back to article Holy high street, Sainsbury's! Have you forgotten Bezos' bunch are the competition?

Perceived wisdom in the enterprise tech world is that the future of IT is in hybrid cloud – mixing on-premises infrastructure and public cloud resources – but AWS was still preaching the gospel of total and utter cloudification at its gabfest in London on Wednesday. The public cloud juggernaut hauled out one of its largest UK …

  1. Semtex451 Silver badge
    Headmaster

    Perceived wisdom?

    I think you might mean 'received' wisdom

  2. osakajin

    Premium economy. Coffe thru nose.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Yes, 'Premium economy'...

      Isn't that just marketing-speak for 'a little bit shit and now overpriced'?

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Premium economy allows the customer to continue to feel superior to the riffraff around them while being treated in exactly the same way.

        Sorry, I meant treated in exactly the same way in the "premium economy area".

    2. Korev Silver badge
      Joke

      It does keep the Riffraff out of Waitrose...

  3. Steve K Silver badge
    Pirate

    Amazon to buy Sainsbury's......?

    Hmmmm. Sainsbury's relaxed about AWS hosting - therefore Amazon to buy Sainsbury's to supplement AWS Fresh following blocking of Asda merger.....?

    You heard it here first....;-)

    1. Rob Davis

      Re: Amazon to buy Sainsbury's......?

      Indeed. And with Argos (part of the Sainsbury's group) providing click and collect points for eBay purchases, this could be an interesting move with regards to fulfillment of Amazon's orders.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Sainsburys?

    As in "We're in the money", as reported a week or two ago?

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/01/sainsbury-ceo-caught-singing-were-in-the-money-on-a-hot-mic.html

    How's that working out for the folks in the Boardroom now?

    I used to like my two nearby Sainsburys, and having moved to a different part of the world, sometimes I'd still prefer to have one closer than an hour's drive away, rather than the inevitably unavoidable Tescos and such.

    But the odds of Sainsburys surviving seem to be decreasing steadily under the present Sainsbury management.

    "Amazon to buy Sainsbury's to supplement AWS Fresh "

    Whatever happened to the deal between AMazon Fresh, and Booths Supermarkets ("Preston not Heston")?

    1. Steve K Silver badge

      Re: Sainsburys?

      As in "We're in the money", as reported a week or two ago?

      https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/01/sainsbury-ceo-caught-singing-were-in-the-money-on-a-hot-mic.html

      That's from May 2018, not 2019....

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Sainsburys: "we're in the money is so 2018"

        Correct, CNBC and others reported the Sainsbury CEO's premature enthusiasm in 2018 when it happened. But the first time many people (including me) heard of it was quite recently, when it started popping up in and around media coverage of the collapse of the Sainsburys/Asda deal. e.g.

        https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-6960481/Sainsbury-boss-Mike-Coupe-faces-axe-watchdog-kills-12bn-Asda-merger.html (25 April 2019)

        "Sainsbury's boss Mike Coupe is fighting for his job after the collapse of the supermarket's £12billion merger with Asda.

        The 58-year-old was the mastermind of the tie-up and laboured on it for two years before the plans were made public.

        He was caught singing 42nd Street tune We're In The Money between television interviews when it was finally announced a year ago."

  5. Korev Silver badge
    WTF?

    In total, the company migrated more than 7TB of data into the cloud.

    Is that all?

    1. werdsmith Silver badge

      Is that all?

      I thought that too. I'm currently watching 25TB go into cloud for one project.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Is that all?

        7TB? Peanuts! My porn stash really puts that to shame!*

        * Ahem... just getting prepared for the UK proof of age porn block, of course!

  6. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    " Outposts – servers designed by AWS to be housed in on-premises data centres"

    And so the circle is completed. Computing in customer's premises and (presumably) a subscription to the vendor to keep it running. Give it another few years and somebody will invent Personal Computing. By using Personal Computing user departments will be able to free themselves of the mainframe cloud in the data centre.

    1. Steve K Silver badge

      Outsource premises

      AWS will then be able to divest themselves of their Data Centres and host all AWS servers/services on customer premises...…

      GOTO 1

      PROFIT

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "This was effectively taking a WebSphere e-commerce monolith with an Oracle RAC database, and moving it, and modularising it, and putting it into AWS,"

    Clearly the potential pain of using a competitors product is less than using traditional IT providers. I'm sure Sainsburys considered which of the companies business practices was most likely to put them out of business and choose AWS. Quelle surprise..

  8. deive

    "and now we have a fully fledged cloud-native-ish service" - this has to be up their for the pointless sentences award - you prefix something with "fully fledged" if it is complete, but you suffix something with "-sh" to say it's not fully complete.

    Marketing and PR speak p*sses me off. Sorry.

    Plus, if you are moving away from an Oracle DB you are going to same money on costs, doesn't matter if you move to "the cloud" or any other server...

  9. Will Godfrey Silver badge
    Meh

    They deserve each other

    Sainsbury's used to be good, but in recent years they've become expensive, and the quality has gone down.

    I was quite surprised recently, when I dropped into Asda, and everything seemed to be cheaper and at the same time better quality.

    1. Rob Davis

      Re: They deserve each other

      All Sainsbury's own brand meats have the British Farm Assured logo as far as I can tell when last looked.

      Same can't be said of Asda, where some poultry comes from outside the EU, for example the far East. It's not going to harm you but the quality and farming practices might not have the same ethics or standards as the EU or UK. Similarly sourced items have been on sale at Tesco.

      Also Sainsbury's was among the few retailers not caught up in the beef / horse meat scandal a few years ago. Similarly, unlikely to cause harm but betrayal of trust for those involved.

      Apart from that, many items at Asda keenly priced. However fruit and veg variety seems limited, compared with my local fruit and veg man - more of these please rather than the lame vape shops and rubbish quality mobile phone case shops, please.

      1. Muscleguy Silver badge

        Re: They deserve each other

        And just to inject some balance the chicken from the Coop can be cooked without weeping lots of watery brine which has to be boiled off before it will fry and brown. That includes Sainsbury's chook.

        I completely stopped buying chicken from Sainsbury's (closest large supermarket, I can walk there) when I discovered that. I object to paying through the nose for salt water for goods sold by weight. Think about it.

        I have a Coop whole chook in the fridge right now, short date so got for a shade over £3. Several day's nosh there. I think I'll insert some curry paste under the skin of the breasts and legs and stuff it with a spiced stuffing made from buckwheat and millet (I'm gluten free since 1990 long before the modern fadism).

  10. Ken Hagan Gold badge

    "Moving to the cloud has also helped Sainsbury's into the warm infinity-looped embrace of DevOps. The company has moved from five to six releases per year to multiple releases per day, said the CIO."

    S'funny. We were saying just the other day how their website keeps changing from week to week now and so we can never find anything and features that used to work just don't anymore. I wonder if there is a connection...

    1. Muscleguy Silver badge

      Every time i go there they print out vouchers for their online site. Asda are much cheaper online though you have to be careful. I still haven't found tins/cartons of chopped tomatoes cheaper than Sainsbury's own brand.

      Most places have stuff that it is relatively expensive. You have to be careful that way in Iceland for eg. Cheap for some things but not others.

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