back to article Ex-student, 52, suing university for AU$3m after PhD rejection destroyed 'sex drive'

"Not tonight, love." We've all been there – sometimes life throws you a curveball and the ensuing despondency firmly shelves making the beast with two backs for a while. In the case of 52-year-old Kuldeep Mann, it was failing to get on a PhD course at James Cook University in Queensland that demolished his sex drive. At least …

  1. A K Stiles
    Joke

    Without legal aid

    Will he be standing up for himself?

    I don't think anything is going to come of this.

    1. FireBurn

      Re: Without legal aid

      **cum

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Can I sue my ex?

    For destroying mine?

  3. Kubla Cant Silver badge

    What a wanker!

    Then again... maybe not.

    1. kain preacher Silver badge

      Re: What a wanker!

      I think that's the issue . After being rejected not even his hand wanted him .

  4. ForthIsNotDead
    Coffee/keyboard

    New keyboard!

    "[...] and the ensuing despondency firmly shelves making the beast with two backs for a while"

    "Hi. Is that IT? Sorry, I need a new keyboard, I just spat a gob full of coffee over this one."

    1. jake Silver badge

      Re: New keyboard!

      It's not as if you weren't warned. This is Bootnotes, after all.

      Request for a new keybr0ad denied.

  5. Blockchain commentard Silver badge
    Boffin

    Bet his partner will stay with Mr Floppy if he wins anything near the 3 mil.

    1. John 104

      3.14. FTFY.

      1. hplasm Silver badge
        Happy

        FTFY

        Pi $

  6. Joe W Silver badge

    Entitled...

    The problem when students are customers.

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Interesting...

    An Australian using their lack of education as a contraceptive rather than their personality...

    1. kain preacher Silver badge

      Re: Interesting...

      An Australian using their lack of education as a contraceptive rather than their personality...

      If he was here in Yankee land neither would be an excuse for him not getting laid.

  8. Dr Who

    Social Sciences - complete and utter Kant

    After he'd worked his way through Marx and Engels followed by a course of Durkheim with a finale of Max Weber's famous nail biter "The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism", it's little wonder his mojo has left him. Case dismissed.

  9. Steve Todd

    Hmm, his grasp of the English language ...

    doesn't make him sound like PhD material.

    Unless the University promised (implied or in writing) that the payment guaranteed him a PhD then I don't think he has a case.

    1. VikiAi Silver badge
      Headmaster

      Re: Hmm, his grasp of the English language ...

      Australian universities require (or are supposed to require, lately some have been doing /very/ dubious things in that regard) a certain level of English proficiency, but not fluency - enough to be clear and unambiguous within your chosen field is (I think fairly) considered sufficient. Whether this applies to this individual is difficult to say on the info given.

      Also, while Bootnotes has singled out the sex-drive comment (as bootnotes is chartered to do, and he is certainly being a drama-boss about it, so I can't fault them), the overall merit of his case might depend on if the university in question is one of the above-mentioned ones that have been caught side-stepping (their own!) English proficiency standards and generally over-promising what they can do for overseas students.

      https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-06/universities-lowering-english-standards/11063626

      https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-07/emails-show-academics-concerns-over-students/11073166

  10. chivo243 Silver badge
    Coat

    little sour grapes?

    First with not passing his courses, second with no intercourses with his partner...

  11. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Boomer SJW = Facepalm

    "The 7/11 staffer said he paid AU$20,000 and studied two subjects to get on the

    Social Sciences PhD in 2015, but claimed he was accused of plagiarism and told he wasn't "up to the mark""

    I'm sorry but the Bot that comes up with these stories is hilarious ...... .wait wot??

    Man he's almost my age, what a putz.

  12. Mike Moyle Silver badge

    "Melbourne Man"

    Is that the antipodean version of "Florida Man"?

  13. John 104

    To get the PHD you have to have your BS. So, he has a BS and works at 7/11?

    1. Long John Brass Silver badge

      To get the PHD you have to have your BS. So, he has a BS and works at 7/11?

      Worse looks like he has a BA (Bachelor of Arts/Bugger All). Just how bad do you have to be to fail Lesbian Dance Therapy(Social Sciences)?

      1. wayward4now
        Paris Hilton

        " To get the PHD you have to have your BS. So, he has a BS and works at 7/11?"

        "Worse looks like he has a BA (Bachelor of Arts/Bugger All). Just how bad do you have to be to fail Lesbian Dance Therapy(Social Sciences)?"

        I bet if he appeared in court dressed like Shirley Temple he could make a case for discrimination and win.

      2. Moosh
        Boffin

        BAs get an unfair rap because of the number of businesses (this is what universities ultimately are) fronting "bait" degrees for hipster idiots.

        In reality BA can cover subjects including History, Psychology, English Literature, Economics, Political Science, Anthropology, Archaeology, et al..

    2. david 12 Bronze badge

      The whole point of the bridging course is to bring you up to "standard" for entry to post-graduate studies. If it hasn't done that, he's been ripped off.

      I've got no sympathy for scammy universities that charge real money for useless qualifications.

      1. DavCrav Silver badge

        "If it hasn't done that, he's been ripped off."

        You do actually have to pass the bridging qualification.

        1. VikiAi Silver badge
          Boffin

          As noted in one of my replies above (with relevant links), there has been issues lately with Australian universities determined to trash Australia's traditional very high international reputation in the tertiary education field, in the name of a quick short-term buck.

          Maybe he was genuinely misled as to what the course was offering, and/or not provided sufficient support to pass even with reasonable effort on his part (which has also been strongly suggested, even from academics within certain universities).

          Maybe he is just a crappy student who expected a pay-for-pass degree (the DEFINITELY do exit).

          Courts will have to decide that one.

  14. Scott 29

    Rhymes with Niagara

    There's a little blue pill that will work for his spousal support.

  15. chivo243 Silver badge
    Meh

    Over 50

    And he's saying his failed PHD led to his other HD failures? If I were the judge, I'd make him submit to a full medical battery (strip naked and get on the probulator) to determine if there may be a lifestyle related issue. Don't most PHD candidates sit on their ass all day? I dislike the courts as much as the next guy, but in this case, due diligence is required.

    1. Nolveys Silver badge
      Gimp

      Re: Over 50

      Cystoscopy and prostate biopsy stat!

    2. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

      Re: Over 50

      Don't most PHD candidates sit on their ass all day?

      I don't know about Australia, but not in the US. Of the hundreds of PhD students and candidates1 I've known, none were sufficiently independently wealthy to avoid working during their programs. Most have teaching jobs, and if your teaching doesn't involve a fair bit of moving about, You're Doing It Wrong. (And, frankly, on most US university campuses, you'll do a good bit of walking just getting between the various places you need to be.)

      And, of course, in many PhD programs research involves something more physically strenuous than reading and writing (not that those can't burn many a calorie). Even in a text-intensive field like rhet-comp I've known plenty of PhDs who did dissertation research that involved a good bit of physical activity.

      Now, if your field of study is riding donkeys...

      1In the US system, you're a PhD student once you're admitted to a PhD program. You don't become a PhD candidate until you've completed coursework and passed your comprehensive examinations. Candidates file (and, depending on the program, defend) a prospectus, do research, write a dissertation, defend it, and file it; then they're granted the degree.

      1. VikiAi Silver badge

        Re: Over 50

        It is like that, at least in the Aust. University I work at. It is a small, regional, but top-international-ranked one, so I can't speak for PhDs in other Aust. Unis.

        Also, we don't have many asses here. We do mostly have arses, though!

        1. jake Silver badge

          Re: Over 50

          But do they teach why Bottom was an Ass? Or is the Bard of Avon frowned upon as being too bawdy these days?

  16. Diogenes

    Rejected from social sciences AND JCU, wow no wonder hiz manhood is reecting him.

  17. Mike Lewis

    Fortunately,

    Mine is backed up.

    1. jake Silver badge

      Re: Fortunately,

      A friend backed his stuff up. It was created with Friend1.0 wetware. Unfortunately, he's now running Friend365, and trying to restore his stuff returns nothing but error messages ... on the rare occasion that Friend365 is up, that is.

      More reasons that us UNIX are happier than the marketards FUD would suggest ... Our stuff is always up, and restoring old backups is no problem whatsoever.

  18. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    even 3+ million in the Aussie version of the dollar will buy a lot of little blue pills.

  19. Christoph Silver badge

    Did he expect to graduate summa cum laude?

    1. IceC0ld Silver badge

      more of a "in summer, cum loudly" ........................

  20. FozzyBear Silver badge

    but claimed he was accused of plagiarism and told he wasn't "up to the mark".

    Wondering if being accused of plagiarism has the same "seriousness" as it did back in my day ?

    He's Linkedin profile is an interesting read

    "I thrive in a high-pressure environment, enjoy the challenges of meeting deadlines and managing a team, and am comfortable researching, writing and editing on a wide range of topics.". I guess he can't say that anymore.

    Want a bigger laugh, check the "university" reviews , a majority of which are related to the student food centre.

    I'm starting to think that the only original work he has composed is his online profiles and the law suit

    1. lglethal Silver badge
      Go

      OK its 16 years ago now, but during my bachelor degree I knew 2 girls that were kicked out of the Uni (a different Aussie uni) for plagarism.

      I also saw during my masters in the UK, people getting a zero on assignments for "failing to properly reference quotes", so not so much plagarism but forgetting to appropriately attribute info. They also tended to receive warnings that if they did it agian that the next time would be a plagarism charge and probable dismissal from the Uni.

      So at least in the 3 universities I've been through, Plagarism has been taken very seriously.

      1. VikiAi Silver badge
        Headmaster

        Yep. It is still serious.

        Generally first offense here will (or at least should) get you an assignment fail and referral to support. After that it gets severe.

    2. Steevee

      I'm doing my Masters right now with the OU, and plagiarism is still considered a big no-no. With the advent of the internet, and advances in other computing technologies, they actually have the capability to map your work against almost everything else, just to see if you have claimed someone else's idea as your own.

      1. chivo243 Silver badge

        Turnit in dot com and their ilk make good Somalians off of educational institutions. Glad my last educational paper was submitted before the interwebs had grown past a few well off institutes..

      2. werdsmith Silver badge

        There are software tools and services available that do the plagiarism check and the unis all use them.

        Still worry about the enough chimps with enough typewriters theory.

  21. Maelstorm
    Trollface

    Rosey Palm?

    There's a pill for that. It's called Viagra. There are also some free pr0n sites that will help with it too (*cough*xnxx*cough*pornhub*cough*redtube*cough*). After all, he should be getting plenty of action with Rosey Palm and her five sisters.

  22. John H Woods

    The whole point of a PhD ...

    ... is that it's original research. Doesn't have to be that mind-blowing, but it does have to be your own. Either the accusation of plagiarism is totally unjustified (in which case he should address that) or the award of a PhD would be.

    1. Dr Dan Holdsworth Silver badge

      Re: The whole point of a PhD ...

      It is possible to get a PhD without actually having completed what you set out to do; I should know since I did just that. It is also possible to get a PhD with original research that is entirely negative, on the lines of "I tried this, and turns out this isn't the case" sort of thing.

      The point is, it has to be original, publishable research and the best way to demonstrate this is to publish your research in a proper, peer-reviewed journal. The research doesn't have to be good, or prove anything useful, or indeed demonstrate anything other than that the author's methods are complete bunk (and yes, papers of this level of direness have even been published in Nature journal). It just has to be original research.

      1. VonDutch

        Re: The whole point of a PhD ...

        ^This

        An original, significant contribution to knowledge.

        Plenty of PhD colleagues that got to the end of 3 years and had stacks and stacks of results that showed that something doesn't work, but have still improved understanding of a topic.

        There's a good movement to have research papers that document test methods that don't work (but are theoretically sound) because people don't normally talk about that part. Helps prevent a dozen groups working in the same field all trying the same wrong things wasting time and money.

  23. RobertLongshaft

    Its the same in the UK - the ISIS child bride can get legal aid after she worked as an enforcer and picked out individuals to be murdered by the caliphate but the victims of the Manchester bombing or the London Bridge attacks are not entitled to legal aid.

    Clown world we live in, HONK HONK

  24. Muppet Boss
    Facepalm

    2TB sex drive?

    The title, I somehow imagined his whole smut collection was destroyed by uni... Unforgivable!

  25. dr john

    So he tried to get the entry qualifications for the PhD course, got caught cheating, and didn't get in - that is normal.

    He clearly thinks he can just turn up, pay a fee and get in - perhaps he had heard of how rich or famous Americans get their kids into university before the recent cases got well publicised. Sorry, but that's not how it works.

    1. FozzyBear Silver badge
      IT Angle

      Again, back in my day pay the very ugly rumour was that you could basically pay for a degree from a lot of Indian universities. No skill or knowledge required, just a big enough cheque book. The more I am reading on this story, the more I suspect he is one that has taken advantage of this.

      The big question he has yet to answer is that with all of his "years of experience" in Journalism, why a 7/11 Clerk since arriving in Australia Australia has a large Indian Community and a number of independent newspapers.

  26. Muscleguy Silver badge

    An oldster writes

    Ahem, I am 53 and a half and thanks in no small part to a life spent exercising often, drinking very moderately and eating properly I can announce to the world and womenfolk in particular that I am in FULL working order. No rhomboid blue pills needed for me

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