back to article Lenovo unfolds time frame for bendy ThinkPad: Pricey Windows PC out in summer '20

Life for ThinkPad fanatics looks to be getting a lot more flexible in the near future with a premium Windows-based foldable PC set to start shipping from next summer. A brief sight of the as yet unnamed machine, the latest in the ThinkPad X1 line, was given at the Canalys Channels Forum in Barcelona yesterday. The strange …

  1. werdsmith Silver badge

    A folding tablet that runs windows. It's not a laptop as it doesn't have a keyboard.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      re: Folding tablet

      The Keyboard is a $500 optional extra that connects via MBT (Magic Blue Tooth) that only they have the keys too.

      Back in the day(when IBM owned them)... Thinkpads were rugged, reliable and repairable. The last one I had to use was worse than the PCW Dell cheapo when it came to the amount of flex in the keyboard. I only had it for a month before some [redacted] nice person broke into my Hotel Room and walked off with it.

      1. Waseem Alkurdi Silver badge

        Re: re: Folding tablet

        Thinkpads were rugged, reliable and repairable.

        Now, now, wait a sec here. Durable designs mean that people won't be replacing them as often as the Lenovo beancounters like.

        They've taken the ThinkPad name and milked it dry. All that remains is the logo, especially with the E series. Hide the logo and it would be another landfill IdeaPad.

        From your experience with the keyboard, it seems he's done you a favor ;-)

        If you don't have to have the latest and greatest, allow me to recommend an older, used ThinkPad. Costs much less, so less to lose if it is stolen again, and at least slightly better (they seem to get worse with every year that passes).

        1. Roland6 Silver badge

          Re: re: Folding tablet

          >Thinkpads were rugged, reliable and repairable.

          I had always thought that was just the T series...

      2. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

        Re: re: Folding tablet

        "The last one I had to use was worse than the PCW Dell cheapo when it came to the amount of flex in the keyboard."

        Depends on the model. They still make durable kit, but they also sell cheap light kit. The cheap light kit seems to be what people want. The durable stuff costs more so organisations generally only shell out for those models where they are most needed. Most of what I see are P, T, L and X models, but the P models seem to be the more rugged, the L and X the least rugged. Then there's the even less rugged consumer models.

  2. Christian Berger Silver badge

    WTF!?

    Why on earth trade an important piece of every computing device (keyboard) for a display which will be obscured by your hands most of the time.

    1. Waseem Alkurdi Silver badge
      Angel

      Re: WTF!?

      Way of the future and all that? (/s)

    2. tmTM

      Re: WTF!?

      Well apparently they're willing to trade sales figures for style so I guess we'll see how that pans out.

      No great surprise if they manage to sell scant few and end up scrapping the line within 18 months.

      1. Christian Berger Silver badge

        Re: WTF!?

        "Well apparently they're willing to trade sales figures for style so I guess we'll see how that pans out.

        No great surprise if they manage to sell scant few and end up scrapping the line within 18 months."

        Nah, that's not how sales works. In case they sell some, they'll proclaim that it as an ingenious idea, but since the market is shrinking it wouldn't sell as well as previous models. In case they sell very few they will also blame it on the market.

    3. Roland6 Silver badge

      Re: WTF!?

      >for a display which will be obscured by your hands most of the time.

      Touch is so yesterday...

      The future is AI enahnced voice control. The AI will know exactly what you mean when you say things such as "the KPI needs to show better than 95% availability" or "move that wiggly thing a bit to the left".

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: WTF!?

        The future is AI enahnced voice control. The AI will know exactly what you mean when you say things such as "the KPI needs to show better than 95% availability" or "move that wiggly thing a bit to the left".

        Voice-control is SUCH a bad idea. speaking out loud system commands, passwords, or anything else you're doing? Even worse to be yelling at your computer "Hilary Clinton and Margaret Thatcher nude kissing" for a web search...

  3. knarf

    Exec toy or handy travelling thing

    Look ok and prices will drop, Lenovo touch screen are very flaky in my experience so time will tell. Will skip first few variants before I even think about getting one.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I have it right here and you can have it in your purse

    I first read it as "I have it right here and you can have it in your arse". What's wrong with me?! :(

    1. MiguelC Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: I have it right here and you can have it in your purse

      If you have an arse but no purse, then nothing is wrong with you.

      If it's the other way around...

      1. David 132 Silver badge
        Coat

        Re: I have it right here and you can have it in your purse

        I use my arse as my purse, but maybe I'm just anally retentive.

        1. Intractable Potsherd Silver badge
          Coffee/keyboard

          Re: I have it right here and you can have it in your purse

          @David 132: See icon - >

          Thanks for the laugh!

    2. Zarno
      Paris Hilton

      Re: I have it right here and you can have it in your purse

      Absolutely nothing, we've been told all about IOT "toys" on at least one occasion, so it's an easy mistake.

      Paris, because she would be perplexed at the use case as well.

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    but... WHY?!

    other than the fact that "because we can", I see absolutely no benefit (and lots of drawbacks, when you want to swap that battery for a generic clone, oh wait, it's 2019, no more swappable bendy battery,, ok, when you want to add more ram, oh, wait, it's 2019, no more ram upgrades, or when you want to replace the screen, the power supply, the keyboard, oh, wait...)

    I mean, sure, it would help if you could bend it 40 degrees, because that's what regularly happens to laptops by mistake, literally EVERY. DAY! - but other than that... ah, I get it, the use is so that you can roll it and put it in your purse. Or flat briefcase.

    1. Muppet Boss

      Re: but... WHY?!

      IMHO this and others are just a first generation of flexible display technology (which itself is not new). In a few years some people will not imagine life without folding credit cards showing credit amount left and purchases in real time on its surface (those traditionalists who did not switch to paying with Brainwave® by touching the forehead with a wrist phone and thinking "confirmed").

  6. 0laf Silver badge

    A foldable desktop all-in-one makes more sense to me. Make the thing a tri fold with a stand and add a folding full sized keyboard. Ok it needs a desk to work on but it could be any table and it'd be far more useful for actual work than a pishy little screen half taken up with a virtual keyboard.

    1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

      I think you just described their Yoga range. I see this new model as a sort of half way house between the Yogo laptop/tablet-alike convertables and the Miix tablets. Certain demographics that wear sharp suits and ties will love them.

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