back to article Enemy of the Matebook: Huawei shuts up laptop shop. When is it back? Depends on America's Entity List

Huawei has suspended the launch of the latest Matebook laptop ahead of sanctions being imposed by the US government that will block it from dealing with American suppliers. Richard Yu, Huawei's consumer division CEO, told CNBC it had planned to formally unveil a new device in the range but admitted: "We cannot supply the PC”, …

  1. Spanners Silver badge
    Alert

    When?

    Can it be hoped that, when SCROTUS* is replaced, his bad ideas are dumped in order of stupidity?

    Then they have to work out which are the stupidest and which are merely silly and uninformed

    * Supreme Cr*p Regurgitator Of The United States

    1. steelpillow Silver badge

      Re: When?

      Better to dump the most damaging ones first. But hey, how long does it take to write "I hereby rescind [batshit] of [date]" and sign it a few dozen times?

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: When?

        HP is a US company and they do printers, so not long at all.

        You just need to wait for an earthquake to imitate Trump's signature (it would be unkind to co-opt epileptics).

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: When?

      Supreme Cr*p Regurgitator Of The United States

      I think "United 'Merica" would work better. Easier to memorise acronym..

      :)

    3. Chris G Silver badge

      Re: When?

      Well it doesn't look as though it will be before 2020 and not that soon after, when you consider nobody is putting up an electable candidate, SCROTUS/M could be around for almost five years more.

      Maybe the world could get a Kickstarter going to pay him off or get someone/thing to abduct him.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: When?

        Listening to my american colleagues scares the living crap out of me.. They adore him!

        I honestly believe, that within the next 2-3 years, 90% of americans will believe creationism is fact and the earth is flat. This will swiftly be followed by POTUS announcing his resignation, as he is accepting the role as Darth Orange, to serve under Supreme Emperor Putin-tine!

        1. martinusher Silver badge

          Re: When?

          >Listening to my american colleagues scares the living crap out of me.

          Well, its true that there are a lot of us who feel that the Light of Divinity shines from his orifices but, OTOH, there's a lot more who think he's a PoS who, hopefully, will go away. Back in the day the term 'Silent Majority' was coined by right wing types to describe how their ideas weren't being discussed by people (like "what a *wonderful* job our boys are doing in SE Asia....", that sort of thing) but it really applies to people who despise Trump and all he stands for. Voicing that kind of opinion, no matter how diplomatically, will get a bunch of Brownshirts (or should I say "Redcaps"?) rounding on you so its better to keep quiet and just tough it out.

          As for Huawei's laptops and stuff like that, they're quite likely to turn up as a completely different brand that were apparently made somewhere else. (The one place they won't be made is the US -- we don't have the ability to make the displays, for a start.) Those of us who are more technical will also relish the opportunity to retire the tired old x86 architecture -- that processor architecture outstayed its welcome a generation ago -- and Windows, which as many will tell you, is definitely past its sell-by date. (This might explain why Google's not happy about Huawei developing an Andriod-like OS -- they're quite likely to make a better one since the first product of a type usually ends up with legacy quirks and bugs that you can't get rid of.)

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: When?

        Maybe the world could get a Kickstarter going to pay him off or get someone/thing to abduct him.

        I think you just volunteered for a nice, cosy chat with the next available Secret Service agent or two.

      3. John Brown (no body) Silver badge
        Alien

        Re: When?

        "or get someone/thing to abduct him."

        Paging AmanFromMars, Paging AManFromMars -------------->

        (and bring the full, heavy duty Probe Kit)

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: When?

          and bring the full, heavy duty Probe Kit

          Aliens are smart enough to stay well away from us, so I doubt they would inflict something like Trump on themselves..

          1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

            Re: When?

            Has anyone checked if Trump has a zip across his forehead? The hair looks fake and the name is a bit of a giveaway too!

  2. druck Silver badge
    Mushroom

    Red Flag

    Huawei could still knock out a version with Red Flag Linux. Can't be any worse than Windows 10, and I'm sure most people wouldn't notice the telemetry heading for Beijing rather than Redmond.

    1. PerlyKing Silver badge

      Re: Red Flag

      The problem isn't just Windows, it's also the hardware technology that goes into most (all?) modern laptops - think building a laptop without anything from Intel, AMD or even Arm. Let alone the subsystems.

      1. druck Silver badge
        Flame

        Re: Red Flag

        China has it's own x86 compatible CPUs.

        The more they are cut off from buying US technology, the more effort they will put in to matching, or better it themselves.

        1. Aitor 1 Silver badge

          Re: Red Flag

          Yes, now look at them.

      2. Joe Montana

        Re: Red Flag

        ARM is a british company owned by a japanese parent company, they don't have to follow US regulations.

        VIA make x86 compatible cpus and i think are based in taiwan, although obviously taiwan isn't too friendly with prc.

        AMD agreed a development deal with a chinese company some months back, so that chinese company already has the rights to manufacture current AMD processors.

        China have their own locally developed MIPS-compatible processors, and RISC-V is open to anyone and both would be reasonable options for a laptop not burdened with windows.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Red Flag

          ARM is a british company owned by a japanese parent company, they don't have to follow US regulations.

          That's why the Americans invented the blacklist. It gives them leverage to blackmail/force companies outside their reach into doing what they want, because sovereignty only counts when the US applies it.

          In a way I am glad for the current lunacy, because it makes it very clear that the global financial and trade structures have a single point of failure called the US. The quicker the world decouples from that risk the better - clearly the Lehman Brothers collapse and following events were not enough of a lesson. Besides, in a few years the US will no longer be the leading economy and I suspect they won't like the payback much..

        2. PerlyKing Silver badge
          Unhappy

          Re: Red Flag

          ARM is a british company owned by a japanese parent company, they don't have to follow US regulations.

          "UK-based chip designer ARM has told staff it must suspend business with Huawei, according to internal documents obtained by the BBC." -- https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-48363772

          You might be right about the rest, but as I understand it the trade ban is designed to be as wide-ranging as possible, cutting Huawei off from any business remotely linked to the US.

          But as someone else pointed out, China has plenty of smart people. In the short term this may hurt them (and and everyone else), but in the long term it may just push them to invent their own, better technologies. And between China and the US I know who I'd bet on for long term planning.

    2. iron Silver badge

      Re: Red Flag

      Because the Intel CPUs they contain, not to mention many other parts, aren't from the USA at all.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    China could up the prices for rare earth products to compensate for the losses. It'll take ages before the US wil have its mining back up to that level (even though environmental issues are no longer a worry as Trump has neutered the EPA), and as soon as they have just dump the prices because there's no way they can compete with the US cost of labour (certainly not now they booted out all the illegals they could exploit for low wages).

    If China didn't play the long game it could have thrown a large wrench in the mechanics already - the US really doesn't seem to realise how they have ended up on the sharp edge on the wedge with Trump.

    1. Chris G Silver badge

      I suspect China is playing the long game because it gives them more time to get other countries involved in chucking out the dollar and using national currencies for trade and helping to establish the petroyenrouble.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Currently on the Russian deal list:

        China - food, gas, fork of Sailfish OS

        India - trade in the items Trump is about to sanction, potential S-400

        Iran - oil

        Venezuela - oil

        Turkey - S-400

        Syria - S-300

        EU - gas

        Currently on the Chinese deal list:

        Many African countries

        Chile

        Potential future partners

        Mexico.

    2. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

      "China could up the prices for rare earth products to compensate for the losses. It'll take ages before the US wil have its mining back up to that level"

      The US imports 80% of it's rare earth product from China. The one and only existing US rare earth mine exports almost all of its ore to China for processing. Opening up more US rare earth mines or buying ore from other non-Chinese sources is the easy bit. Building the processing plant will take years, as would ramping up production in those few countries who do the processing at relatively small scale. And I doubt those countries would invest millions in ramping up production when the trade spat could potentially be over before they come on line.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        I'm guessing the Chinese are saving that one for closer to the 2020 election..

  4. Anonymous South African Coward Silver badge

    Queen (the band) should do an 'Interesting Times' song to the tune of 'We will rock you'...

  5. hairydog

    Ten million flies can't be wrong.

    No, I'm sure that Huawei notebook sales are not huge in the UK, but my goodness they are good.

    I am really impressed by my Matebook Pro - it is seriously excellent. Way better than the Macbook and Surface market-leaders.

    Sometimes the best products are not the best sellers.

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