Repeat that when installing the Windows Subsystem for Linux as well.
There were nods to the past and future at Microsoft's Seattle Build event as the company teased upcoming features for its latest crack at a browser that people might want to use. It lives! Internet Explorer compatibility in Edge... almost Leaving Internet Explorer festering in Windows 10 as the original Edge was launched did …
I think you're in the wrong thread, son.
Nevertheless, even in the highly unlikely scenario where MS ousts Chrome with Edge - what's the difference for the end users? That would take many years to accomplish and Google wouldn't be nearly as complacent as they are these days. It's not like this is MS crushing poor Netscape - Google can pour unlimited money to keep Chrome at its top position.
I wonder if this is just spinning up IE as a hidden process in the background and displaying the tab in Edge as opposed to actually emulating the IE functions in the Chromium engine?
It might encourage a few enterprises with legacy intranet sites to switch to using Edge but I think Microsoft still have a LONG way to go to encourage people to use Edge over Chrome/FF/Vivlali etc unless they need the IE mode.
"It might encourage a few enterprises with legacy intranet sites to switch to using Edge"
This is what most enterprises already do. Enterprise Mode already exists in Edge, but launches a separate IE Window.
The only difference here is that IE will appear within the Edge browser as a new tab rather than as a separate window.
I'm sorry, that is a concept that I simply do not understand. How is it that a tracker that is following my Internet activity and browsing habits not be deemed malicious ? My life is private, no one should have the right to track me without a warrant simply because they have the means to do so.
I think you are being revisionist. At the time of IE6 Web Standards weren't really a thing - you had the IE way or the Netscape way and they had some degree of overlap. Web Standards were embryonic and intitally at least IE6 was more compliant than Netscape.
After that of course Web Standards started to become a more concrete concern and Microsoft dropped the ball spectacularly - I'm not going to defend that.
IE4 release September 1997
IE6 release August 27, 2001.
Document Object Model Specification W3C Working Draft 09-Oct-1997
Document Object Model (DOM) Level 1 Specification Version 1.0 W3C Recommendation 1 October, 1998.
Document Object Model (DOM) Level 2 Core Specification Version 1.0 W3C Recommendation 13 November, 2000
Document Object Model (DOM) Level 2 HTML Specification Version 1.0 W3C Proposed Recommendation 27 September, 2000
Document Object Model (DOM) Level 2 HTML Specification Version 1.0 W3C Working Draft 13 November, 2000
Document Object Model (DOM) Level 2 HTML Specification Version 1.0 W3C Candidate Recommendation 05 June 2002
Document Object Model (DOM) Level 2 HTML Specification Version 1.0 W3C Proposed Recommendation 08 November 2002
Document Object Model (DOM) Level 2 HTML Specification Version 1.0 W3C Recommendation 09 January 2003
The damage was done by Internet Explorer 4, which introduced its DOM and really cemented Internet Explorer's dominance.
By Internet Explorer 6, standardization was already on its way.
DOM Level 2 introduced document.getElementById. Microsoft added it to Internet Explorer 5.5, but added in a way that fell back to matching names, allowing web developers to make pages with missing ids that worked only on Internet Explorer.
Or the consumer lost.
Hopefully Firefox will keep on trucking. Still my favourite browser, as I prefer the old UI with menus.
But as with MS of old, complacency has set in at Google - and they could suffer similar problems as MS did, back in the day.
The EU may hit them with the fine stick for the dodgy way they got Chrome to the top of the market share list - far dodgier than MS giving it away free - as Google were effectively using spyware tactics to get it onto peoples' systems - coming as an add-on install to Flash and Acrobat Reader (which then made itself default browser). Or they may so blot their privacy copybook that they become a byword for dodginess, as is happening to Facebook.
Indeed, and I seem to recall having an add on probably 10 years ago on Firefox that spun up IE in a tab, for sites that only ran with that. It's certainly not an original idea, surprised they didn't think of that in Edge before, but instead forced people to actually use a different browser.
..why wouldn't everyone just continue to use Chrome? Microsoft keeps making up features that no one asked for or cares about. Sometimes I think the only reason some of their more absurd choices get any play is that young-uns entering the workforce have not experienced logical, consistent UIs, and as such don't know any different.
"why wouldn't everyone just continue to use Chrome? "
The same question occurred to me. What I was hoping for was basically Chrome inside a better UI (I can't stand Chrome because of the UI). Something a bit like Vivaldi but a little better. But what exists at the moment is just Chrome. The UI is 90% the same. It is a smidge faster but that's about all.
I can't see people opting to use it unless MS can find a feature or incorporate all the nice features from Edge (setting aside tabs, pen based note taking, the really nice history/favs/dl menu, etc.)
Some of us don’t let Google infect our lives and machines or spy and steal data. The browser is irrelevant, I chose “not Chrome”. I switch between Firefox and Edge depending on mood but will never use Chrome.
It’s not that I have something to hide, I just don’t have anything I want them to see.
" I switch between Firefox and Edge depending on mood but will never use Chrome."
I use Brave / Vivaldi and Edge. I try each every now and then to see what I prefer. 90% of the time it's Edge. I like the current Edge and don't want it taken away.... (Except for Dynamics - why MS do some screens only work in CHROME????)
At the very least, because a new Windows computer needs something to download Chrome with.
Now, some may decide they don't need to since they'll already have the same engine and the choice to download Chrome will be about "who would you rather have spying on you?"
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Probably better qualified to comment here than you. Better qualified in general I would suspect.
We run 4 browsers (Edge, FF, IE, Chrome - some may be running Opera?) here due to incompatibilities on different apps ( oh yes - and FF can bypass the company proxy )
I tend to stick with FF & Edge. Chrome is only for sites that have video ( the video card on my Dell is pre-windows 10 and videos only show as a green screen on anything other than Chrome )
Of more interest to end users is the arrival of extra privacy options in Edge, although the function remains somewhat of a moving target, with even the names of the Privacy levels up for grabs as development continues. . .
HA!, now if Microsoft would extend their newly found love of "PRIVACY" to the entire Windows 10 OS, now THAT would be something to brag about.
As far as I'm concerned, I don't care if they preach about privacy and security ad nauseamm, they will never gain the browser superiority they desperately crave. Here's hoping someone figures out someday how to block all of the Windows 10 data slurping. I'm still running Windows 7 at home and it's gonna kill me to have to finally break down and use Win10 when MS kills off 7 entirely.
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