear is Berlin.

          I thought Berlin wäre der Wolf

        2. phuzz Silver badge

          Re: Bears

          The two-headed eagle generally means it used to be associated with an empire.

          It's used by more countries than just Russia, and pops up elsewhere as well.

      3. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Bears

        New Zealand = Sheep

        1. MonkeyCee Silver badge

          Re: Bears

          As any fule noes, for the NZ it's a kiwi. With laser eyes.

      4. Bongwater

        Re: Bears

        Can America and England come together and form a gryphon? Please no hippogryph though.

    2. macjules Silver badge

      Re: Bears

      carrier strike group

      More "carrier gentle tap to remind group" I should think.

    3. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge
      Pint

      Re: Bears

      For great larger - follow the bear

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkR0krOm9M4

  3. disgruntled yank Silver badge

    Because ABDA worked so well in 1942?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American-British-Dutch-Australian_Command

    1. SkippyBing Silver badge

      Re: Because ABDA worked so well in 1942?

      Different OPFOR though, it's not as if the Chinese were doing brilliantly in '42 either.

  4. Danny 2 Silver badge

    the carrier will take around 24 F-35B fighter jets plus helicopters. Thanks to the small size of the Royal Navy and the high value of the carrier,
    Hopefully also due to the high value of the crew.

    And will these be American F-35Bs, or British and Dutch F-35Bs? If this is just show-boating, an imperial riposte, then surely it would be better to equip it with Spitfires. Maybe a couple of Mini Coopers equipped as submarines. That'd better catch the attention of Chinese investors.

    1. SkippyBing Silver badge

      I believe 1 British and 1 US F-35 squadron. The slow build up of UK F-35 is partly explained by there not being much point in buying many pre-Block 4 as they'd need upgrading anyway. Plus the cost is coming down with each successive batch ordered.

    2. MrXavia

      I'd love to see spitfires flying from it!

      1. Mark 85 Silver badge

        I'd pay to see some mini-Coopers launched via a the catapults.

        1. Jimmy2Cows Silver badge
          Coat

          I fear that would be impractical; with their ever-increasing size they'll soon weigh more than an F35.

          1. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge

            Also, no catapults. But they've got that ski-jump for launching, so you only need a few rockets.

            Do the Navy still keep those JATO things around?

    3. jake Silver badge

      "Maybe a couple of Mini Coopers equipped as submarines."

      Minis? Why use a BMW when the perfectly British[0] Lotus exists?

      [0] Or Chinese. Brands aren't what they were when I were a yoof ...

  5. MJI Silver badge

    Sub

    Now that should worry the Chinese.

    An Astute would be unbeatable.

    1. batfink Silver badge

      Re: Sub

      Providing there are no sandbanks in the South China Sea

    2. joeW Silver badge

      Re: Sub

      It could certainly worry their fishermen.

      https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/skipper-s-terrifying-experience-of-being-towed-by-submarine-1.2827576

      1. jake Silver badge

        Re: Sub

        Nope. Fishermen aren't worried about that, any more than they are worried about accidentally getting dragged by whales. And remember, there are more whales in the ocean than submarines.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Schtop, schtop!

    Thish carrier battlegroup ish not ready yet! Where is the captain’s moustache?

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Christ 2 type 23, 2 type 45 2 RFS and the QE that's over half the Navy!

    1. jake Silver badge

      On the bright side ...

      ... maintenance is inexpensive.

    2. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      > that's over half the Navy!

      No we have at least 70 admirals still here

      1. vtcodger Silver badge

        Re: > that's over half the Navy!

        "The fact is that the number of the officials and the quantity of the work to be done are not related to each other at all. The rise in the total of those employed is governed by Parkinson's Law, and would be much the same whether the volume of the work were to increase, diminish or even disappear." Parkinson's Law -- C Northcote Parkinson 1955

  8. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

    The South China sea is British

    It's obviously named in English

    If it was Chinese it would be named something unreadable and unpronouncable

    1. Alister Silver badge

      Re: The South China sea is British

      南海 apparently, or Nán zhōngguó hǎi

    2. Korev Silver badge
      Joke

      Re: The South China sea is British

      So what you're saying that the Royal Navy should deploy to the Irish Sea so we can "invade" and name after something suitably British?

  9. vtcodger Silver badge

    Those are dangerous waters

    My guess is that the Chinese will generously provide the round-eye flotilla with a suitable 24/7 escort of modern Chinese warships to ensure that the foreigners come to no harm..

    1. SkippyBing Silver badge

      Re: Those are dangerous waters

      It'd be awfully nice if they did, intelligence gathering is so much easier when it comes to you.

  10. 96percentchimp

    '...defence secretary Ben Wallace was quoted by the publication as saying: "It is definitely our intention, though, that the carrier strike group will be able to be a wholly UK sovereign deployable group".'

    With Trump doing his best to dismantle NATO and the Brexit loons destroying our European alliances, Britain will have no one else to sail with in a few years.

    Unless Farage plans to have the Royal Navy join a Russian fleet. I wouldn't put anything past that weasly gobshite.

  11. Sanguma

    If you go down to ...

    the sea today, you'd better not go along

    If you go down to the sea today, be safer to stay at home ...

    Unbearable, panda-ing to pundamentalists like this ...

    At the rate the Royal Navy is growing, the UK will be at pre-Roman Empire spending levels soon!!!

  12. Kaufman

    The Chinese builds more war ships than the entire navy of the UK every year. Not even the US would dare send a carrier group to poke the dragon. China could simply dispatch a few fishing boats and a couple of their gargantuan coast guard cutters to block the Brits and then they'll be forced to turn around in humiliation.

    1. jake Silver badge

      " Not even the US would dare send a carrier group to poke the dragon."

      So where, exactly, has the USS Ronald Reagan Carrier Group been deployed these last several months?

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